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Squirrelmeister
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re: I've flipped. I'm Pro-Abortion af nowadays
Posted by Squirrelmeister on 8/21/26 at 10:42 pm to FooManChoo
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The nature and context of the claims are actually very different, so it's not a great comparison.
Surah 54 is the divinely inspired word of God, and because that we know everything in it is truthful and accurate and historical, and because we know all that, rest assured it proves it is divinely inspired. Sound familiar?
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In addition, we have the fact that the historical accounts for Christianity are attested to by multiple claimed eye-witnesses and those who and interviewed eye-witnesses.
It’s a great comparison. The Hadiths confirm it was Muhammad who was there and witnessed the moon split and showed many people, and the Quran was written by Muhammad. Both the Hadiths and Quran contain eyewitness accounts of the moon splitting in the sky between two mountains.
Joseph Smith was an eyewitness to the angel Moroni, and he wrote a book of the translation of hidden buried golden plates engraved in “reformed Egyptian”. Martin Harris and two others signed affidavits saying they met the angel Moroni and saw the golden plates. 8 more eyewitnesses signed affidavits that Joseph showed them the plates and they even handled them and saw the engravings. Certainly with all these eyewitness accounts - from less than 200 years ago, would convince you to believe the Book of Mormon.
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The claim about the moon splitting in two would have expected to be seen by anyone who also had visibility to the moon at the same time, which would have been much of the Christian world. There are meticulous records kept and preserved from that part of the world at that time, and there isn't a single mention of the moon-split occurring, so it's not really and apples-to-apples comparison in that regard.
Meticulous records. I agree. And there are no contemporary Roman or Jewish written accounts of some nut or revolutionary named Yeshu or Iesous disrupting commerce in the temple and kicking everyone out. Nor is there a record of a Jesus of Nazareth, nor a solar eclipse or an earthquake in Jersusalem around 30CE nor any records of anyone coming back to life after being dead including people being resurrected out of their graves and appearing to many people. That would have been something. None of the “500 brethren” bothered to write anything down about what they allegedly had seen. Just be honest and consistent just for once Foo - you don’t have to lie. I think you are capable of honesty deep down.
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So again, no, these are not apples-to-apples comparisons, and therefore, there is no special pleading.
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re: I've flipped. I'm Pro-Abortion af nowadays
Posted by Squirrelmeister on 8/21/26 at 10:19 am to FooManChoo
quote:quote:It's not the same claim. Not only do Christians not believe blindly, but we don't believe all accounts equally. We have no reason to believe the claims of Mohammad, since he taught things that contradict what we believe to be true already from God in His Word. In this case, since we have someone claiming something that goes against trusted testimony, we have reason not to believe him.
In Surah 54:1, Mohammmed and the entire population of Mecca witnessed the moon split in half. Tell us if you do or do not believe the historicity of that story without special pleading
Two sets of secondhand claims of eyewitnesses to an event. You believe one claim because you already believe it. You don’t believe the other claim because you already know it’s false.
Idiot :lol:
re: I've flipped. I'm Pro-Abortion af nowadays
Posted by Squirrelmeister on 8/19/26 at 3:49 pm to FooManChoo
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I think you need to pick a different definition of "faith", because sticking with believing something that you know isn't true is certainly not what any Christian means by faith, nor is that the typical understanding.
Facts don’t care about your feelings.
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Christians believe the Bible is true and have many reasons for why it isn't a "blind trust"
Paul, John, and Hebrews and Jesus himself blesses those that believe in what they can’t see nor verify is real or true. To them it is a virtue. I think you’re mistaken. It needs to be a “blind trust” because blindness is all you have to start with.
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For instance, Paul said that an evidence of the truth of the resurrection is that Jesus was seen by hundreds of witnesses, including himself
But he blesses those that believe but “weren’t there”. None of them were there. Paul wasn’t there. Best case he was parroting what he had heard about the “500 brethren”.
In Surah 54:1, Mohammmed and the entire population of Mecca witnessed the moon split in half. Tell us if you do or do not believe the historicity of that story without special pleading.
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Regardless, I explained myself. If you refuse to accept the truth, that's on you. You can still keep that hard-earned 'L'.
Dude can’t even come up with his own insult.
:rotflmao:
re: I've flipped. I'm Pro-Abortion af nowadays
Posted by Squirrelmeister on 8/19/26 at 1:03 pm to FooManChoo
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There is plenty of evidence, just none you will accept because of your self-defeating empiricism-only epistemology.
