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re: Do Illegals commit more crimes by percentage than US Citizens?
Posted on 8/7/26 at 6:19 pm to CrimsonFever
Posted on 8/7/26 at 6:19 pm to CrimsonFever
100% of illegals are criminals.
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Posted on 8/7/26 at 6:27 pm to CrimsonFever
quote:
Do Illegals commit more crimes by percentage than US Citizens?
100% of them commit crimes...they are committing a crime just by being in the country illegally...
Posted on 8/7/26 at 6:54 pm to UtahCajun
quote:Correct. We don't even know what the denominator is.
No one knows since immigration status is only recorded in Texas and no other state.
And if 100% of illegals were stopped at the border, that would be 0% new crimes from that cohort. It's all negative lagniappe.
Posted on 8/7/26 at 7:02 pm to CrimsonFever
We have our own crime problem. So why should we allow people who aren't even allowed to be here further contribute to that problem?
Posted on 8/7/26 at 7:03 pm to CrimsonFever
You know who commits less violent crime than illegal immigrants?
Legal immigrants.
Legal immigrants.
Posted on 8/7/26 at 7:07 pm to CrimsonFever
For federal crimes in 2025:
So, about 40% of federally-sentenced criminals last year were illegal aliens.
Even if you say that illegals are 20% of the population, they still commit crimes at twice their representation.
The facts don't match your narrative.
https://www.ussc.gov/research/quick-facts/federally-sentenced-non-us-citizens
If you want to argue that this is only federal, which usually means more serious crimes, then post actual numbers. Immigration status isn't recorded at the state or county level in the vast majority of police districts, so it will be a terribly incomplete data set, basically worthless.
For the verified data we do have, it shows illegals commit more crimes. If you remove black crime statistics, then it is completely lopsided.
I don't think we should be comparing illegals to the worst among us, though. We want all immigrants to rival the best, otherwise they are a drain.
quote:
Of the 66,662 cases reported to the Commission in fiscal year 2025, 28,886 involved non-U.S. citizens.1 Non-U.S. citizens accounted for 44% of all individuals sentenced in fiscal year 2025.
92% were illegal aliens, 6% were legal aliens, 1% were extradited aliens, and 1% were unknown status.
So, about 40% of federally-sentenced criminals last year were illegal aliens.
Even if you say that illegals are 20% of the population, they still commit crimes at twice their representation.
The facts don't match your narrative.
https://www.ussc.gov/research/quick-facts/federally-sentenced-non-us-citizens
If you want to argue that this is only federal, which usually means more serious crimes, then post actual numbers. Immigration status isn't recorded at the state or county level in the vast majority of police districts, so it will be a terribly incomplete data set, basically worthless.
For the verified data we do have, it shows illegals commit more crimes. If you remove black crime statistics, then it is completely lopsided.
I don't think we should be comparing illegals to the worst among us, though. We want all immigrants to rival the best, otherwise they are a drain.
Posted on 8/7/26 at 7:16 pm to Big Scrub TX
quote:
We don't even know what the denominator is.
Yep. Most mainstream outlets assess the number of illegals between 11-16MM. Thats a huge margin of error.
In reality, the number is likely double. Biden alone let in 7MM. No one can make the statement in the OP with any reliability whatsoever.
Posted on 8/7/26 at 7:22 pm to CrimsonFever
1) more whites are shot by cops than blacks
2) yet blacks commit almost 70% of violent crimes with only 5 or 6% of the population(black males)
3) any illegal extra crime is a crime that should not have happened because they should not be here. PERIOD.
2) yet blacks commit almost 70% of violent crimes with only 5 or 6% of the population(black males)
3) any illegal extra crime is a crime that should not have happened because they should not be here. PERIOD.
Posted on 8/7/26 at 7:29 pm to CrimsonFever
You are missing the point....look at the world around you! Lazy miserable people are invading here by the millions...
Posted on 8/7/26 at 7:59 pm to CrimsonFever
quote:
So a US citizen is twice as likely to commit a violent crime or property crime than an illegal. Is this surprising to you?
Another way to word that is illegal aliens commit 50% the violent crime of US citizens.
No context if those stats take per capita into account.
Even giving the benefit of the doubt that it does take in account per capita......100% of that 50% would be prevented if those illegal aliens were not in the country.
Posted on 8/7/26 at 8:07 pm to VOLhalla
quote:
If you overstay a visa that’s isn’t a crime. If you properly cross over the border and have never been deported before that isn’t actually a crime
Both of your examples are indeed crimes. You are trying to word play yourself out of this.
From Merriam-Webster
quote:
Crime - an illegal act for which someone can be punished by the government
The punishment for both criminal acts you say are not crimes, is being sent back to country of origin.
You are doing the same word play game here
quote:
If you’re a Mexican who’s never been deported before and you cross the border you aren’t an illegal alien
If said alien crossed the border illegally(ie they did not follow the proper steps to enter legally), they are indeed illegal aliens.
I do not see what is so hard about this. None of your arguments hold water even in the alien's home country or any other country in the world, yet somehow you wish them to hold water here. Question is, why? What is the ulterior motive here?
This post was edited on 8/7/26 at 8:12 pm
Posted on 8/7/26 at 8:22 pm to CrimsonFever
quote:
Do Illegals
Duh, stop right there. 100% of illegals commit crimes. 100% of US Citizens do not.
End of story.
Posted on 8/7/26 at 8:28 pm to CrimsonFever
Most crime is committed by 14-35 year olds of a certain demographic that happens to be legal natural citizens. This isn’t surprising.
Posted on 8/7/26 at 9:42 pm to CrimsonFever
.......no, some other people do something
If you know what in the bartender titties I mean
If you know what in the bartender titties I mean
Posted on 8/7/26 at 9:56 pm to CrimsonFever
…. they do when a democratic administration fails to enforce immigration law …. and opens the border to foreign prisoners and cartel boyz for illegal migration.
It’s insane to even try and justify it
Posted on 8/7/26 at 10:00 pm to CrimsonFever
Progressive areas like NYC/Chicago/Philadelphia etc, literally the largest cities in country, DO NOT report immigration status and ESPECIALLY not crime.
Posted on 8/7/26 at 10:06 pm to CrimsonFever
But EVERY crime they commit are crimes which would never have happened
Posted on 8/7/26 at 10:11 pm to CrimsonFever
quote:
So a US citizen is twice as likely to commit a violent crime or property crime than an illegal.
This is 100% false, and based off of arrest data from hundreds of jurisdictions that don't record immigration status.
When filtered only for departments that report immigration status, illegals lead in every category of crime.
ETA- I see TenWheelsForJesus beat me to it, and linked some actual data. EVERY TIME A LEFTIST TELLS YOU ILLEGALS COMMIT FEWER VIOLENT CRIMES, THEY ARE LYING. Well, honestly, they lie about a lot of shite...
This post was edited on 8/7/26 at 10:17 pm
Posted on 8/7/26 at 10:28 pm to CrimsonFever
Can you break this down by race?
Posted on 8/7/26 at 10:31 pm to CrimsonFever
What a stupid question. Yes because Biden let 20 million of the worst in.
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