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re: After finding out the longshoremen make 200k with overtime...and their mob boss 1 million+

Posted on 10/3/24 at 4:41 pm to
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 4:41 pm to
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The CEO resigned
Your argument is CEOs are overpaid. I presume by "CEO," you're referring to the lead hospital administrator. If so, yes, they are often overpaid. Does that mean we should equally overpay the workforce?
Posted by Lightning
Texas
Member since May 2014
3118 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 4:43 pm to
Another reddit longshoreman letting the mask slip:

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I was hired 3 years ago and work at one of the busiest pier in NJ. I guess I was hired at ther right time cause most of ther time I have to beg for a day off.

You may make more than a just hired longshoreman, but you have to realize the outside of 8am and 5pm, it's all OT at time and a half. You get 3 meal hours a day at double time. Weekends are time and a half.

You don't pay for your full benefits, which is a $20k plan. You get 14 or 16 paid holidays (can't remember the exact number).

Two days a month you can just not show up to work... not sure where else you can get that.. You don't need any education really and driving a machine isn't rocket science.

You get a container check every years. The partial one was 9k this year, the full was 24k, before taxes.

We're the only port with a blow system. So really if I have a 16 hour day, I work a third of those hours but get paid for 16. Depending on the job you're doing, the blows are great! In the hole, you work 6 and rest for 6, but you're paid for 12. Usually a hole job is 22 hours a day, do the math. Oh and out of those 22 hours, you worked about 12 and only got regular pay for 7 hours, the rest is OT or double time.

Cruise terminals and cars are a bit different. They don't have blows. At a cruise terminal though, you can make a lot just in tips. If you hustle, easily an extra $150 in your pocket. Cars has a 15 min break in the morning and one in the afternoon. But it's not hard work either..

We're not like the west coast where you have the perform every job. Here you're either hired as a longshoreman, a lasher, a checker or a mechanic. A longshoreman will never do a lasher's job.

This is by far the easiest job I've ever had for the most money.



Posted by Tigahs24Seven
Charlie Kirk's America
Member since Nov 2007
15011 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 4:45 pm to
OK, John Barron...I get it, and I have been a little hard on my Nursing Brother....but before I leave you alone, a little more info...
If your CEO triggered you...this ought to make you vomit...in more ways than one.
The highest paid CEO in the hospital industry is a female...who was born a male....and makes 38 million a year.
Posted by John Barron
The Mar-a-Lago Club
Member since Sep 2024
17101 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 4:47 pm to
I have nothing against CEOs making money. I do have a problem with CEOs who take away a $3/hrs raise claiming the hospital made no profit that year. It turns out the hospital made 15 million and the CEO gave himself a million dollar bonus. So I have a problem with lying greedy human beings.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138920 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 4:55 pm to
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It turns out the hospital made 15 million and the CEO gave himself a million dollar bonus. So I have a problem with lying greedy human beings.
But you are extrapolating that to CEOs in other industries. Then extrapolating further that 1/3 of NY Longshoremen should make more than $350K/yr. That is simply a bridge too far.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
25893 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 5:02 pm to
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gave himself a million dollar bonus.


Pretty sure he can’t give himself a bonus any time he wants.
Posted by John Barron
The Mar-a-Lago Club
Member since Sep 2024
17101 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 5:09 pm to
In my younger years I started off not liking unions because I believed everyone working hard together and sharing in the success is how to best create a good work environment. Unfortunately my experience over 15 years showed this was not the reality. CEOs will do everything in their power to not share the wealth. I could never walk onto a hospital floor shaking Nurses hands then turn around and lie about the hospital profit while giving myself a 1 million dollar bonus. I don't have that in me
Posted by pankReb
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Member since Mar 2009
73081 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 5:19 pm to
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You have posted multiple times on this thread but provided ZERO links to any of your claims.


Holy shite do you ask people to hold your hand while trying to cross the road? I’ve given you enough information to look it up yourself.

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So how about you provide those local ILA chapters' pay scales?


All of this is so fricking easy to find. how are you able to find that contract but still be so completely helpless figuring out anything else?
Posted by pankReb
Defending National Champs Fan
Member since Mar 2009
73081 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 5:20 pm to
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No. You didn't find where I "got that number from." I "got that number from" ...


Keep reading the thread and you’ll see where this has been addressed.
Posted by BrohemAlem11
Ratchet City, LA
Member since Oct 2014
13815 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 7:38 pm to
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You act like they wouldn’t be automated if they didn’t fight for those wages


You can ask for no automation, you can ask for higher wages...but you sure as frick can't ask for both.

Was it coming either way....probably.... but they sure as frick sped it up
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61407 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 7:54 pm to
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Your argument is CEOs are overpaid. I presume by "CEO," you're referring to the lead hospital administrator. If so, yes, they are often overpaid. Does that mean we should equally overpay the workforce?


I would rather an overpaid workforce than an overpaid CEO. Overpaid CEO’s have only made healthcare worse for everyone.
Posted by roadGator
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Member since Feb 2009
157830 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 8:11 pm to
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Overpaid CEO’s have only made healthcare worse for everyone.


Link?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138920 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 8:13 pm to
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I would rather an overpaid workforce than an overpaid CEO
Yep.
But would you rather foot the bill for that workforce?
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
139443 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 8:17 pm to
Fire them all and hire new workers to start next week
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61407 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 8:52 pm to
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But would you rather foot the bill for that workforce?


Who is footing the bill for the CEOs?
Posted by ChatGPT of LA
Member since Mar 2023
6330 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 8:55 pm to
Think about it, they don't do shite. Machines do it all, they just watch.
Automation is here.
Someone will build an Automation pot and sink them. Just watch
Posted by Honkus
Member since Aug 2005
57974 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 8:58 pm to
Of the top 50 most automated/efficient ports in the world, how many does the US have?


You guessed it.. a whopping ZERO
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
143816 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 9:01 pm to
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Overpaid CEO’s have only made healthcare worse for everyone.


Politicians have made healthcare worse for everyone not CEO's.

Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138920 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 9:05 pm to
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Who is footing the bill for the CEOs?
Generally even an overpaid CEO's draw is dwarfed by the general payroll. So the "footing" is dwarfed.
Posted by td1
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
3177 posts
Posted on 10/4/24 at 8:03 am to
There is a huge gap between the supply and demand for qualified CEOs.

I can say with a 100% certainty nobody is tying up their investment money in a company with a shite CEO who is overpaying employees with investors dividends. Check your 401K, if you are making money, it is because of some “overpaid” CEO.

When you retire and start collecting that money, it’s because some overpaid CEO made you that money instead of paying forklift John your retirement. So I encourage anyone bitching about the horrible overpaid CEOs to atone for your own sins and give forklift John everything from your 401k except what you contributed. It’s a damn shame forklift John isn’t making 200.000 a year bc you are stealing his pay raise for your retirement. You can also invest your retirement in a company that doesn’t make a profit, that way forklift John can get his 200,000 a year pay, not sure you are going to be able to retire that way, but forklift John is doing pretty well and you will have a clear conscious.

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