No, there isn’t. That’s why what you have is “faith”. Your apologetics would not exist nor need to exist if faith was rational and reasonable. Faith is an assertion of unreasonable conviction which is assumed without reason and defended against all reason. Faith is believing what you know ain’t so.
When Paul wrote that we walk by faith, not by sight, he acknowledged that he had no evidence for what he preached but that his followers should believe anyway. When the author of Hebrews (who the hell knows who the author is - not even William Lane Craig) wrote that faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen, he too is stated clearly there is no evidence for their beliefs. By saying you have evidence, or proof, of God’s existence, you are shitting on the NT authors and their theology. When John wrote blessed are they who have not seen but yet believe, you are telling him no I don’t need faith to believe because I have the evidences for God and I can give them to an atheist and if the atheist was honest, he would begin to believe. You’re a mess, Foo.
Take the loss, you :loser:.
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you need to re-read what I wrote if you think that's true. Talk about being self-deceived... Yes, you are suppressing the truth in unrighteousness. That's clear to see.
What you wrote was preserved by me and only Chicken can erase it, and what was preserved was the clear admission that you believe I am unconvinced of your arguments. Like I said, take the L, Foo.
re: I've flipped. I'm Pro-Abortion af nowadays
Posted by Squirrelmeister on 8/19/26 at 11:07 am to FooManChoo
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You are the one saying there is absolutely no evidence to support the existence of God. You don't even understand the concept of evidence, and why it's factually incorrect for you to make such a claim of lack of evidence, just because you are not persuaded by them.
There’s no evidence, at least none that I’m aware of. Baseless assertions, proven falsehoods, and fallacious arguments don’t constitute evidence.
And there you go - again - admitting I am not persuaded by your fallacious arguments I’ve heard thousands of times from you and others. Every now and then a liar can mouth a kernel of truth, apparently. So because you admit that I am unconvinced in the existence of your deities, you can just stop writing that I am “suppressing the truth” or that “God has made himself clear” to me or that I am “without excuse”. Any attempt to use Romans 18-20 against me now will be a lie, and I will call you out on it.
re: Passing a law designating Islam as a political movement
Posted by Squirrelmeister on 8/19/26 at 9:29 am to FooManChoo
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I've never claimed that atheists openly admit to a willful admission to belief in God.
Nice attempted straw man. :lol:
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I've always explained it as a suppression of the truth and a self-deception, just like in your case.
Nope, you were caught red handed admitting that I am not convinced as opposed to “self deception”.
I’ll keep exposing your deception.
re: I've flipped. I'm Pro-Abortion af nowadays
Posted by Squirrelmeister on 8/19/26 at 7:51 am to FooManChoo
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You are, and you I know you aren't persuaded by proofs or arguments that contradict your assumed materialistic worldview. You are immune to reason precisely because you already assume an irrational worldview.
This kind of shite is your confession of your own faults attempting to project onto others.
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Again, certainty (persuasion) is based on the individual. The truth is in the argument and proof. There are many people who believed O.J. didn't kill his wife and her boyfriend even though the evidence was overwhelming and conclusive
Conflating fallacious arguments with real evidence :lol:
Par for the course coming from a pathological liar and narcissist.
quote:quote:Right back at you.
You have a dogma. You’ve been programmed... You choose to live in a fantasy bubble. And you’re dishonest and condone evil. Sick.
If you weren’t a hypothetical liar persistently using fallacious arguments of projection and special pleading as an attempted means of deception, I’d swear you had been lobotomized.
:loser:
re: Passing a law designating Islam as a political movement
Posted by Squirrelmeister on 8/18/26 at 11:49 pm to Boom33
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Boom33
Hey buddy, I noticed you are arguing with FooLaneCraig, the justifier of rape of young girls, genocide of people groups, and killing of innocent babies. He claims Yahweh torturing King David’s son with Bathsheba for 8 days and then killing him as punishment for David’s son was “good” and carried out by the creator of objective morality.
Feel free to argue with him to oblivion. He never tires of the same fallacious arguments, and he resorts to dishonesty. He is a psychopath who doesn’t realize he’s evil.
You really have to bait him methodically to admit to his evil ways or admit to the truth of our reality. For years he’s claimed on this site that there are no atheists, and that people like me really knew Yahweh exists but didn’t want to admit it. Well yesterday I finally got him to admit that atheists genuinely and legitimately are not convinced in the existence of Yahweh. If you keep plugging away, you will trip him up in his persistent lies.
re: I've flipped. I'm Pro-Abortion af nowadays
Posted by Squirrelmeister on 8/18/26 at 7:51 pm to wackatimesthree
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Call the examples of abductive reasoning he's listed arguments if you want; that doesn't mean they are invalid.
