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re: I Am Anti-Abortion, But Pro-Choice

Posted on 6/26/22 at 9:25 am to
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
18206 posts
Posted on 6/26/22 at 9:25 am to
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I disagree with the SCOTUS holding


So you do not believe, AT ALL, in the 10th Amendment to the U S Constitution or women are smart enough to understand the right to an abortion is determined by the state they live in.

Yep, the dream of a Central Gooberment based in DC is dying!!
This post was edited on 6/26/22 at 10:09 am
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
16225 posts
Posted on 6/26/22 at 9:35 am to
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We all have an inherent, God-given right to autonomy

Yet a person that can move its fingers, suck it's own thumb, and feel pain doesn't have that same God-given right? Because it has now been proven that most healthy fetuses can even feel pain by week 15, which is the time frame of the Mississippi law that was being challenged. Planned Parenthood v. Casey stated that all states had to allow abortions up to week 24.

You state believe we all have an inherent, God-given right to autonomy, but obviously by "we" you only mean some.
This post was edited on 6/26/22 at 9:36 am
Posted by novabill
Crossville, TN
Member since Sep 2005
10737 posts
Posted on 6/26/22 at 9:43 am to
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I support an individual’s right to body autonomy,


Murder, assault, robbery are all illegal and those are are completed by way of the body
Posted by Marquesa
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2020
1853 posts
Posted on 6/26/22 at 10:03 am to
I support body autonomy too - but what is the responsibility of the medical professionals performing the abortion. It's not their body they are tearing limb from limb.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125739 posts
Posted on 6/26/22 at 10:15 am to
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whether it comes to vaccines or abortion


What does the baby choose?
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14680 posts
Posted on 6/26/22 at 10:26 am to
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I find it puzzling so many ‘conservatives’ disagree and actually want the government, at any level, to infringe on these inherent rights.


I find it puzzling that ‘conservatives’ like you have no problem bestowing rights upon unborn animals, but completely oppose or dismiss bestowing any of those same rights on unborn humans.

How do you feel about the murderer of a pregnant woman being charged with two murders?
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
42426 posts
Posted on 6/26/22 at 10:33 am to
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by Sulu


Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
34849 posts
Posted on 6/26/22 at 10:40 am to
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We all have an inherent, God-given right to autonomy.


Do we?
Posted by tigafan4life
Member since Dec 2006
50660 posts
Posted on 6/26/22 at 10:42 am to
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individual’s right to body autonomy,
. Cool me too. But you don’t have rights over another persons body AKA the baby in the moms body.
Posted by bayourougebengal
Member since Mar 2008
7235 posts
Posted on 6/26/22 at 10:51 am to
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infringe on these inherent rights

Abortion was never a right
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6-- the Brazos River Valley
Member since Sep 2015
30790 posts
Posted on 6/26/22 at 10:53 am to
Whatever happened to Bill Clinton's appeal to the Radical Middle, that abortion should be "safe, legal, but rare"? This is where most of America stands with this issue. Those Americans who support abortion restrictions in the event of rape or incest, for instance, are few and far between; even a vast majority of Republicans and Bible-beaters oppose restrictions in these instances.

I'm no fan of Donald Trump, but he was right when he said that this ruling on Roe v Wade issued Friday was a losing one for Republicans.
This post was edited on 6/26/22 at 2:12 pm
Posted by Shameless
Member since Jan 2017
914 posts
Posted on 6/26/22 at 10:56 am to
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Brush up on what the decision actually does. This is removing government control


Removing federal government control, obviously increasing state government control in many states as a result…
This post was edited on 6/26/22 at 10:58 am
Posted by jp4lsu
Member since Sep 2016
6359 posts
Posted on 6/26/22 at 11:00 am to
The 50 yr old Roe v Wade decision was judicial activism. They pulled it out of thin air that it is a constitutional right to have an abortion.

The current Dobbs decision was not removing the right of abortion. THey just said it is not a constitutional right and are sending it to the states. I don't understand why people think the SCOTUS took a right away. It is the states decision and the activism of SCOTUS occured 50 yrs ago.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
23723 posts
Posted on 6/26/22 at 11:01 am to
You are simply posting MSM talking points. Whatever your opinion of abortion, RvW was the epitome of judicial activism.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
35128 posts
Posted on 6/26/22 at 11:03 am to
If My bodily autonomy says I want to put my hands around another’s neck and squeeze, are you saying the government shouldn’t be able to stop me because it infringes on my rights?

Why not?

Now do abortion.
Posted by newmexicotiger
Member since Sep 2017
4107 posts
Posted on 6/26/22 at 11:13 am to
"Mr Sulu" = George Takei
I stopped reading right there.
Posted by El Segundo Guy
1-866-DHS-2-ICE
Member since Aug 2014
11446 posts
Posted on 6/26/22 at 11:17 am to
I only care about my family's health and welfare along with my bank account. That's it.

I don't care about abortion because it doesn't have a damn thing to do with me, nor will it ever.

What can effect me? Having to be financially responsible for unwanted kids. And most importantly the threat of progressives packing the court.
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
21926 posts
Posted on 6/26/22 at 11:42 am to
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I support an individual’s right to body autonomy,

Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46325 posts
Posted on 6/26/22 at 11:44 am to
You don’t have an inherent right to kill a baby. A baby is not “your body”, and is just as reliant on you for survival at the age of 2 as it is in the womb.
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
13078 posts
Posted on 6/26/22 at 11:56 am to
When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.

It is not enough in a situation of trust in the commonwealth, that a man means well to his country; it is not enough that in his single person he never did an evil act, but always voted according to his conscience, and even harangued against every design which he apprehended to be prejudicial to the interests of his country. This innoxious and ineffectual character, that seems formed upon a plan of apology and disculpation, falls miserably short of the mark of public duty. That duty demands and requires, that what is right should not only be made known, but made prevalent; that what is evil should not only be detected, but defeated. When the public man omits to put himself in a situation of doing his duty with effect, it is an omission that frustrates the purposes of his trust almost as much as if he had formally betrayed it. It is surely no very rational account of a man’s life that he has always acted right; but has taken special care to act in such a manner that his endeavours could not possibly be productive of any consequence....Edmund Burke
This post was edited on 6/26/22 at 11:57 am
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