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re: Do Illegals commit more crimes by percentage than US Citizens?

Posted on 8/7/26 at 3:33 pm to
Posted by timdonaghyswhistle
Member since Jul 2018
21354 posts
Posted on 8/7/26 at 3:33 pm to
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So a US citizen is twice as likely to commit a violent crime or property crime than an illegal. Is this surprising to you?


I know how we can make that % even lower.
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
17482 posts
Posted on 8/7/26 at 3:35 pm to
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So a US citizen is twice as likely to commit a violent crime or property crime than an illegal.


False - Google is being fed information from biased leftist sources. All truthful information is being withheld or discarded as conspiracy theories.

AI was invented to be a fake impartial source because people know better than to believe the MSM.

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Is this surprising to you?
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
118013 posts
Posted on 8/7/26 at 3:35 pm to
They commit more crime in Europe. Maybe we just have nicer illegals.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
48286 posts
Posted on 8/7/26 at 3:38 pm to
Heritage blew this lie to shite a decade ago.
LINK

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According to a recent Associated Press article, “multiple studies have concluded that immigrants are less likely to commit crime than native-born U.S. citizens.” But the issue isn’t non-citizens who are in this country legally, and who must abide by the law to avoid having their visas revoked or their application for citizenship refused. The real issue is the crimes committed by illegal aliens. And in that context, the claim is quite misleading, because the “multiple studies” on crimes committed by “immigrants” — including a 2014 study by a professor from the University of Massachusetts, which is the only one cited in the article — combine the crime rates of both citizens and non-citizens, legal and illegal.

That isn’t the only problem with the study. Instead of using official crime data, it uses “self-reported criminal offending and country of birth information.” For obvious reasons, there is little incentive for anyone, let alone criminal aliens, to self-report “delinquent and criminal involvement.” When it comes to self-reporting criminal activity, some respondents will, no doubt, exaggerate. Others will flat out lie. Furthermore, many respondents will likely not disclose if they are a non-citizen out of fear of discovery and deportation.

These claims overlook disturbing actual data on crimes committed by criminal aliens. For example, the Government Accountability Office released two unsettling reports in 2005 on criminal aliens who are in prison for committing crimes in the United States, and issued an updated report in 2011.

The first report (GAO-05-337R) found that criminal aliens (both legal and illegal) make up 27 percent of all federal prisoners. Yet according to the Center for Immigration Studies, non-citizens are only about nine percent of the nation’s adult population. Thus, judging by the numbers in federal prisons alone, non-citizens commit federal crimes at three times the rate of citizens.

The findings in the second report (GAO-05-646R) are even more disturbing. This report looked at the criminal histories of 55,322 aliens that “entered the country illegally and were still illegally in the country at the time of their incarceration in federal or state prison or local jail during fiscal year 2003.” Those 55,322 illegal aliens had been arrested 459,614 times, an average of 8.3 arrests per illegal alien, and had committed almost 700,000 criminal offenses, an average of roughly 12.7 offenses per illegal alien.

Out of all of the arrests, 12 percent were for violent crimes such as murder, robbery, assault and sex-related crimes; 15 percent were for burglary, larceny, theft and property damage; 24 percent were for drug offenses; and the remaining offenses were for DUI, fraud, forgery, counterfeiting, weapons, immigration, and obstruction of justice.

The 2011 GAO report wasn’t much different. It looked at 251,000 criminal aliens in federal, state, and local prisons and jails. Those aliens were arrested nearly 1.7 million times for close to three million criminal offenses. Sixty-eight percent of those in federal prison and 66 percent of those in state prisons were from Mexico. Their offenses ranged from homicide and kidnapping to drugs, burglary, and larceny.

Once again, these statistics are not fully representative of crimes committed by illegal aliens: This report only reflects the criminal histories of aliens who were in prison. If there were a way to include all crimes committed by criminal aliens, the numbers would likely be higher because prosecutors often will agree to drop criminal charges against an illegal alien if they are assured that immigration authorities will deport the alien.

The GAO reports also highlight another important flaw in the study referenced by the Associated Press. It uses survey data from a nationally representative sample of people living in the United States. Thus, the study does not take into account some potentially key factors highlighted in the GAO reports: that criminal aliens from Mexico disproportionately make up incarcerations (GAO-05-337R) and that most arrests are made in the three border states of California, Texas, and Arizona (GAO-05-646R and GAO-11-187).

Every crime committed by an illegal alien is one that would not have occurred if that alien wasn’t in the United States in the first place.

One 2001 study that does take country of origin and geographic concentration factors into account found that Mexican immigrants “commit between 3.5 and 5 times as many crimes as the average native.” It also pointed out the large concentration of Mexican immigrants in the Southwest, which indicates that a nation-wide sample may not represent what is happening in states with a large concentration of criminal aliens.

