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Squirrelmeister
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re: Has anyone considered that this execution debacle could be God's will?
Posted by Squirrelmeister on 10/5/26 at 8:17 pm to FooManChoo
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Yet again, you are merely sharing your personal opinion and not making an objective judgement
Dude you think babies… babies are born evil and deserve to be brutally murdered - sorry… “killed violently”… if their parents were worshipping other deities. You don’t support baby murder, because murder is unjustified killing, and you think killing of babies can be justified. You are pro-death, not pro-life. What I just wrote is objective verifiable fact.
That I think you’re a sick frick is my opinion, sure, but the consensus of good people would be that infanticide is supported only by sick individuals.
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because your worldview renders you incapable of doing so
So does yours.
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All your atheism allows for is personal, subjective opinions and preferences.
Yes but it’s based on maximizing happiness and wellbeing while minimizing suffering.
Your delusions drive your morality not based on any objective standards but based on what you think your imaginary deity would want under the circumstance. There just isn’t any consistent non-contradictory objective moral standard contained in the Bible, even if your deity really existed.
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but I think you're sick for rejecting your Creator
Impossible for me to reject that which its existence isn’t evident.
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I don't care what you think; your worldview makes you irrational.
Says the guy who literally believes in magic and ancient mythology with no basis in reality.
ETA: you think those Midianite and Canaanite babies should have been violently slaughtered by the sword because their parents…
- sacrificed their children
- committed incest
- had ritual prostitution
- and of course… worshipped other deities
And of course these are all things the Israelites were guilty of. Abraham married his sister. They had ritual prostitution that the Bible admits when Josiah had to do away with the temple prostitution. And even the Bible says every Israelite king and Judahite king (save for Hezekiah and Josiah) worshipped the hosts of heavens.
But those Canaanite and Midianites they were so depraved…. Worshipping all those other detestable abominations of gods…
That El Elyon set them up to worship!
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And beware lest you raise your eyes to heaven, and when you see the sun and the moon and the stars, all the host of heaven, you be drawn away and bow down to them and serve them, things that the LORD your God has allotted to all the peoples under the whole heaven.
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8When the Most High gave to the nations their inheritance, when he divided mankind, he fixed the borders of the peoples according to the number of the sons of God. 9But the LORD’s portion is his people, Jacob his allotted heritage.
So you’ve got to imagine God divided the peoples and gave each of them a god to worship as patron deity from the hosts of heavens, and then declared the peoples guilty of worshipping the very gods he apportioned to the nations to justify the violent slaughter of babies.
It’s just sick. And you’re an idiot for believing in it. All the other Christians on this site are simply uninformed and unaware because they haven’t actually studied the Bible and ancient history but you should know better.
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re: Has anyone considered that this execution debacle could be God's will?
Posted by Squirrelmeister on 10/5/26 at 4:27 pm to yakster
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Apparently 1Chronicles 1:21 better tells us who caused David to take the census. But since you don’t believe in God, you don’t believe in the devil either, right?
I’ll take all your non-answers as you just not having any rational answer. At least you responded to this particular thing. You believe there is a malevolent deity you call “Satan” (proper noun) or “the devil”. So you understand that 2 Samuel literally says Yahweh incited David. And you understand 1 Chronicles literally says Satan incited David. So then you cherry pick - throwing 2 Samuel in the trash - in favor for the contradictory verse you like better. It’s irrational.
But in Judaism there is no contradiction. Just as in the book of Job, they believe 2 Samuel and 1 Chronicles are complementary because they believe Yahweh incited David by sending “a satan” to do his dirty work. So if you asked a modern day Jew, he would tell you Yahweh incited David through a satan.
You’re right in that I do not believe there is a real Yahweh nor a real malevolent supernatural evil deity.
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And if you don’t believe in God, why do you spend so much time studying scripture?
To help people break free from their delusions. People deserve to know the truth of their reality. The more people understand reality - the better we will be as a society.
I’m still hoping at some point you will tell me how those 70,000 Israelites and Achan’s children deserved to be massacred and brutally killed.
re: Has anyone considered that this execution debacle could be God's will?
Posted by Squirrelmeister on 10/4/26 at 9:44 am to FooManChoo
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I have not. I disagree with your usage of the word "innocent". God knows who is truly innocent and who is not, and since all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and all people are guilty before God and deserve death and hell, then no one is truly "innocent" in God's eyes, not even children.