They are arguments, and fallacious arguments at that. Many or most are circular and presuppose the conclusion in the premise. None of them even attempt to explain how the argument provides evidence for the “Christian God”.
Take the William Lane Craig special.
1. Everything that poofs into existence from nothingness has a cause.
2. The universe poofed into existence from nothingness.
3. Therefore the universe has a cause.
Now I’ve explained dozens of times to you idiots that literally no scientist claims to support the idea that the universe began to exist (matter and energy created from nothingness). This doesn’t stop non-scientists who don’t know their arse from a hole in the ground from asserting that their God poofed the universe into existence ex nihilo.
Foo’s AI list of fallacies don’t ever connect to Yahweh. The Kalam fallacy stops at the universe having a cause. It doesn’t then follow that the cause is Yahweh, the storm deity of the Midianites and Shasu tribes of the Sinai. The Kalam fallacy was created by the medieval Muslims in Persia to argue for the creation of the world by Allah.
:lol:
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Implying that they are is just the latest load of BS you have slung around here.
I’m not implying they are invalid. I’m explicitly, not implicitly, stating that they are erroneous and fallacious and even if there was any merit to any of them, not a single one logically follows that the creator must be a timeless, bodiless, causeless, omnipotent, omnipresent, omnibenevolent, perfect, spaceless deity comprised of three co-equal co-eternal persons comprising the same substance, in which one subservient co-equal person didn’t seek to become equal to the dominant co-equal person, but emptied himself taking on the form of a slave so that he could be killed and resurrected thereby defeating sin and death while sin and death have been continuing for 2000 years after they were supposed to end.
All of you - you should be honest with yourselves and others on this site. Admit you have faith in a supernatural realm that cannot be tested or proven, and for which no evidence exists. You just believe. And you have faith in the truth and historicity of an ancient collection of writings originally recorded on clay tablets and goat skins, even though modern science proves they are mythology. It’s dumb, but at least it would be honest.
re: I've flipped. I'm Pro-Abortion af nowadays
Posted by Squirrelmeister on 8/18/26 at 3:20 pm to FooManChoo
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You are. You are saying that since you are not persuaded,that those proofs demonstrate there is a God, or the biblical God, or that the Bible is true, that they are not evidence or proof at all. You are discounting the logical proofs entirely, and I suspect it's because philosophy isn't your strong suit.
No, I’m not. And I’m not persuaded by bullshite arguments.
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You seem to be looking for empirical evidence only, rather than moral or logical evidence.
Yes verifiable testable falsifiable evidence. Thank you for using the singular “evidence” - your earlier plural versions make you sound like a retard.
You fail though at even making bullshite arguments, because you don’t finish your arguments. FooLaneCraig’s Kalam argument stops at some kind of supernatural deity and doesn’t preclude there being many deities. How does Kalam turn into “and because of that, I know that it is Yahweh the war god of the Shasu”? The Kalam can just as much be used as the start of an argument for Allah, Ahura Mazda, or thousands of other make believe deity characters. Why won’t you ever answer that question? We know why.
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So again, just because you aren't persuaded by them doesn't mean they aren't proofs.
Well they don’t introduce certainty, your sour bullshite claims - arguments - don’t qualify.
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Regarding the claim that those proofs to not prove the Christian God: you are right to a degree.
Not to a degree. It is a fact. Refreshing to see you being something approaching honest.
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That's where more argumentation comes in, specifically that only the God of the Bible fits the bill for the God that is necessary in terms of those proofs.
More nonsense. All the other religions are going to make the same style of arguments in favor of their imaginary creator deities. They’re just arguments and baseless assertions that defy basic scientific knowledge.
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I'm not hiding. I've addressed those several times in the past and I'd be happy to do so again. I don't want to be further derailed by you, since you can't stick to one line of argumentation,
You’re hiding. You hate biblical cosmology. You hate that even at the time of the New Testament authors - at a time the Greeks knew the earth was a sphere - the NT authors wrote stories of being able to see the entire world from a single high point.
Speaking of stick, you hate that too. The Jesus in Mark says take nothing except a stick. The Jesus in Matthew says not to take a stick. Save Greek verb “to take”.
You have a dogma. You’ve been programmed. You don’t care about the Bible or the truth of your reality. You choose to live in a fantasy bubble. And you’re dishonest and condone evil. Sick.
re: DOJ Ends Nine Decades Of NFA Red Tape Over Suppressors In HUGE Victory For Gun Owners!!
Posted by Squirrelmeister on 8/17/26 at 6:35 pm to Timeoday
Remember when Trump outlawed bump stocks by executive fiat? I was pretty pissed off.