Although there are no perfect measures of crimes committed by criminal aliens, it has certainly not been substantiated, as the Associated Press article states, that illegal aliens commit crimes at a lesser rate than either native-born or naturalized American citizens. In fact, existing data seems to show that the opposite is likely true.

But we do know one thing for sure. Every crime committed by an illegal alien is one that would not have occurred if that alien wasn’t in the United States in the first place. That includes the hundreds of thousands of crimes committed by the 55,322 illegal aliens in the GAO study who victimized countless numbers of Americans.



Posted by themunch
bottom of the list
Member since Jan 2007
72337 posts
Posted on 8/7/26 at 3:39 pm to
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Their crimes are also undocumented.


Sally nose stuff
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
14261 posts
Posted on 8/7/26 at 3:39 pm to
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Do Illegals commit more crimes by percentage than US Citizens?


Doesn’t matter. The broke the law by coming here, and by definition every crime they commit is one that should never have happened. Do you have any idea how many American citizens have lost their lives at the hands of illegal invaders. To say nothing of rape, theft, scamming, etc.
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
11447 posts
Posted on 8/7/26 at 3:39 pm to
google full of poop
Posted by Captain Rumbeard
Member since Jan 2014
7422 posts
Posted on 8/7/26 at 3:40 pm to
I'd love to know how they got the numbers. Because that sounds like bullshite to me.
Posted by Cregg
Orange Beach
Member since Jul 2017
2568 posts
Posted on 8/7/26 at 3:40 pm to
Let's do driving around without car insurance
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55767 posts
Posted on 8/7/26 at 3:40 pm to
I dont give a schit. Illegal... remove them. American citizen commits a crime.... wait for it... ARREST THEM.


This is not the gotcha you think it is.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
76980 posts
Posted on 8/7/26 at 3:43 pm to
Ask it do... illegals take jobs that citizens do?
Are these out of work citizens more likely to commit a crime than the working illegal?
Posted by LaMigra
Member since Nov 2022
2790 posts
Posted on 8/7/26 at 3:45 pm to
Yes they do

They break the law everyday they are here
Posted by Chorizo chang
Statesboro
Member since Feb 2022
859 posts
Posted on 8/7/26 at 3:46 pm to
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Is this surprising to you?


Not really. When you zoom out, of 20-30 million people, I’d guess that gangbangers are a relatively small percentage. The rest paid their life savings, endured a harrowing mule experience, often getting raped to pieces the whole way here. Not to even mention often leaving towns where seeing human heads on spikes has lost its shock value

Only a total 3rd world animal suffers all that then arrives and acts a fricking fool. Which happens obviously, but I wouldn’t assume the % would be super high
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
48286 posts
Posted on 8/7/26 at 3:46 pm to
It is complete bullshite. They use a ton of self-reporting (because blue states do nothing to track illegals and are even worse at reporting crime stats to the FBI), they water the numbers down with legal migrants and temporary visa holders (who follow the law), they ignore repeat offenses (which is a massive issue among illegals), and they compare "arrests" (not convictions or incarceration rates) because police aren't trying to do the work of ICE on a daily basis. Cops aren't arresting people for being here illegally and in blue states, they aren't even allowed to ask. They also give legal credibility to these bullshite asylum claims that come AFTER the migrant has entered illegally - so that illegal entry doesn't get counted as a crime.
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
21327 posts
Posted on 8/7/26 at 3:48 pm to
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No, undocumented immigrants do not commit more crimes by percentage than native-born U.S. citizens. Extensive empirical research and historical data show that undocumented immigrants have lower arrest and incarceration rates than U.S.-born citizens.


By pure definition they've all committed crime(s). Unless the AI generated site is replacing some off the wall definition of "illegal aliens" with something else.

Being "arrested and incarcerated" would possibly come after the fact they've all committed crime.
Posted by Hennigan
Member since Jan 2020
1479 posts
Posted on 8/7/26 at 3:48 pm to
Who cares?

They are illegal. Send them back.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
110566 posts
Posted on 8/7/26 at 3:49 pm to
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Vacherie, you’re missing the point


VOR, you’re missing a fully functional brain.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
129672 posts
Posted on 8/7/26 at 3:49 pm to
They just wanna pick some scrawberries, baw.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
129672 posts
Posted on 8/7/26 at 3:50 pm to
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Because that sounds like bullshite to me.


That’s only because it is bullshite.
Posted by Tigergreg
Metairie
Member since Feb 2005
27436 posts
Posted on 8/7/26 at 3:52 pm to
It does not matter. If you are here illegally, there would be zero crimes by them if they were not here in the first place. Like it should be.
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