You are one sick frick, Foo. :lol:
It’s your kind of mentality with psychotic delusions that can lead people to murder their own children.
:yack:
re: Opening Morning
Posted by Squirrelmeister on 10/3/26 at 7:12 pm to Tbone2
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2 of us got 5 this morning. Got overcast and wind picked up faster than expected. Not much in the way of acorns this year.
I got my limit but I had to work hard until about 9:45. They weren’t very active this morning, and it was very humid and no wind. Miserable weather really.
re: Has anyone considered that this execution debacle could be God's will?
Posted by Squirrelmeister on 10/3/26 at 6:52 pm to FooManChoo
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But yes, I can certainly say "I would never promote the killing of innocent babies".
Well that’s a lie. You previously have argued more times than I can count that killing innocent babies is good and morally acceptable when their parents worship other deities or idols.
re: Has anyone considered that this execution debacle could be God's will?
Posted by Squirrelmeister on 10/3/26 at 6:50 pm to yakster
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God told him not to take the census. David took a census. It’s not that hard.
Bro, read what 2 Samuel 24 states:
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1Again the anger of the LORD was kindled against Israel, and he incited David against them, saying, “Go, number Israel and Judah.”
You must be high or retarded. I don’t know how else you can say God told David not to take a census when it literally states God told David “Go, number Israel and Judah.”
But I’ve already given you that out and wasn’t trying to get you to comment on the 70,000 Israelites unfairly killed. Assume for a second David really did sin. So what? That is David’s sin. Now explain why brutally killing 70,000 innocent Israelites was “good”, moral, just, and consistently with objective morality and a divine loving nature. You can’t do it and you won’t do it.
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He is not bound yours or my thinking or sense of morality
Others argue this all time time. God can’t commit evil, so when he does commit evil, it’s not evil. :lol:
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You can twist things around to fit your narrative but that’s all you will ever have
Nope, I’m not twisting. I’m showing you your God committing evil atrocities and you say God’s morality is not bound to our sense of what is right and wrong. You’re twisting, not me.
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He is holy and loving and has my best interest in mind.
Was it in the best interest of Achan’s innocent sons and daughters that they be brutally stoned to death for their father stealing some trinkets belonging to no one?
re: Has anyone considered that this execution debacle could be God's will?
Posted by Squirrelmeister on 10/3/26 at 4:33 pm to FooManChoo
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All you've got is insults. You've been shown, time and time again, that you don't know what you're talking about. Keep calling names. It really shows your intellectual prowess.
You could have defended yourself saying “I would never promote the killing of innocent babies”. But that would be a lie.
re: Has anyone considered that this execution debacle could be God's will?
Posted by Squirrelmeister on 10/3/26 at 4:32 pm to FooManChoo
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Not true
Yes it’s true.
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Jesus didn’t rebuke the law, but time and time again, He upheld the law over and against the traditions of the Pharisees.
He rebuked the law.
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You can’t just make false claims like that. You need to back them up.
Here’s another:
38“You have heard that it was said, ‘An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.’ 39But I say to you, Do not resist the one who is evil. But if anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also.
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She was claimed to be caught in the act of adultery. How can one claim such a thing if there wasn’t another person participating in the sin?
It was possible for the woman to be caught in adultery while the man wasn’t. If the man doesn’t know she is married or betrothed, he can be innocent while she is guilty. I thought I explained this already. :lol:
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Im going off of the text and the Old Testament law. You are grasping for air (not even straws) by speculating beyond what is reasonable in the text, itself.
No, you piece of shite. You were the one originally speculating by claiming there was a guilty male party when it doesn’t say any such thing. You are the speculator.
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Jesus didn’t rebuke the law.
Jesus permitted work on the sabbath. He healed the sick (worked) on the sabbath. He said the kosher laws are bullshite and that there are no unclean foods. He rebuked the law.
ETA: and the beauty is that while he rebuked the law, he also upheld the law and told his followers the only way to have eternal life is to keep the law to every dot and tittle of the law but don’t stop there - keep it in spirit in addition to the letter of the law. Like just about everything in the bible, there are contradictory statements.
re: Has anyone considered that this execution debacle could be God's will?
Posted by Squirrelmeister on 10/3/26 at 12:30 pm to FooManChoo
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Federal representation: God, at times, judges groups based on their representative.
