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re: After finding out the longshoremen make 200k with overtime...and their mob boss 1 million+
Posted on 10/3/24 at 3:05 pm to Lightning
Posted on 10/3/24 at 3:05 pm to Lightning
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Harold Daggett made a gross salary of $728,694 as President of the ILA last year. The Executive Vice President of the ILA made $388,422 in gross salary. Guess who the Executive VP is?
I’m not talking about the union execs. I’m talking about the longshoremen.
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33% make more than $200k in the NY/NJ ports as well. Check page 19 of the Waterfront Commission report LINK
So you’re only pulling salary numbers from the highest cost of living port on the east coast and using that to represent the other dozens of ports? Sounds logical.
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Check out pages 23-32 of that Waterfront Commission report where they run through the criminals and organized crime links of the union.
Cool. Unions are shite. I don’t recall talking about ethics of unions. We’re talking about how much Longshoremen make.
Locally….they're starting between $19-22 an hour and caps out around $40. Let’s focus on the subject matter.
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 3:05 pm to BugAC
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Name a job that offers 77% raises in 1 years time.
I can name someone who can’t read for shite.
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BugAC
Posted on 10/3/24 at 3:07 pm to BugAC
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Name a job that offers 77% raises in 1 years time.
Dont know any and that includes longshoremen
Posted on 10/3/24 at 3:20 pm to Tigahs24Seven
I'm always in the mood for union busting, but this one seems like a matter of national security.
Bust away. Biden should give them 48 hours and anybody who doesn't report back is fired immediately. Activate the National Guard to take over the ports until it's re-staffed 100%.
Bust away. Biden should give them 48 hours and anybody who doesn't report back is fired immediately. Activate the National Guard to take over the ports until it's re-staffed 100%.
Posted on 10/3/24 at 3:35 pm to pankReb
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I can name someone who can’t read for shite.
You haven't posted any facts or statistics. If you know more than everyone else, maybe you should post it? Or you can be a pompous arse with no qualifications for acting like one.
Posted on 10/3/24 at 3:37 pm to BugAC
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You haven't posted any facts or statistics.
I can see how you would think that seeing as how you are completely unfamiliar with the terms "facts" and "statistics".
What I've posted in this thread is absolutely factual. You should try using Google. It's a pretty big deal.
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If you know more than everyone else, maybe you should post it? Or you can be a pompous arse with no qualifications for acting like one.
Please provide a link saying they wanted 77% raise in only 1 year.
Posted on 10/3/24 at 3:38 pm to roadGator
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Silliness
I have experienced a CEO at hospital pulling back a $3 dollar raise for ICU nurses after claiming the hospital was not profitable that year. A investigation determined the Hospital made 15 million profit that year and the CEO gave himself a 1 million dollar bonus on top of his 5 million dollar salary. Within 6 months the Hospital had voted for a union and the Nurses received a $5 dollar raise. Like I said, FAFO.
Posted on 10/3/24 at 3:39 pm to Tigahs24Seven
I don't see why ports in the right to work states don't just say screw you guys we wont be renewing the contract, fire the union guys, rehire the scabs and automate to cover the difference. I know that makes it hard to do business in the Union states, but just stop shipping to those ports.
Posted on 10/3/24 at 3:39 pm to John Barron
Just dropping in to say, frick unions.
Posted on 10/3/24 at 3:41 pm to pankReb
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So you’re only pulling salary numbers from the highest cost of living port on the east coast and using that to represent the other dozens of ports? Sounds logical.
I'm replying to you where you said this:
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That’s how much they make on the west coast. Those ports are still open. Those longshoremen are part of a different Union.
So yes, pointing out that an east coast port with a large number of workers also has a third of its workers making more than $200k does seem relevant.
What does cost of living have to do with anything? The master contract covers the workers from Maine to Texas. If the union didn't see fit to negotiate different pay rates for different cost of living areas, that's their own issue. Sounds like it makes more sense to be a longshoreman in a low COL making the same money as a longshoreman in a high COL.
Posted on 10/3/24 at 3:42 pm to TDTOM
frick greedy pig CEOs
Posted on 10/3/24 at 3:46 pm to John Barron
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always love uneducated post like these. Over the last 20 years CEO pay has went from 1 million a year to 30 million plus a year. Why the workers pay was stagnant.
