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re: Do Illegals commit more crimes by percentage than US Citizens?

Posted on 8/7/26 at 6:19 pm to
Posted by McChowder
Hammond
Member since Dec 2006
5765 posts
Posted on 8/7/26 at 6:19 pm to
100% of illegals are criminals.

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Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
79616 posts
Posted on 8/7/26 at 6:27 pm to
quote:

Do Illegals commit more crimes by percentage than US Citizens?


100% of them commit crimes...they are committing a crime just by being in the country illegally...
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
40159 posts
Posted on 8/7/26 at 6:54 pm to
quote:

No one knows since immigration status is only recorded in Texas and no other state.
Correct. We don't even know what the denominator is.

And if 100% of illegals were stopped at the border, that would be 0% new crimes from that cohort. It's all negative lagniappe.
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
18930 posts
Posted on 8/7/26 at 7:02 pm to
We have our own crime problem. So why should we allow people who aren't even allowed to be here further contribute to that problem?


Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
60109 posts
Posted on 8/7/26 at 7:03 pm to
You know who commits less violent crime than illegal immigrants?

Legal immigrants.
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
11683 posts
Posted on 8/7/26 at 7:07 pm to
For federal crimes in 2025:
quote:

Of the 66,662 cases reported to the Commission in fiscal year 2025, 28,886 involved non-U.S. citizens.1 Non-U.S. citizens accounted for 44% of all individuals sentenced in fiscal year 2025.

92% were illegal aliens, 6% were legal aliens, 1% were extradited aliens, and 1% were unknown status.



So, about 40% of federally-sentenced criminals last year were illegal aliens.

Even if you say that illegals are 20% of the population, they still commit crimes at twice their representation.

The facts don't match your narrative.

https://www.ussc.gov/research/quick-facts/federally-sentenced-non-us-citizens

If you want to argue that this is only federal, which usually means more serious crimes, then post actual numbers. Immigration status isn't recorded at the state or county level in the vast majority of police districts, so it will be a terribly incomplete data set, basically worthless.

For the verified data we do have, it shows illegals commit more crimes. If you remove black crime statistics, then it is completely lopsided.

I don't think we should be comparing illegals to the worst among us, though. We want all immigrants to rival the best, otherwise they are a drain.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
48286 posts
Posted on 8/7/26 at 7:16 pm to
quote:

We don't even know what the denominator is.


Yep. Most mainstream outlets assess the number of illegals between 11-16MM. Thats a huge margin of error.

In reality, the number is likely double. Biden alone let in 7MM. No one can make the statement in the OP with any reliability whatsoever.
Posted by Fat Bastard
alter hunter
Member since Mar 2009
92144 posts
Posted on 8/7/26 at 7:22 pm to
1) more whites are shot by cops than blacks

2) yet blacks commit almost 70% of violent crimes with only 5 or 6% of the population(black males)

3) any illegal extra crime is a crime that should not have happened because they should not be here. PERIOD.
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
25912 posts
Posted on 8/7/26 at 7:29 pm to
You are missing the point....look at the world around you! Lazy miserable people are invading here by the millions...
Posted by Phil Shifley
Member since Feb 2019
84 posts
Posted on 8/7/26 at 7:59 pm to
quote:

So a US citizen is twice as likely to commit a violent crime or property crime than an illegal. Is this surprising to you?


Another way to word that is illegal aliens commit 50% the violent crime of US citizens.

No context if those stats take per capita into account.

Even giving the benefit of the doubt that it does take in account per capita......100% of that 50% would be prevented if those illegal aliens were not in the country.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
7120 posts
Posted on 8/7/26 at 8:07 pm to
quote:

If you overstay a visa that’s isn’t a crime. If you properly cross over the border and have never been deported before that isn’t actually a crime

Both of your examples are indeed crimes. You are trying to word play yourself out of this.
From Merriam-Webster
quote:

Crime - an illegal act for which someone can be punished by the government

The punishment for both criminal acts you say are not crimes, is being sent back to country of origin.

You are doing the same word play game here
quote:

If you’re a Mexican who’s never been deported before and you cross the border you aren’t an illegal alien

If said alien crossed the border illegally(ie they did not follow the proper steps to enter legally), they are indeed illegal aliens.

I do not see what is so hard about this. None of your arguments hold water even in the alien's home country or any other country in the world, yet somehow you wish them to hold water here. Question is, why? What is the ulterior motive here?
This post was edited on 8/7/26 at 8:12 pm
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
20660 posts
Posted on 8/7/26 at 8:22 pm to
quote:

Do Illegals


Duh, stop right there. 100% of illegals commit crimes. 100% of US Citizens do not.

End of story.
Posted by Squirrelmeister
Member since Nov 2021
3995 posts
Posted on 8/7/26 at 8:28 pm to
Most crime is committed by 14-35 year olds of a certain demographic that happens to be legal natural citizens. This isn’t surprising.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
36632 posts
Posted on 8/7/26 at 9:42 pm to
.......no, some other people do something

If you know what in the bartender titties I mean
Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
11251 posts
Posted on 8/7/26 at 9:56 pm to

…. they do when a democratic administration fails to enforce immigration law …. and opens the border to foreign prisoners and cartel boyz for illegal migration.

It’s insane to even try and justify it
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
64596 posts
Posted on 8/7/26 at 10:00 pm to
Progressive areas like NYC/Chicago/Philadelphia etc, literally the largest cities in country, DO NOT report immigration status and ESPECIALLY not crime.
Posted by phaz
Waddell, AZ
Member since Jan 2009
7055 posts
Posted on 8/7/26 at 10:06 pm to
But EVERY crime they commit are crimes which would never have happened
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
23313 posts
Posted on 8/7/26 at 10:11 pm to
quote:

So a US citizen is twice as likely to commit a violent crime or property crime than an illegal.


This is 100% false, and based off of arrest data from hundreds of jurisdictions that don't record immigration status.

When filtered only for departments that report immigration status, illegals lead in every category of crime.

ETA- I see TenWheelsForJesus beat me to it, and linked some actual data. EVERY TIME A LEFTIST TELLS YOU ILLEGALS COMMIT FEWER VIOLENT CRIMES, THEY ARE LYING. Well, honestly, they lie about a lot of shite...
This post was edited on 8/7/26 at 10:17 pm
Posted by Maillard
BTR
Member since Jul 2021
438 posts
Posted on 8/7/26 at 10:28 pm to
Can you break this down by race?
Posted by kayjay
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
730 posts
Posted on 8/7/26 at 10:31 pm to
What a stupid question. Yes because Biden let 20 million of the worst in.
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