You would be the one to accept that evil as righteousness. After all, you’re a proponent of killing innocent babies as long as you believe their fathers were sinful. You’re a sick person. Sick in the head.
re: Has anyone considered that this execution debacle could be God's will?
Posted by Squirrelmeister on 10/3/26 at 12:29 pm to yakster
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Wow you’re really hanging your hat on that aren’t you.
Yeah are you going to answer the question or not?
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Was it God that killed them directly?
Moving the goalposts, eh? Yahweh sent the Canaanite deity of destruction, Deber, to do his dirty work for him. You could be a good Jew on Shabbat. You could get your little Shabbos Goy to flip the light switch for you and say “I didn’t do it directly, therefore I didn’t do it!”
:lol:
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No, it was an act of disobedience on David’s part, that he did something that God told him not to do.
What is the absolute frick are you talking about? David did exactly what Yahweh told him to do. Did you not read the story???????
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It’s the choices we make that affects us and those around us.
So what are you saying? That killing 70,000 innocent Israelites for the “sin” of obeying the word of Yahweh… wasn’t evil? That Achan’s innocent sons and daughters should have been brutally stoned to death? Tell me how that is “good” and moral and just and fair and righteous.
How about when David has 7 sons of Saul impaled on the mountain before the barley harvest to atone for the sin of Saul? God accepted that sacrifice and ended the famine. Explain how that was a righteous act. Explain how that act was compassionate and loving.
re: Has anyone considered that this execution debacle could be God's will?
Posted by Squirrelmeister on 10/3/26 at 12:21 pm to FooManChoo
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Since you are wanting to put your ignorance on full display again, I will help you out.
Well you’re full of shite. Jesus didn’t uphold the law. He rebuked the law. They believed everyone to be sinful, so there was no one without sin there to cast the first stone. The law says X, but Jesus says not X. It’s a common theme.
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The law required two things in this instance: first, that if a couple were caught in adultery, that both the man and the woman were to be put to death (Lev. 20:10), and second, that death penalty cases needed two or more witnesses, and that the witnesses, themselves, had to be the first ones to throw the stones (Deut. 7:6-7).
Well the story doesn’t contain any mention of a “couple”. Just a woman. I know it’s hard for you not to gin up details not in evidence, but try.
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They only brought the woman to be judged, not the man
Did you ever stop to think? Maybe this is a parable that wasn’t meant to be historical. After all, it’s in several places in the gospel of John in the oldest manuscripts and even in the gospel of Luke in an old manuscript. Maybe there was no guilty male party. Maybe the male she was with didn’t know she was married or betrothed. Nah you didn’t think. You never do.
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Instead of testing Jesus to see if He would keep the law, He turned it around on them to show that they would/could not keep it.
Well yes exactly. He rebuked the Torah. Jesus was not a fan obviously- at least not the version of Jesus in the gospel of John. Why do you insist Jesus kept the law when you admit Jesus rebuked the law?
re: Has anyone considered that this execution debacle could be God's will?
Posted by Squirrelmeister on 10/3/26 at 12:23 am to yakster
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No sense in going any further because anything I say you would refute so now that I know where you stand, I’ll just end it here.
Your non-answer is your answer. I take it as you admit that 70,000 innocents having to die because of the sin of one man is not a good, moral, just, or fair act. And that Achan’s sons and daughters shouldn’t have been stoned to death for what Achan did, as such an act is evil. This kind of question I asked you causes a blue screen of death in your cerebral cortex because the Bible says God is good and that he doesn’t do evil, even though it also says he is the creator of all evil and gives examples of his evil deeds.
re: Has anyone considered that this execution debacle could be God's will?
Posted by Squirrelmeister on 10/2/26 at 9:11 pm to yakster
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There’s the bottom line. You don’t believe in God. You pretty much said so
I didn’t “pretty much” say so. I did say so - that your deity is mythology.
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It amazes me how you quote so much scripture yet believe none of it.
I quote books and movies all the time. I don’t believe those fictional accounts are real historical events. I can quote the Lion King without having to believe uncle Scar really killed Mufasa in real life.
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It’s almost as if you’re trying to disprove scripture with scripture.
It goes past “almost”.
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Also, what you believe was a lie in that God told Adam and Eve they would die, is a spiritual death.