But now we can have FRTs and suppressors without unconstitutional burden so I kind of forgive him now, even though he is beholden to the Jews and their spies to attack countries we have no business dealing with.
But now we can have FRTs and suppressors without unconstitutional burden so I kind of forgive him now, even though he is beholden to the Jews and their spies to attack countries we have no business dealing with.
re: I've flipped. I'm Pro-Abortion af nowadays
Posted by Squirrelmeister on 8/17/26 at 6:28 pm to FooManChoo
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I normally write my own argumentation, but I figured it would be a waste of time in this instance.
Damn that’s actually a really good judgement. Great job and I’m serious.
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I think you need to look up what a proof is.
You are incorrect.
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There is a difference between proof and persuasion. You are conflating those two things.
I am not conflating the two. You, however, seem to be acknowledging I am not persuaded, and therefore are admitting I legitimately and genuinely do not believe in things that I am not persuaded actually exist. So Bravo. I’m glad you admitted to it.
But your chatbot list are all arguments. Fallacious arguments. Not evidence, and not proof. And they aren’t even arguments for your deity. The Kalam argument doesn’t argue for Yahweh Sabaoth, the war deity of the Shasu/Midianite/Edomite peoples that was adopted by the Israelites and merged with El and Baal that you call “God”. It argues for “a” supernatural creator or creators, not Yahweh. So it’s fallacious to say the universe was created by a god and therefore we know that it was created by Yahweh. It’s also fallacious on its second premise that the universe began to exist. Modern science does not suggest this - no scientists and definitely no big bang cosmologists argue or state that the universe began to exist.
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I've realized that a long time ago. Our "conversations" are nothing more than me showing the rest of this board how ridiculous you are in your irrational atheism.
Whether you think it is rational or not, there is absolutely no evidence for the existence of your deity or anyone’s deities, and plenty of evidence clearly showing the ancient books on which the characters of the deities are based are purely mythological and not based on facts or reality about history or our natural world or cosmos.
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9Then Moses and Aaron, Nadab, and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel went up, 10and they saw the God of Israel. There was under his feet as it were a pavement of sapphire stone, like the very heaven for clearness. 11And he did not lay his hand on the chief men of the people of Israel; they beheld God, and ate and drank.
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26And above the firmament over their heads there was the likeness of a throne, in appearance like sapphire; and seated above the likeness of a throne was a likeness with a human appearance.
You can’t hide from the firmament forever, Foo. And you can’t reconcile that plenty of Old Testament dudes saw Yahweh face to face and yet John the apostle tells us no one has ever seen God.
:lol:
re: Palo Alto students go on a field trip. TO A MOSQUE. Parents file lawsuit
Posted by Squirrelmeister on 8/17/26 at 10:31 am to trinidadtiger
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Had a flashback of something I hadnt thought of in years.
Are you sure about that?
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As a kid I was watching Jeopardy and the category was religion. The question: This title is used to signify God over 1700 times in the bible.
I checked the jeopardy archive online and could find no such clue.
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All three contestants guessed and all three got it wrong, one said Jehovah, I forget the other answers.
I’m not buying it. :lol:
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It was so foreign to me, how could three adults not know the answer, it never occurred to me that people didnt have any knowledge of the bible. The answer of course is Lord.
A couple of funny things. Depending on which “the Bible” you are referring to, the divine name - the Tetragrammaton - YHWH in English letters, commonly called “Yahweh”, is translated as “the LORD” and sometimes even “Jehovah”. So in your make-believe Jeopardy episode, both Jehovah and the LORD would have been correct, if the number of examples in the Bible would have been well over 7,000, not 1,700.
If you’ll check out Young’s literal translation and the American Standard Version of 1901, those have “Jehovah” everywhere modern English translations use “the LORD”.
And “Jehovah” as a name was a mistake due to the Masorites inventing Hebrew vowels but inserting the vowels for “Adonai” into the Tetragrammaton. When a Jew read the Tetragrammaton, he was supposed to say “Adonai” because if he said “Yahweh” he could have angered the deity for using his name in vain, so they thought. So they just decided to never say the name of their deity and just call him Adonai - or my LORD. The first English Bible translations in the 1500s used the word “Jehovah” because it was a literal translation of the Tetragrammaton with the vowels of Adonai mixed into it. Had they known the Masorites did this, they might have translated it into “Yahweh” from the beginning. Instead of having Jehovah’s Witnesses today, they might instead be called Yahweh’s Witnesses.
re: I've flipped. I'm Pro-Abortion af nowadays
Posted by Squirrelmeister on 8/17/26 at 7:16 am to FooManChoo
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here's a quick list of 20 evidences pulled from AI for you to look at.
