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I Am Anti-Abortion, But Pro-Choice
Posted on 6/26/22 at 8:40 am
Posted on 6/26/22 at 8:40 am
I support an individual’s right to body autonomy, whether it comes to vaccines or abortion. We all have an inherent, God-given right to autonomy. There is no constitution or legislative body that can grant this to us.
I find it puzzling so many ‘conservatives’ disagree and actually want the government, at any level, to infringe on these inherent rights.
I disagree with the SCOTUS holding and fear this will initiate a new era of judicial activism that will come back to haunt the right.
I find it puzzling so many ‘conservatives’ disagree and actually want the government, at any level, to infringe on these inherent rights.
I disagree with the SCOTUS holding and fear this will initiate a new era of judicial activism that will come back to haunt the right.
Posted on 6/26/22 at 8:42 am to Sulu
Brush up on what the decision actually does.
This is removing government control
This is removing government control
Posted on 6/26/22 at 8:42 am to Sulu
Then you would have no problem with Dobbs.
Posted on 6/26/22 at 8:42 am to Sulu
So you are anti-unborn child rights? Got it.
Posted on 6/26/22 at 8:43 am to Sulu
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I disagree with the SCOTUS holding and fear this will initiate a new era of judicial activism that will come back to haunt the right.
The decision reversed the most egregious example of judicial activism in US history.
Posted on 6/26/22 at 8:43 am to udtiger
So it doesn’t allow states to infringe on autonomy?
Correct me where I’m wrong.
Correct me where I’m wrong.
Posted on 6/26/22 at 8:44 am to LSU-MNCBABY
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This is removing government control
or at least making it more localized
Posted on 6/26/22 at 8:44 am to Sulu
quote:Whose rights are you referencing?
to infringe on these inherent rights.
Posted on 6/26/22 at 8:45 am to Sulu
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individual’s right to body autonomy
Please define an 'individual?'
Posted on 6/26/22 at 8:45 am to Sulu
Abortion treatments should only be accepted if the mothers life is in danger, rape or incest (which Louisiana got wrong), and a few other things involving the development of the baby in the womb, like growing in tubes, instead of in the womb, and stuff like that.
Posted on 6/26/22 at 8:46 am to Sulu
Judicial activism is when justices rule to create law or change the Constitution based on personal belief or desire rather than understanding the Constitution as it was written.
The problem with your view of bodily autonomy is that it doesn’t address that we cannot do what we want with our bodies if doing so hurts others. Abortion kills another human being.
The problem with your view of bodily autonomy is that it doesn’t address that we cannot do what we want with our bodies if doing so hurts others. Abortion kills another human being.
This post was edited on 6/26/22 at 8:58 am
Posted on 6/26/22 at 8:47 am to Sulu
The right you speak of is not in the constitution and that’s exactly why the Supreme Court struck it down.
“My body, my choice” is false because if it were your body, you’d be the one that dies and not someone else.
This is just a common sense thing and the fact that you don’t understand that shows that you do not have common sense.
“My body, my choice” is false because if it were your body, you’d be the one that dies and not someone else.
This is just a common sense thing and the fact that you don’t understand that shows that you do not have common sense.
Posted on 6/26/22 at 8:49 am to Sulu
Your issue vs the right is simply that a full term fetus, unborn, has no autonomy. Others disagree with you regarding that autonomy and a vote in your state will determine the law.
Posted on 6/26/22 at 8:49 am to Sulu
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I support an individual’s right to body autonomy, whether it comes to vaccines or abortion
Abortion is not a vaccine. The 2 are not remotely like.
The act of abortion is carried out against another human being. Therefore the rights of life, liberty, etc are afforded to both lives and neither should be infringed upon.
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We all have an inherent, God-given right to autonomy.
Including the baby.
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I find it puzzling so many ‘conservatives’ disagree and actually want the government, at any level, to infringe on these inherent rights.
The ruling did not.
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fear this will initiate a new era of judicial activism
As if this was not already being done..............
Posted on 6/26/22 at 8:50 am to Sulu
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Sulu
interesting choice of name.
Posted on 6/26/22 at 8:54 am to FlexDawg
Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness are three unalienable rights the Declaration of Independence references.
But they are not the only unalienable rights we have.
Another one is the right to bear arms. The constitution does not grant this right; it simply states what is already true, that the right to bear arms cannot be infringed by the government.
I don’t need a clause in the Constitution to tell the Government can’t infringe on my life, liberty, or pursuit of happiness. I already have that right.
Any Government telling me what to do with my body, whether it’s to take a vaccine or banning abortion, is not the direction we want this country going.
This is about basic rights.
But they are not the only unalienable rights we have.
Another one is the right to bear arms. The constitution does not grant this right; it simply states what is already true, that the right to bear arms cannot be infringed by the government.
I don’t need a clause in the Constitution to tell the Government can’t infringe on my life, liberty, or pursuit of happiness. I already have that right.
Any Government telling me what to do with my body, whether it’s to take a vaccine or banning abortion, is not the direction we want this country going.
This is about basic rights.
Posted on 6/26/22 at 8:55 am to Sulu
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So it doesn’t allow states to infringe on autonomy?
Correct me where I’m wrong.
It allows people and their elected representatives to decide the issue, which is how the Constitution was designed.
Regardless of whether you think 2020 is legit, there are a substantial number of states that voted for Trump - big (or Biden - big). National policies will inevitably run contrary to the wishes of one or the other.
This allows those states to decide matters for themselves. If the population doesn't like it, they will elect people who will change it.
Posted on 6/26/22 at 8:59 am to Sulu
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Sulu
So your body has two heart beats?
When a woman is pregnant. It’s not her body and something growing inside her that is also her body. She is literally carrying another human person inside of her. To kill that person through Abortion is murder in my book and should also be reflected that way in our legal system. The rights you refer to should also apply to the person in the womb.
Posted on 6/26/22 at 9:01 am to Sulu
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Any Government telling me what to do with my body, whether it’s to take a vaccine or banning abortion, is not the direction we want this country going.
Keep that same energy as you tell the government to stop their war on drugs, as you should be able to put whatever you want into your body. Whether that drug is marijuana, cocaine or ivermectin.
If you can figure out how to have an abortion that only affects the woman’s body and leaves the body of the fetus alone, let us know.
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