Mowt ta mut. Look up the Hebrew. In every single case in the Bible it meant a literal biological death. That includes Genesis 3.
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A life separated from Him, because they believed a lie from the devil. “ You shall not die”.
You are asserting that which has bo evidence. The Jews don’t believe the serpent was “the devil”. The text doesn’t indicate in any way that the serpent was “the devil”. The text calls the serpent a “beast of the field”. And the serpent told the truth - that Adam
And Eve would not die and that they would become like the gods knowing good and evil. What the does the scripture then say? That they immediately learned good from evil and didn’t die and lived 900 years. The serpent was the only one telling the truth in that mythological fairy tale.
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Yeah, spiritual death.
Insisting on that is just pure stupidity.
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One last question for you, are you an atheist?
Yes of course.
Ok are you going to ever attempt to answer why the 70,000 had to be killed by Yahweh after David’s sin, and why Achan’s sons and daughters had to be brutally murdered after his sin? How were those killings “good” and why did the creator of objective morality kill them and was it moral and just and fair?
re: Has anyone considered that this execution debacle could be God's will?
Posted by Squirrelmeister on 10/2/26 at 8:15 pm to FooManChoo
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You should probably study that passage a bit more. Jesus upheld the actual law.
No, he did not. You are stupid and you suck.
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Hint: Leviticus 20:10
He neither promoting killing the adulteress nor the adulterer.
You should get checked for dementia.
re: Has anyone considered that this execution debacle could be God's will?
Posted by Squirrelmeister on 10/2/26 at 8:13 pm to yakster
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So you think scripture contradicts itself?
It’s not simply that I think it contradicts itself. The evidence clearly indicates it does.
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It’s really funny that you use Adam and Eve as an example. No, they did not physically die, they did in fact live a long time, but not in the way God created them to. So yes, they indeed died a spiritual death as in their relationship with God.
That’s just made up nonsense. When this was written, there was nothing in Jewish theology that allowed a person to be alive without their spirit (their wind or breath). This “died in spirit” thing was created by Christian apologists, and isn’t indicative by the evidence. Yahweh said they would die in the day they ate the fruit. mowt ta mut. A physical death. But they didn’t die. Yahweh either lied or he made a mistake.
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There are plenty of other scripture that disproves that God is “evil” as you say.
Instead of making baseless assertions, why don’t you address the 70,000 that Yahweh killed as a result of David’s supposed sin or how about you address the morality of having Achan’s sons and daughters stoned because of his sin.
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Malachi 3:6 is an example that shows that God in fact does not change his mind.
Exodus 32:14
And the LORD repented of the evil which he thought to do unto his people.
I’m not trying to be a dick but dude you don’t know what you’re talking about.
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James 1:17. Same thing. It’s not cherry picking, it’s using verses that overwhelmingly proves that God isn’t someone who says “ Oh I made a mistake, let me backtrack and try something else”.
All you are referencing is the verses that say Yahweh doesn’t change his mind, while I can quote you verses where he literally changes his mind.
Jeremiah 18:8
If that nation, against whom I have pronounced, turn from their evil, I will repent of the evil that I thought to do unto them.
Yahweh’s words supposedly - telling that he will and can change his mind (and that he does evil acts).
Here’s another example of Yahweh regretting an action of his - he admits he made a mistake:
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35And Samuel did not see Saul again until the day of his death, but Samuel grieved over Saul. And the LORD regretted that he had made Saul king over Israel.
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He wouldn’t be much of a God if that were the case.
I agree. He makes mistakes. At least - his character in the Jewish mythology makes mistakes. Yes he isn’t an all powerful or all knowing deity.
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He proves thoughout time that He is all wise and all knowing
The scripture proves the opposite.
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I’m sorry you don’t have confidence in Him,
Well I don’t believe in his existence.
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that you believe He made mistakes and then tries to fix those mistakes.
I don’t have to believe it. I just have to read it in the Bible where it Yahweh regrets and repents and promises to not do evil again several times over.
re: US judge rules law criminalizing noncitizen voting is unconstitutional
Posted by Squirrelmeister on 10/2/26 at 6:00 pm to Athis
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David Seymour Leibowitz, a Biden-appointed judge in Florida, just ruled that laws criminalizing non-citizen voting in U.S. elections are unconstitutional.
re: Has anyone considered that this execution debacle could be God's will?