Foo the potato-brain copies from a chatbot.
:lol:
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You don't have to agree with them, but they are proofs and evidences all the same
Not one is a proof. Not one is evidence of anything real or truthful about reality, nature, or the cosmos. It’s all bullshite, and you have never offered up any “evidences” (:rotflmao: you fricking idiot) to anything that comports with reality.
frick you Foo. You don’t have to agree with me on anything, but I do expect others to not be lying sacks of dog shite. If ever you acknowledge that…
1. I sincerely do not believe in the existence of your deity.
2. I have provided meaningful answers for the standards of subjective morality, even if you don’t like them.
Then we cannot have a meaningful conversation on here.
re: I've flipped. I'm Pro-Abortion af nowadays
Posted by Squirrelmeister on 8/15/26 at 9:19 pm to FooManChoo
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When I make a claim, I am providing support for it. There are countless proofs and evidences for the existence of the Christian God and the support for the Bible
:rotflmao:
fricking idiot
re: I've flipped. I'm Pro-Abortion af nowadays
Posted by Squirrelmeister on 8/15/26 at 1:50 pm to FooManChoo
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I’ve written books in response to your lies, especially ones you repeat over and over again, like the Davidic sperm theory.
That’s not a lie, you fricking idiot. It’s a plausible hypothesis. You have your head so far up your arse. For it to be a lie, I would have to assert the Davidic sperm concept as a fact, at the same time either knowing it to be false or having insufficient evidence to know if it is true.
Your assertions on the other hand are lies. You don’t know if there are unverifiable supernatural deities and neither do I, but for you to assert something as true without having any basis for such is a lie.
You can say you believe, or you have faith or whatever, but you can’t say you know there is a deity without it being a lie.
And that’s what you’re good at. Because it’s all you do - spouting baseless falsehoods as if you know they are facts. It’s shameful.
re: I've flipped. I'm Pro-Abortion af nowadays
Posted by Squirrelmeister on 8/15/26 at 9:39 am to FooManChoo
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You need to stop this. You keep calling me a liar without supporting the claim that I’m a liar.
You are a liar and a deceiver, and I’ve proven this dozens of times. I don’t need to write a book every time I call you a liar. I’ve written plenty of “books” on that subject about you already and they’re all preserved on this site.
re: How many Christians believe
Posted by Squirrelmeister on 8/14/26 at 10:33 am to Mo Jeaux
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The Book of Revelation was about the Roman Empire. It wasn’t a prophetic description of our times.
I love Revelation because it supports the concepts of 1 Cor and Galatians and Hebrews of Jesus being crucified in the heavenly temple in the heavenly Jerusalem. It’s a great example of the Christian cult’s fascination/continuity with first temple concepts - the ark of the covenant, the menorah, the glasslike firmament under the throne of Yahweh, the cherubim, etc.
Whether any particular bible uses 666 or 616 as the number of the beast, it still comes out to Nero. I think Revelation was written after Nero’s supposed death but before the Jerusalem temple was destroyed - so late 60s CE.
Most Christians don’t understand the imagery and context of Revelation. Any of them that think that it was prophetic or meant for people living 2,000 years later are just living under a rock and/or are dullards.
re: I've flipped. I'm Pro-Abortion af nowadays
Posted by Squirrelmeister on 8/14/26 at 6:35 am to FooManChoo
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Considering you aren’t supporting your accusations with any evidence and that you have nothing but name-calling left to offer, I’ll consider this another concession by you.
Nope, you can’t just come here and assert lies. No concession by me and no win for you. And you didn’t provide an answer for the question about the morality of killing babies though you said you had one. You’re a hack, a troll.
re: How many Christians believe
Posted by Squirrelmeister on 8/13/26 at 10:53 pm to DarthRebel
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Read Matthew 24:36, then just go on with your life and quit making dumb posts.
Read a few verses before that one and you’ll realize that the prophecy is a failed prophecy. It’s been 2,000 years past the deadline. Or at least 1,960 years or so. I think that generation is dead after a couple of millennia and we still have the same heaven and the same earth and the son of man still hasn’t come on the clouds and he still hasn’t resurrected the dead and judged the living and the dead.
re: The first lawful, unregistered suppressor transfer since June 26th, 1934 has occurred
Posted by Squirrelmeister on 8/13/26 at 10:29 pm to GRTiger
Anyone have success today in Louisiana and walk out with a silencer without a form 4? There’s quite a few “powered by silencer shop” kiosks in Louisiana.
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