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re: Youth Sports - Are people really this crappy
Posted on 5/23/22 at 4:30 pm to The Spleen
Posted on 5/23/22 at 4:30 pm to The Spleen
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Most 8-10 year old leagues don’t allow fast breaks or full court pressing. The league my son played in certainly didn’t.
What? I have never heard of that. Learn something new everyday.
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Posted on 5/23/22 at 4:32 pm to bamaphan13
Your son is a pine rider.. Get over it, and move on. Every other kid on the team wanted to play, some wanted to win(as did their parents), and the coach.
If he wants to play, he needs to practice, get better, and benefit from it.
If he wants to play, he needs to practice, get better, and benefit from it.
Posted on 5/23/22 at 4:33 pm to Crowknowsbest
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It's fricking 8 year olds, no one gives a shite about the "championship"
This is bullshite.
Those kids absolutely like to win and get excited about advancing in a tournament. I have great memories of going to state for soccer and winning tournaments in basketball when I was that age. It was great and everyone on the team liked winning regardless of how much they played.
But what OP wants is his kid to feel good at the expense of the team feeling good about a potential win.
At some point kids need to learn that merit and ability is rewarded and leads to success. You never taught it to him so thankfully this coach did.
Posted on 5/23/22 at 4:34 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Depends on the age...
I've coached multiple league ages now.
Tball (4-6) and coach pitch (6-8) and I play them evenly as possible. Even in the friendly end of year tournament...
Now kid pitch (9-10) is different. You have to play minimum 6 outs and the best see the field. That's it. The outfielders are weaker players and is who gets substituted out. They are old enough to know and understand. Some kids work their arse off all year and at practice and they get more playing time.
I've coached multiple league ages now.
Tball (4-6) and coach pitch (6-8) and I play them evenly as possible. Even in the friendly end of year tournament...
Now kid pitch (9-10) is different. You have to play minimum 6 outs and the best see the field. That's it. The outfielders are weaker players and is who gets substituted out. They are old enough to know and understand. Some kids work their arse off all year and at practice and they get more playing time.
Posted on 5/23/22 at 4:38 pm to the_magician
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If the dude gave one shite about winning a "championship" over teaching young kids good life lessons and having fun
It’s amazing you don’t see that 8-10 years can learn a very valuable life lesson from playing just a little less than better players in the final league game and only see a life lesson coming from completely in equal playing time, despite some players being better and more deserving.
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Kinda like you.
You have no idea who I am or my morals. You have repeatedly said people don’t know if you’re a wuss or a pussy or etc…, yet because I can see life lessons and teaching opportunities for 2nd-4th graders by them having slightly less playing time in the final game of a season you’re 100% confident I’m a scumbag.
You really are a microcosm of what is wrong with this country as is seems like anyone that has a different view than you is a scumbag.
This post was edited on 5/23/22 at 5:07 pm
Posted on 5/23/22 at 4:40 pm to poochie
Entitlement doesn't belong in competitive sports. When I played, no one played unless they were good enough. Tell your kid to suck it up, get better, and be grateful the coach let him play at all.
Posted on 5/23/22 at 4:41 pm to thejudge
I always awarded playing time based on effort at the younger ages. League rules mandated every kid got to play at least X amount, but the kids that worked hard in practice played well beyond that. I made the parents aware that was my philosophy before practice even started and I never had an issue with a parent over playing time.
Posted on 5/23/22 at 4:43 pm to the_magician
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teaching young kids good life lessons
Here's one of the best life lessons you can teach a kid at that age: "sometimes you aren't good enough". You're not going to make it to the NBA or the NFL. But you can still work your hardest and have a good time. You're not going to be the CEO of a Fortune 100 company, but you can still gain satisfaction from doing the absolute best job you can.
Posted on 5/23/22 at 4:43 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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You really are a microcosm of what is wrong with this country as is seems like anyone that has a different view than you is a scumbag.
This. 100% this, he needs to go back to the hole he crawled out of.
Posted on 5/23/22 at 4:49 pm to bamaphan13
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My kid is crying after the game, upset he didn't get the full playing time.