Posted by Squirrelmeister on 10/2/26 at 5:35 pm to FooManChoo
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God’s Word in the Bible teaches that there is nothing sinful about just administration of the death penalty
You idiot :lol:
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1but Jesus went to the Mount of Olives. 2Early in the morning he came again to the temple. All the people came to him, and he sat down and taught them. 3The scribes and the Pharisees brought a woman who had been caught in adultery, and placing her in the midst 4they said to him, “Teacher, this woman has been caught in the act of adultery. 5Now in the Law, Moses commanded us to stone such women. So what do you say?” 6This they said to test him, that they might have some charge to bring against him. Jesus bent down and wrote with his finger on the ground. 7And as they continued to ask him, he stood up and said to them, “Let him who is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone at her.”
re: Has anyone considered that this execution debacle could be God's will?
Posted by Squirrelmeister on 10/2/26 at 9:55 am to yakster
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And trying to pick a scripture to confuse people and take it out of its meaning, is the very same thing Satan did when trying to get Jesus to turn from God.
Dude, can you be serious? Can you answer the issues I raised?
What did the 70,000 Israelites do for Yahweh to kill them as punishment for what David did as a direct result of David doing exactly what it says Yahweh commanded him to do?
Presume David was guilty of sin for a minute. Let’s say David shouldn’t have done what Yahweh commanded him to do. David’s fault. David sinned. Why is the punishment that 70,000 Israelites had to be murdered? Was that fair? Was it just? Did the 70,000 Israelites deserve to be killed? Why does it say Yahweh repented?
Achan shouldn’t have took the bling that belonged to Yahweh. Achan sinned. Let’s argue that Achan should have been stoned for his sin, in perfect alignment with the scripture and God’s loving nature. Ok. Now. What about Achan’s sons, daughters, and livestock. Why was it “good”, and fair and just and consistent with God’s objective standard of morality to brutally murder Achan’s sons, daughters, and animals that had nothing to do with the crime? If it wasn’t “good”, then it had to have been evil.
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Cherry picking scripture? Here’s another that backs up my first one, James 1:13 God cannot be tempted by evil, and He himself does not tempt anyone.
Yes yes you accuse me of cherry picking (yes I pick cherries sometimes) and then you go ahead and cherry pick and accuse me of picking cherries. We’re both guilty of that. I admit it. Why can’t you admit it too? You are literally picking things that contradict other things in scripture, but ignoring the ones you don’t like and clinging to the ones you do like. I’m trying to get you to think… by pointing out all the evil in the Bible done by Yahweh. The Bible also says Yahweh cannot lie, but in the 3rd chapter he lies to Adam and Eve and after they eat the fruit of the tree of knowledge, they don’t die that very day (mot ta mut). The serpent was the only one telling the truth.
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You know ,being the biblical scholar that you are, are very aware that the original word used in Samuel is “ra”, which is not what we describe as evil, but rather define as calamity, trouble, and or disasters.
From Strong’s concordance:
ra': Evil, bad, wicked, harmful, unpleasant
Word Origin: [from H7489 (????? - To be evil)]
Here it (Hebrew word Ra’) used in Isaiah 32:7 for comparison, and how it is translated:
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7As for the scoundrel—his devices are evil; he plans wicked schemes to ruin the poor with lying words, even when the plea of the needy is right.
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I just wonder how someone can have so much knowledge and have no idea who our loving God is.
The more knowledge one has on the subject matter, the more likely one is to understand it is mythology.
So Yakster, you have claimed the Lord cannot commit evil. I have shown you where the Lord specifically states he creates evil, and I’ve shown you how he brags about giving the Israelites orders to sacrifice their children in fire to him to defile them, and I’ve shown you how he has killed innocent people and then repented of that evil. Actions speak louder than words. The Yahweh character commits evil acts despite other scriptures saying he cannot commit evil. Do you have a reasonable, logical response backed up by evidence?
re: Has anyone considered that this execution debacle could be God's will?
Posted by Squirrelmeister on 10/2/26 at 6:40 am to yakster
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You come out of hiding to trash the Lord I see. Psalms 5:4- You are not a God who delights in wickedness, no evil can dwell with you.
It was BrodyDad who said sometimes the LORD did things that don’t make sense.
