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re: Do you believe you understand what systemic racism is?
Posted on 6/4/20 at 9:54 am to Y.A. Tittle
Posted on 6/4/20 at 9:54 am to Y.A. Tittle
The mass incarceration of black men. The government introduced crack to black neighborhoods and have been putting black people in jail for using crack since.
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Posted on 6/4/20 at 9:56 am to 4cubbies
Thanks, Karen. We are all stupid and have no idea that racism and bigotry exists.
deleted rest of comment as it is a waste of time.
deleted rest of comment as it is a waste of time.
This post was edited on 6/4/20 at 10:02 am
Posted on 6/4/20 at 9:57 am to doubleb
quote:this is a great point. I think the system is designed to keep power and wealth where it already is. Blacks have been a vulnerable group forever and have been the easiest to target.
Is the system racist? Or is the system designed that way for political reasons as people become more and more dependent on the government?
Posted on 6/4/20 at 9:58 am to 4cubbies
quote:
people are made up of individuals who are free to have their own opinions though.
Sure but idk what you are getting at. Looking at the subset of individuals in media and on twitter I've seen they are unable to consider any position outside of their own. It's us vs everyone who doesn't tow the line because people's lives are at stake. I get that perspective if the underlying premises were true, but when people challenge the premises of your movement with data you can't just ignore/decry racism.
This post was edited on 6/4/20 at 10:00 am
Posted on 6/4/20 at 9:58 am to 4cubbies
quote:
I think the system is designed to keep power and wealth where it already is.
by Democrats.
Posted on 6/4/20 at 9:59 am to 4cubbies
There’s a new system where people with white guilt can sell everything they own and give all that money to black people.
You don’t even need mommy government to arrange it for you.
Get started.
You don’t even need mommy government to arrange it for you.
Get started.
Posted on 6/4/20 at 10:00 am to 4cubbies
quote:
The mass incarceration of black men. The government introduced crack to black neighborhoods and have been putting black people in jail for using crack since.
Oh, nevermind.
Posted on 6/4/20 at 10:00 am to 4cubbies
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Honest and sincere question: are you interested in understanding the other side and alternative perspectives or do you think you already understand and thus are interested only in sharing your own thoughts? Are you open to possibility that you don’t understand everything about BLM and systemic racism?
Honest answer .... I will assure you that I understand it as much as you do, perhaps more. And I will also assure you that BLM (Barack's Lies Matter) is being systemically used to promote racial division for political gain ....
Posted on 6/4/20 at 10:00 am to Smokeyone
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Because hard work and better decisions generally improve your position?
the problem is that some people are in such bad positions they're basically fricked from birth
they can't even conceptualize "good decisions"
you think education is important? i bet you also understand that home life impacts differing outcomes greatly in education. how much help do you think a kid can get at home by a parent who may have a legit 7th-8th grade education?
repeat this same issue with most variables that lead to individual success. pathologies create pathologies.
now you want to say that we need to discuss/criticize those parents? fine with me (but not with SJWs), but that goes beyond the individual
Posted on 6/4/20 at 10:01 am to LSUSaintsHornets
quote:
people are made up of individuals who are free to have their own opinions though.
Unless they disagree with the SJW crowd, just ask Drew Breez
Posted on 6/4/20 at 10:01 am to DucTape
quote:
accountability
That is systemic racism.
Posted on 6/4/20 at 10:01 am to 4cubbies
quote:
The government introduced crack to black neighborhoods and have been putting black people in jail for using crack since.
Bahahahahahahaha
Posted on 6/4/20 at 10:01 am to 4cubbies
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I don’t believe these consequences were/are unintended.
Yet when someone attempts to reverse those intentional consequences, they're met with unfounded claims of racism.
In Baton Rouge see:
- Council on Aging saga
- Federal tire shredder grant in industrial zoned area
Posted on 6/4/20 at 10:01 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:I guess we’re having different discussions. I’m not concerned with what “they” or “them” think of people who hold certain opinions. I legit don’t care. This thread is evolving and isn’t about only one precise thing.
how is me pointing out a shitty aspect of their belief system not me displaying "things I can control like my knowledge and information" about their cause? pointing out shitty rhetoric/beliefs shows the very thing (understanding their argument) this thread is based on (allegedly)
quote:i accept it. I just don’t care to discuss it.
why are you having problems accepting major issues with the belief system?
Posted on 6/4/20 at 10:02 am to 4cubbies
Pretending as if our jails are full of crack users is the height of ignorance.
Posted on 6/4/20 at 10:02 am to 4cubbies
Ive noticed a pattern in your posts. Pose something inflammatory. Never address the subject manner in detail. Never address counterpoints. Cherry pick posts that allow you to respond in an offhanded manner. Rapidly move the goalposts by evading tough questions to take up a thread question that require only shallow answers.
I dont think you start these threads for actual discussion or persuasion. You do so, so that you can show yourself(and likely others) how racist and backward we are.
I dont think you start these threads for actual discussion or persuasion. You do so, so that you can show yourself(and likely others) how racist and backward we are.
Posted on 6/4/20 at 10:02 am to 4cubbies
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Would you say the same thing about mass incarceration?
You can't look at "mass incarceration" in a bubble and decide it's systemic racism.
The systemic racism that promotes a culture that is destructive to black people is the problem. Incarceration rates are the symptom. However, to the degree that black men are incarcerated longer and more frequent than white men for the same behaviors, ABSOLUTELY it should be addressed.
Posted on 6/4/20 at 10:03 am to 4cubbies
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The mass incarceration of black men.
directly linked to the higher crime rates.
There is no truth to the belief that there are a bunch of black men in jail because of drugs.
Black men make up 37.5% of the prison population. If you freed every drug prisoner they would make up 37% of the prison population.
quote:
The government introduced crack to black neighborhoods and have been putting black people in jail for using crack since.
Crack laws have always been equivalent to meth laws. now meth sentences are even worse than crack sentences.
whites make up 70% of meth convictions, blacks 2%
Is there a war on whites over meth?
Do your research
Posted on 6/4/20 at 10:03 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
the problem is that some people are in such bad positions they're basically fricked from birth
they can't even conceptualize "good decisions"
you think education is important? i bet you also understand that home life impacts differing outcomes greatly in education. how much help do you think a kid can get at home by a parent who may have a legit 7th-8th grade education?
repeat this same issue with most variables that lead to individual success. pathologies create pathologies.
now you want to say that we need to discuss/criticize those parents? fine with me (but not with SJWs), but that goes beyond the individual
This. It's also why the current attitude is so dangerous. People just have radically different conceptions of what the problem is and what the solutions are.
Posted on 6/4/20 at 10:04 am to SlowFlowPro
That goes back to the destruction of the black family, lack of male role models and lack guidance as youth from them. It’s hard to be a good man when there is no man to show them how.
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