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re: LED light went out after 1 year

Posted on 1/21/20 at 9:17 pm to
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
13014 posts
Posted on 1/21/20 at 9:17 pm to
I bought some after king fricknuts said that’s all I could buy. When they burned out after 6 months I asked all my liberal friends for advice and all they could offer was a litany of excuses as to why it was all my fault.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30138 posts
Posted on 1/21/20 at 10:06 pm to
all you have to do is bring it back to the store with your receipt and return it in its original packaging
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6229 posts
Posted on 1/21/20 at 10:15 pm to
You're melting over light bulbs?
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162258 posts
Posted on 1/21/20 at 10:17 pm to
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They don't heat up.

That's another advantage

Helps keep the house cooler without having to blast the AC as much
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 1/21/20 at 10:33 pm to
I slowly started using CFLs soon after the spiral lights became available about 20 years ago, and started buying LEDs exclusively several years before it became hard to find incandescents.

I have replaced exactly two non-working bulbs. I am still using SEVERAL pre-2000 spiral CFL bulbs.

Sounds like you purchased a cheap PoS product.
This post was edited on 1/21/20 at 10:46 pm
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
16640 posts
Posted on 1/21/20 at 10:43 pm to
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They don't heat up.


The parts that make them work do heat up, and that's why they die early. Also, because of the lower power factor, mass use of LEDs will just mean power plants have to pump out more heat to make up for the wasted power. Plus LEDs create more landfill mass and are more energy/materials intensive to make in the first place.


And morons think they are doing the planet a favor...
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 1/21/20 at 10:51 pm to
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Yeah, they don't perform as advertised by a long shot.


Nothing does.
Its all mostly modernized snake oil.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21925 posts
Posted on 1/21/20 at 10:56 pm to
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I have replaced exactly two non-working bulbs. I am still using SEVERAL pre-2000 spiral CFL bulbs.


You’re using SEVERAL 20 year old bulbs when the technology claims a 6,000 to 8,000 hour life?

Ok.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 1/21/20 at 10:59 pm to
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You’re using SEVERAL 20 year old bulbs when the technology claims a 6,000 to 8,000 hour life?

Ok.
They are now in closets and other places that do not see much use ... probably less than an hour per week. I moved the older tech to less-used locations as I purchased newer tech, mostly because the color temperature of the light was better with the newer tech and for the “instant on.”. Few lights around my house see more than 3-4 hours of use per day, because. I have a lot of windows and natural light.

I would note that several of the early CFLs got broken, because the spirals were exposed. None have broken in the newer CFLs thatt enclosed the spirals in a globe. The former was a poor design. Of course, CFL has now largely been phased-out anyway.

This post was edited on 1/21/20 at 11:09 pm
Posted by yatesdog38
in your head rent free
Member since Sep 2013
12737 posts
Posted on 1/21/20 at 10:59 pm to
Maybe stop growing tomatoes indoors and use sunlight.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 1/21/20 at 11:01 pm to
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I have replaced exactly two non-working bulbs. I am still using SEVERAL pre-2000 spiral CFL bulbs.


Yea they last 20 years when you don’t turn them on because you like to frick your boyfriend in the dark

Have a nice day Hank!

Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
16640 posts
Posted on 1/21/20 at 11:01 pm to
If they are rarely turned off they can last much longer. Like LEDs they will degrade in luminosity over time though.
Posted by FrankDrebin
The Port o'Potty
Member since Sep 2018
957 posts
Posted on 1/21/20 at 11:43 pm to
The LED’s themselves can last as long as the manufacturers claim.

The dirty little secret is that the “drivers” that are needed to make them work don’t last any longer than any other option the shelf.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28719 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 12:54 am to
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Oh they will, and long before the cost is recuperated compared to a conventional lightbulb.
Doubtful. Most LED bulbs recoup their cost in electricity savings in less than a year with typical usage. Ex. The most expensive LED 'can' bulbs I can find on Amazon right now are some dimmable 9W (65W equiv) Phillips ones for $7/bulb. For comparison, most LED can bulbs are in the $3 range, but I'm going high cost and low output equivalent to tilt this heavily in favor of incandescent. Each bulb will save 56Wh per hour of use, so let's round down to 50Wh per hour. At typical LA energy rates, that's a savings of half a cent per hour. With typical usage of 2 hours per day, that's 1 cent per day, or about tree fiddy per year. This worst case scenario bulb (that I could find) will recoup its cost in about 2 years (or faster if you use them more). As I mentioned, most bulbs are half the price, and so will recoup in a year.

And that's to recoup the entire cost of the bulb, not only the difference in cost from an incandescent.

You also save in cooling costs.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28719 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 12:59 am to
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I bought some after king fricknuts said that’s all I could buy. When they burned out after 6 months I asked all my liberal friends for advice and all they could offer was a litany of excuses as to why it was all my fault.
There is absolutely no way you've had a substantial number of LED bulbs go out after 6 months. Unless you got a bad batch that you should have gotten a refund for, that shite just doesn't happen.

I have no fewer than 80 LED bulbs of various types around my house. Some of them are on 24/7, some of them stay on all night, but most are used for roughly 1-4 hours per day. We have lived here just over a year, and I have had to change exactly 2 of them.

You're bitching just to bitch.
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
22308 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 1:03 am to
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I thought these things were supposed to last 20 years?


Depends on the brand. Some are great and will last ten years or more. Most of them are cheap Chinese crap.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28719 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 1:12 am to
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The parts that make them work do heat up, and that's why they die early. Also, because of the lower power factor, mass use of LEDs will just mean power plants have to pump out more heat to make up for the wasted power. Plus LEDs create more landfill mass and are more energy/materials intensive to make in the first place.


And morons think they are doing the planet a favor...


WTfrick kind of bullshite propaganda do you consume?!

How in the hell is using less energy worse for the grid and power plants?

And how are LEDs creating more landfill mass if they last 5+ times as long?

And as for the energy and material inputs to make them, I have some information for you that may come as a shock - both energy and materials cost money. It also happens that most items sell for more than they cost to make. Otherwise, well, you know. So if someone ever gives you some bullshite about such and such is "more energy/material intensive" to build, maybe ask them "by how much?" And then realize you can just look at the price and get a ballpark figure for yourself. That brings us back to the total lifetime costs to buy and operate, and payback time, which are heavily in favor of LEDs.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162258 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 1:21 am to
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How in the hell is using less energy worse for the grid and power plants?


I'm sure it makes sense in moron world

But if the load draws less power then it can't possibly be
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And how are LEDs creating more landfill mass if they last 5+ times as long?


Again, not something that's even remotely possible

Clames is a complete moron
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
16640 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 1:22 am to
That simpleton-level math only works if the LED bulb actually lasts a year, in many cases they don't because they are more sensitive to power quality and heat. Also, a 9W LED consumes closer to 12W in actual usage and that can increase slightly as the bulb ages. Most incandescents don't consume the power they are rated for. Long story short, in the real world and under real world conditions, LEDs don't provide the savings promised and you, like most consumers, have never actually tested the claims. Easier to just believe what the shiny packaging tells you and never mind the *.
Posted by Srobi14
South Florida
Member since Aug 2014
3518 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 1:23 am to
LED light bulbs are pretty new technology. The earlier gen ones were terrible but they have definitely gotten a lot better just over the last couple years. The best thing about them is the low load it puts on circuits to light room. Just buy a new one, they're cheaper now and chances are it will last longer.
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