The Psalmist was heaping praise at Yahweh - probably calling him a God who doesn’t delight in wickedness to manipulate Yahweh to stop being wicked and doing evil. Of course you want to pick and choose your scripture and reject other scriptures which conflict with your dogmas.
Isaiah 45:7 - Yahweh says he creates evil.
In 2 Samuel 24, Yahweh is said to repent for killing 70,000 Israelites as punishment for David obeying him. Even Yahweh was disgusted by his own evil deed.
In Ezekiel 20:25-26 Yahweh brags about how evil he is. He gave them evil laws to commit child sacrifice to Yahweh, which they did - he caused them to burn their firstborn children to defile them so they would know that he is Yahweh. Sick.
When Achan kept some of the loot for himself - a Babylonian robe, 200 shekels of silver and 50 shekels of gold - after the divine command to kill every man woman child and baby in Jericho, Yahweh made the Israelites stone Achan to death. Oh he also made the Israelites stone all of Achan’s sons, daughters and livestock. What did the sons and daughters and livestock have to do with Achan keeping some loot? Nothing. Yahweh commanded those innocents be brutally murdered. That’s evil man. And actions speak louder than words.
I ain’t trashing your Yahweh character. The authors of your mythology already trashed him. I’m just pointing it out.
re: Has anyone considered that this execution debacle could be God's will?
Posted by Squirrelmeister on 10/1/26 at 1:46 pm to TenWheelsForJesus
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This story is also recounted in 1 Chronicles 21
Chronicles is an attempted re-write aka revision of Samuel/Kings material by a Levitical scribe in the meat of the Persian period meant to re-write Jewish history. Joke’s on him because the Samuel/Kings (likely written just before or just after the return from Babylonian exile) source material was preserved.
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It says "And Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel." God didn't order it.
All this is made up mythology. But in 2 Samuel 24 it says Yahweh incited David. You do the same as the others - scrap the bits of the bible you don’t like in favor of the verses you like. A picker and a chooser. But the Satan from 1 Chronicles 21 and the Yahweh from 2 Samuel 24 could be the same character. A satan was an adversary or accuser, and it was pretty often that Yahweh was accusing Israel of wrongdoing.
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Joab was the one who took the census. 1 Chronicles 21:6 says that Joab did not count Levi and Benjamin because "the king's word was abominable to Joab."
Just to be clear - that is mythology. The chronicler wanted to embellish the story so he took the 800k of Israel and 500k of Judah and remade the numbers as 1100k and 470k respectively. Also in 2 Samuel all the tribes are counted while in Chronicles the author says they did not count the Levites and Benjaminites.
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Verse 7 then continues, "And God was displeased with this thing; therefore he smote Israel." Looking further, Exodus 30:12 lays out a rule for census taking so that "there will be no plague among them, when thou numberest them." Since plague was the punishment, failure to obey this law could be a reason for their suffering.
You’re not making sense. Exodus 30:12 is talking about a disease. The census myths talk of Yahweh sending Deber (a minor Canaanite deity of destruction) to smite them. Your Bible probably translates him as “a pestilence”. Check Habakkuk 3:5 when Deber was a demonic soldier walking with Yahweh on a path of destruction. In Canaanite literature, Deber was a minor deity of destruction. In 1 Chronicles 21, Deber is described as an angel of destruction working for Yahweh. A plague as described in Exodus 30:12 is not even an option in the David-census myths.
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So, no, Israel was not punished because David did what God told him. The Bible does not give the exact reason, but you are only looking at part of the story and then making invalid inferences
A plain reading indicates I am correct, unless you think the divinely inspired word of God leaves out key and crucial details to the point the author was incompetent in the telling of the story. The plain reading was that David’s sin was the act of conducting a census, and mentions nothing of forgetting to collect a ransom payment from each person counted.
re: Has anyone considered that this execution debacle could be God's will?
Posted by Squirrelmeister on 10/1/26 at 11:11 am to TFH
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In short, yes. It is God’s will that we all be tempted and have horrible trials and tribulations. Narrow is the path to redemption.
Well that’s more of that evil he does. I wouldn’t put a fat juicy steak on the coffee table just to temp the dog to eat it, and then beat the shite out of the dog when he ate the steak. It’s morally reprehensible.
theballguy said God is sovereign and everything happens according to God’s will, so he obviously thinks free will doesn’t exist, but he has to realize that if all the evil shite in the world happens because God wills it, then God is evil.
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