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re: Gymnastics - Simone Biles dominant again
Posted on 8/2/24 at 7:09 am to TeddyPadillac
Posted on 8/2/24 at 7:09 am to TeddyPadillac
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Then why didn’t she just say that?
Why hide behind “mental health” excuse?
She did say that.
The Twisties are mental. They are mental health related. It wasn't an excuse. It was THE reason she had to step down.
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Posted on 8/2/24 at 7:19 am to Dawgsontop34
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I feel like anyone who hates her because of her attitude in Tokyo should be forced to watch her Netflix doc.
I don't hate her. She is a competitor who has won glory for herself and for the United States. She is one of the greatest athletes to ever compete in her sport. However, two things can still be true at once: she can be one of the greatest Olympians who ever lived while also succumbing to the moment in 2021. And that's okay. There's no shame in it as the Olympics can be stressful on any athlete. It's the constant excuse-making for her that I have a problem with.
This post was edited on 8/2/24 at 7:21 am
Posted on 8/2/24 at 8:02 am to RollTide1987
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And that's okay. There's no shame in it as the Olympics can be stressful on any athlete
TD Thread from last year
Well you are disagreeing with yourself
Posted on 8/2/24 at 8:41 am to RollTide1987
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It's the constant excuse-making for her that I have a problem with.
Her having the Twisties isn't an excuse and never has been .
Quit being obtuse
Posted on 8/2/24 at 8:45 am to RollTide1987
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That said…she still quit on her team three years ago, blaming stress, then retroactively claiming it was the twisties when people started criticizing her withdrawal.
Posted on 8/2/24 at 9:16 am to Dawgsontop34
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Well you are disagreeing with yourself
It's okay now because she came back and redeemed herself in my eyes. The woman quit under pressure when her team needed her the most. That's not okay. However, what is okay is the fact that she came back three years later, overcame adversity (see her injury midway through the competition), and enshrouded herself with glory as a result. She clearly spent the last three years not just working on her craft but also working on mental toughness.
That is to be applauded. Three years ago she probably would have dropped out of the competition after injuring herself. But the 2024 version of Simone Biles put team and country above herself, much like Kerri Scrugs in 1996.
This post was edited on 8/2/24 at 9:19 am
Posted on 8/2/24 at 9:19 am to POTUS2024
must be some sad mofos on this board to push a biles thread to 7 pages...sheesh get a life
Posted on 8/2/24 at 9:27 am to RollTide1987
quote:Do you feel the same way when a football player quits on his team after tearing his ACL?
The woman quit under pressure when her team needed her the most.
Posted on 8/2/24 at 9:40 am to RollTide1987
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The woman quit under pressure when her team needed her the most.
So what if she had broken her neck or worse, became a paraplegic b/c she didn't "quit" when it was clear that she wasn't in her right mental state? Would you have applauded that?
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Kerri Scrugs
Jesus Christ.
Posted on 8/2/24 at 9:49 am to lsupride87
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Do you feel the same way when a football player quits on his team after tearing his ACL?
Absolutely not. However, I do feel the same way when a player removes his pads and jersey and then walks out of the stadium as he waves good-bye to the crowd.
Posted on 8/2/24 at 9:51 am to SteelerBravesDawg
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when it was clear that she wasn't in her right mental state
This was never clear. That's just what it morphed into after one or two days of criticism.
This post was edited on 8/2/24 at 9:53 am
Posted on 8/2/24 at 9:57 am to RollTide1987
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This was never clear
Yes, it was. Twisties are the yips. Yips are mental. Every other competitor there knew it immediately because they said she had no idea where she was when she was in the air. What's so hard to understand here?
And you never answered my original question, so I'm going to pose it again:
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So what if she had broken her neck or worse, became a paraplegic b/c she didn't "quit" when it was clear that she wasn't in her right mental state? Would you have applauded that?
Posted on 8/2/24 at 10:00 am to RollTide1987
quote:Why not? When a player tears his ACL he can put a cast on his knee and get back out there
Absolutely no
Posted on 8/2/24 at 10:15 am to SteelerBravesDawg
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Yes, it was. Twisties are the yips. Yips are mental. Every other competitor there knew it immediately because they said she had no idea where she was when she was in the air. What's so hard to understand here?
I know what the Twisties are. Believe me, I watched enough YouTube videos and read enough articles back in 2021 to have a firm grasp of what they are. There's nothing difficult to understand about them. However, the Twisties was not the initial diagnosis from Simone Biles. When you go back and watch her original press conference announcing her decision, the Twisties or any reference to them are never brought up. She said that she felt the weight of the world on her shoulders and the weight got too big and so she withdrew to focus on her mental health.
It was only after that press conference and the backlash from some of the members of the media that she brought up the fact that she "lost herself" in mid-air on the vault.
This post was edited on 8/2/24 at 10:16 am
Posted on 8/2/24 at 10:21 am to lsupride87
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Why not? When a player tears his ACL he can put a cast on his knee and get back out there
This is true. We have seen instances of this happening before. Bear Bryant played against Tennessee on a fractured tibia while Terrell Owens played Super Bowl XXXIX with a broken leg and a torn ligament in his right ankle. Kerri Strug won gold for Team USA in the 1996 Olympics with torn tendons in her leg. By the way, it's funny how everyone considered that last example heroic until comparisons were drawn between her and Simone Biles. Now it's seen as unnecessary and a horrifying example of a tyrant coach demanding too much of his gymnasts.
I suppose it depends on how badly you want something.
This post was edited on 8/2/24 at 10:27 am
Posted on 8/2/24 at 10:26 am to RollTide1987
quote:exactly.
This is true. We have seen instances of this happening before. Bear Bryant played against Tennessee on a fractured tibia while Terrell Owens played Super Bowl XXXIX with a broken leg and a torn ligament in his right ankle. Kerri Strug won gold for Team USA in the 1996 Olympics with torn tendons in her leg. I suppose it depends on how badly you want something.
Brady was a selfish quitter in 2008. He was mad about losing the u defeated season in 2007 so he quite the entire year on his team
Posted on 8/2/24 at 10:26 am to SteelerBravesDawg
Cracks.me up thinking of all these guys in this thread who would get winded just running across the floor platform.
Posted on 8/2/24 at 10:29 am to lsupride87
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Brady was a selfish quitter in 2008.
Yep.
And just like Biles he redeemed himself. I'm glad we are in agreement. Biles was a quitter in 2021 and then came back and redeemed herself in both our eyes in 2024.
The only difference is there was nothing physically wrong with Simone Biles. A small difference to be sure, however.
This post was edited on 8/2/24 at 10:30 am
Posted on 8/2/24 at 10:42 am to RollTide1987
Yea lots of excuses being made for someone that quit on the team.
She overcame it to dominate this year, but simple simple reality is that she quit because she couldn’t handle the pressure and some nonsense about her boyfriend and retroactively blamed it on some ailment that can’t really be tested for or proven that you had.
Not sure why people have such a hard time admitting what actually happened. These athletes are fallible. It’s ok.
She overcame it to dominate this year, but simple simple reality is that she quit because she couldn’t handle the pressure and some nonsense about her boyfriend and retroactively blamed it on some ailment that can’t really be tested for or proven that you had.
Not sure why people have such a hard time admitting what actually happened. These athletes are fallible. It’s ok.
Posted on 8/2/24 at 10:44 am to lsupride87
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Brady was a selfish quitter in 2008. He was mad about losing the u defeated season in 2007 so he quite the entire year on his team
What an idiot lol
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