You want CEO pay then go start a fricking company...this is AMERICA...
you have everything at your disposal to do whatever you want. Quit bitching at the people who provide your job and benefits and go do what they did...I am sick of the the whining and blame culture...if you you have a bottom layer job it's YOUR fault..Do something.
Posted on 10/3/24 at 3:47 pm to Giantkiller
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I'm always in the mood for union busting, but this one seems like a matter of national security.
MAGA needs the Union baws to win… just saying
This isn’t a normal negotiation with the visibility it’s getting… and every Union everywhere is watching the rhetoric from both sides. The brotherhood truly extends across the country and across all industries
This post was edited on 10/3/24 at 3:53 pm
Posted on 10/3/24 at 3:49 pm to John Barron
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I have experienced a CEO at hospital pulling back a $3 dollar raise for ICU nurses after claiming the hospital was not profitable that year. A investigation determined the Hospital made 15 million profit that year and the CEO gave himself a 1 million dollar bonus on top of his 5 million dollar salary. Within 6 months the Hospital had voted for a union and the Nurses received a $5 dollar raise. Like I said, FAFO.
The OT: Unions no longer serve a purpose. I wouldn’t join a union because I want to negotiate for myself based upon my own ability.
Also the OT: They should disband the union because there’s plenty of non union workers that would accept those jobs for lower wages.
Posted on 10/3/24 at 3:54 pm to BlackAdam
quote:I wish this wasn't the case, but because of NY and the vast amount of tonnage that enters there that's not practical. All the other ports combined can't make up for NY (which is a multitude of port facilities).
I don't see why ports in the right to work states don't just say screw you guys we wont be renewing the contract, fire the union guys, rehire the scabs and automate to cover the difference. I know that makes it hard to do business in the Union states, but just stop shipping to those ports.
the problem is NY is a closed shop state. You either have to bust the union, at which time Holchul will do the reverse of DeSantis- bring in the guard and NY AG James to force port operators to accept the union deal, or they have to accept the deal.
One thing I haven't seen mentioned (seems to be intentionally avoided) is the relationship between security and automation. Ports are most definitely a national security focus point and automation would assist LEO and DHS in providing that security.
Posted on 10/3/24 at 3:56 pm to John Barron
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I learned long ago during the housing bubble in 2008 most people are idiots
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pointed out some of are great janitors
Every fricking time
Posted on 10/3/24 at 3:58 pm to Lightning
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So yes, pointing out that an east coast port
1(one) east coast port. There are 14 ports currently on strike. If you can show me even half of the rest making anything close to that....then I'll conceed.
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does seem relevant.
Not when taking into consideration that's only 1 of 14 ports.
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What does cost of living have to do with anything?
Are you actually asking what cost of living has to do with salaries?
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The master contract covers the workers from Maine to Texas
That is false. There are local ILA chapters and each have their own pay scale. The President of ILA970 makes $170k/year. Are you arguing that the field workers are making more than him? Or are you just not aware that the contract you're referring is ONLY for that local ILA chapter and that there actually isn't a "master contract" which blankets the entire East Coast and Gulf states? I'm going for that last part.
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Sounds like it makes more sense to be a longshoreman in a low COL making the same money as a longshoreman in a high COL.
You're right....it would.....if they all make the same....but they don't.
This post was edited on 10/3/24 at 4:00 pm
Posted on 10/3/24 at 4:00 pm to John Barron
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You might be correct. But CEO pay going from 1 million to 30 million plus is even more outrageous. So I believe in order to get fair treatment so times you have to resort to outrageous tactics
The former CEO of the Port of New Orleans, Brandy D. Christian, was paid $350,000 annually. When Christian left the role, the Port of New Orleans board engaged a consulting firm to lead the search for a new CEO.
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John Barron
Don't jump in a thread spouting bullshite. Just remain silent little boy.
Posted on 10/3/24 at 4:00 pm to Tigahs24Seven
This has been a crooked group for decades.
Posted on 10/3/24 at 4:03 pm to reggierayreb
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John Barron
Isn’t he the clown that made the post about Israel being afraid to respond to Iran’s missle attack?
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