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re: Egypt was a Majority Christian nation until this political crisis came in

Posted on 8/1/26 at 10:31 am to
Posted by Prodigal Son
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Posted on 8/1/26 at 10:31 am to
JTL:



Mo Jeaux:

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Awww, did I hurt your feelings, Susan? I’m sorry, sweetie. I thought I was talking to people with some semblance of an intellect who don’t have fragile egos.


Me:
Posted by PowerTool
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Posted on 8/1/26 at 10:58 am to
Your grasp of historic timelines is nonexistent.

You also ignore the fact that Egypt and Palestine were heavily Helenized for hundreds of years before Roman occupation, which itself predates the spread of Christianity.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 8/1/26 at 10:58 am to
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Yeah, like YOU got shite all figured out while bumping around during your few decades long ride on the big blue ball.

Goofball.


Low-IQ response. Did I imply that I did? No, I didn’t. You’re just another one who got your feelings hurt.
Posted by Stinger_1066
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Posted on 8/1/26 at 11:05 am to
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Christians do recognize this, but why the discussion of the negative side of Christianity 2,000 years ago as opposed to the deep slide into despair once Islam takes over as observed in modern day history.


But it is more recent than 2000 years ago.

Think of the country you live in. Christianity was being forced upon the natives as soon as the Pilgrims landed in Plymouth and up to less than 150 years ago in places like Oklahoma.
Posted by geoag58
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 8/1/26 at 11:05 am to
Muslims have proven over and over wherever they go they don't assimilate and after assuming control they persecute ALL non-Muslims. Muslims have proven they are not compatible in western society. Islam needs a reformation of its views and muslims need to assimilate or they need to get the hell out of our country.
Posted by GatorOnAnIsland
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Posted on 8/1/26 at 11:07 am to
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Christianity was being forced upon the natives



Christianity can not be forced on anyone. It can only be preached and explained. Only God can make a Christian.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 8/1/26 at 11:11 am to
Islam is a demonic plight on the world. Christians in America need to stand up to this through prayer, evangelism, and political action.

Islam isn't merely a religion but a terrorist ideology that is an enemy to the true religion and freedom everywhere.
Posted by KiwiHead
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Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 8/1/26 at 11:20 am to
We don't like to admit that Christianity can be just as invasive as Islam can be....just in different ways. Evangelical missionaries and Catholic missions are not always seen as benign by the people they are looking to "save".
Posted by Stinger_1066
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Posted on 8/1/26 at 11:35 am to
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Christianity can not be forced on anyone. It can only be preached and explained. Only God can make a Christian.


That statement applies to any attempt to forcibly convert anyone, whether it is being done by a Christian or Muslim.

The fact of the matter is, native Americans on reservations were forced, by law, to attend Christian schools. Native religious practices and languages were banned, by law, on reservations.

The "Peace Policy" of US Grant. Read up on it.

That is called "indoctrination", which is exactly how you became a Christian.

You were born into a Christian family, and Christianity was preached to you beginning the day you were born. You can conceive of no other belief system.

Posted by geoag58
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 8/1/26 at 11:38 am to
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just in different ways


The different you are talking about here is like the difference between a cradle and a coffin.

Posted by Sunnyvale
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Posted on 8/1/26 at 11:55 am to
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Don’t over-complicate it.

Throw out the people that want to put our women in bags.



Posted by Burt Reynolds
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Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 8/1/26 at 11:59 am to
Islam wouldnt be taking over if limpdicks had more kids
Posted by crazy4lsu
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Posted on 8/1/26 at 12:11 pm to
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Syria until mid 80s.


No. Syria in the 1920's had an estimated Christian population of 12%.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
47625 posts
Posted on 8/1/26 at 1:19 pm to
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That statement applies to any attempt to forcibly convert anyone, whether it is being done by a Christian or Muslim.
Not true, because we're talking about different things. Islam can produce converts through the sword because they are focused on submission to the religion, rather than a heart-change in belief. Christianity, on the other hand, teaches that the Christian religion is a faith-based religion, seeking to convert hearts, minds, and wills, not just the hands and tongues of others.

You can't actually force anyone to be a Christian for this reason, because Christianity is more than just nominal profession. It's why Christian ministers have historically focused on self examination for those who claim to be Christians to see if their hearts are longing for Christ by faith rather than being hypocrites that Jesus condemned that professed Him with their lips but denied Him with their actions. You don't typically see that within Islam.

So yes, there have been nominal Christians who have sought to convert non-Christians to the Christian religion by the sword, but that goes against what the Scriptures teach. That is an abuse of the religion, rather than something done in accordance with it.

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The fact of the matter is, native Americans on reservations were forced, by law, to attend Christian schools. Native religious practices and languages were banned, by law, on reservations.

The "Peace Policy" of US Grant. Read up on it.
Attending Christian schools is one thing, as even militant atheists like Squirrelmeister send their kids to Christian schools. The issue is about forced "conversion", and outlawing individual worship practices and beliefs, which the subsequent "code of indian offenses" did. Even so, it wasn't a forced conversion to Christianity proper as much as a limitation on what people considered anti-western culture and morality that prevented the people from assimilating. The indians weren't forced to be Christians as much as they were prevented from practicing their own religion as they wanted.

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That is called "indoctrination", which is exactly how you became a Christian

You were born into a Christian family, and Christianity was preached to you beginning the day you were born. You can conceive of no other belief system.
There is so much wrong with this way of thinking, I would hardly know where to begin. I'll say a few things, though.

1. "Indoctrination" is not how everyone becomes a Christian. Many people hear a simple message of God's love for them through Jesus during an evangelistic message and believe it to be true, and then they learn all the "doctrine" of Christianity. I've met many people who did this very thing, having not grown up in a Christian home but heard this message and then wanted to learn more. The "indoctrination" occurred after conversion. From a biblical perspective, I should note that it isn't "indoctrination" of any form that causes conversion, but a work of the Holy Spirit working through the gospel message to enable them to believe it to be true. It's a spiritual conversion rather than a mere intellectual one.

2. Indoctrination, as persuasion, exists everywhere, in every home, school, and even in the media (movies, comics, video games, news, social media, etc.). Everyone is being taught something all the time, and truth claims are proclaimed everywhere, no matter if it's religious in nature or secular. Everyone is trying to share their beliefs with others. You are doing this very thing when you come on this forum and try to convince people of the evils of religion generally or Christianity specifically, or whatever it is you are doing.

3. You can say the same exact thing about someone raised in an atheistic home, where religion is banned, or simply not tolerated. Even the "open-minded" families that leave it up to their kids to decide for themselves "one day" do not typically promote religion, and their lack of promotion is in itself a form of indoctrination, as children learn that their parents do not value it. This leads to inherent biases against religion, since, after all, if, for example, you believe your atheist parents are really smart and reasonable, then it only makes sense that religion isn't for the smart and reasonable.

4. Indoctrination doesn't guarantee religious adherence. Many atheists were raised in Christian homes and taught the Bible to one degree or another, and yet they rejected all of that. The same happens in all religions: I know of a young lady that was raised as a Jehovah's Witness, and she has since left that religion and become a Christian. Same for Muslims, Buddhists, Mormons, and on and on. Many atheists who were raised as such have become Christian, as well. So no, "indoctrination" doesn't necessarily drive long-term conversion or belief.

5. Your statement about not even conceiving of other belief systems is also not typical, even in Christian homes. Christians still live in a pluralistic society where there are many other religions and worldviews on display, especially in public schools these days. Exposure to other religions occurs often, even within Christian homes. For my own part, I teach my family about other religions, what they believe, why they believe it, and why I believe they are wrong. Yes, I'm indoctrinating them against such religions, but I'm also teaching them what those religions teach so that they are aware. Whether or not they will ever consider believing those other religions, they are aware those religions exist. So, your assertion that Christians can't even conceive of other beliefs or religions is just absurd and a clear overstatement.
This post was edited on 8/1/26 at 6:03 pm
Posted by soonerinlOUisiana
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Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 8/1/26 at 2:44 pm to
Your own response contradicts your point, dumbass. Rome conquered Egypt (actually Greece before them). When Constantine converted the empire to Christianity, that included Egypt. Christianity didn’t conquer anything. Nice attempt at white knighting for the rag heads though.
Posted by AkronTiger
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Posted on 8/1/26 at 3:06 pm to
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Nero first sent missionaries to build churches


Link? This isn't true. Nero was emperor three hundred years before Theodosius declared Christianity the state religion. Nero himself blamed the "atheists" (aka Christians) for the great fire as they were an easy scapegoat as an already unpopular group. Persecution continued for multiple centuries.
This post was edited on 8/1/26 at 3:26 pm
Posted by AkronTiger
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Posted on 8/1/26 at 3:22 pm to
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You mean like the ritualistic practice of eating human flesh and drinking blood?



Justin Martyr defended the Eucharist/Lord's Supper against the accusations of cannibalism in the middle second century.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
46251 posts
Posted on 8/1/26 at 4:46 pm to
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Egypt was a Majority Christian nation


and fat people were once skinny but what does that have to do with the price of beer?
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
92078 posts
Posted on 8/1/26 at 5:56 pm to
Algeria was 0% Muslim at one point. Afghanistan had a heavy Buddhism influence.

Islam takes over everything.


Posted by Neutral Underground
Member since Mar 2024
3755 posts
Posted on 8/1/26 at 6:22 pm to
The older I get. The more I realize why the Founders didn't want to give everyone the ability to vote. A pure "Democracy" is just mob rule. There are a lot of morons and people that don't contribute to the system who don't deserve the right to vote. I really like Starship Troopers voting system. Only Citizens get to vote and the only way to become a Citizen is to serve. You look at life a lot differently when you have actual skin in the game.
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