Your kid is lucky he played at all being that he’s not good and it was the championship.
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I talk to the coach and he was saying its a competitive league and he was trying to win the game but appreciated my feedback.
Seems fair
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This guy made a 9yo kid cry trying to win a rec league BB champ game. Even if you had won that doesn't make it right.
Oh I’m going to enjoy reading back on this thread
Posted on 5/23/22 at 5:00 pm to The Spleen
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younger ages. League rules mandated every kid got to play at least X amount, but the kids that worked hard in practice played well beyond that.
I don't disagree....but...
It's tough when you have 15 kids on a team at the younger levels as well as no more practices once the games start. The kids always on the bench would be the same 5 and they wouldn't get the opportunity to get experience and move up.
If there were only like 11-12 kids like it's supposed to be then it would would easier to let the better kids stay on the field the whole time.
Posted on 5/23/22 at 5:04 pm to bamaphan13
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This guy made a 9yo kid cry trying to win a rec league BB champ game.
Were the other 4 players literally crying about their PT, or just yours? This could be a teachable moment for you.
Posted on 5/23/22 at 5:22 pm to bamaphan13
You're a helicopter parent, aren't you?
Officiating my entire adult life I can spot them from a mile off.
Officiating my entire adult life I can spot them from a mile off.
Posted on 5/23/22 at 5:24 pm to bamaphan13
I’m glad to see you admitted your kids skill level. When I was elementary school I just wasn’t coordinated and I appreciated when I got in the game.
Posted on 5/23/22 at 5:31 pm to Shexter
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The "Life is Tough" lesson has been learned.
Noone under 30 was ever taught this.
Posted on 5/23/22 at 6:16 pm to Crowknowsbest
They still didn't win, and even if they did it doesn't matter. Middle school os when they should start caring, anything younger is extremely embarrassing to watch someone care about.
Posted on 5/23/22 at 6:38 pm to bamaphan13
I coached youth athletics, all sports, for 15 years in TX. I learned many things from the kids in that stretch & it was the parents attitude that eventually pushed me to hang up the whistle.
Try to tell the kids on the field it is a rec game ! They know the score. They know who wins & who loses. If the coach has done his job, the players are about the team by the end of any season. Team sports teach kids a lot. I have never been more proud then when a kid comes to the sideline & says, “Coach, put Johnny in my spot if we’re gonna win this”. It’s a “rec” league.
If a parent or youngster doesn't get it, I suggest they try tennis, singles. :-)
Try to tell the kids on the field it is a rec game ! They know the score. They know who wins & who loses. If the coach has done his job, the players are about the team by the end of any season. Team sports teach kids a lot. I have never been more proud then when a kid comes to the sideline & says, “Coach, put Johnny in my spot if we’re gonna win this”. It’s a “rec” league.
If a parent or youngster doesn't get it, I suggest they try tennis, singles. :-)
Posted on 5/23/22 at 6:42 pm to McCorkleJonesGOAT
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Middle school os when they should start caring, anything younger is extremely embarrassing to watch someone care about.
So we should start coaching kids before middle school not to care about the score? Most of them do care at baseline.
To be honest, I find the concept of complete indifference to the competitive side of sports to be a bizarre concept. I’m not talking about a suicidal win-or-die attitude, but the competitive factor is foundational to the activity.
This post was edited on 5/23/22 at 6:45 pm
Posted on 5/24/22 at 9:49 am to the_magician
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Clearly you were a little bitch as a kid and rode the bench.
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Maybe. Maybe not.
But one of my friends growing up was an all sport everything.
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I will never take sports seriously.
Pretty much admitted to being the bench riding bitch. Maybe your kid wants to take sports seriously and you are holding him back. Let him decide, not you. Unless you just want that much control....because....
Posted on 5/24/22 at 10:44 am to bamaphan13
How often do you work with your kid? I understand there is a fine line at that age, but when you are in the championship game, I think the coach owes it to the team to put them in position to win it.
My 9 year old nephew plays travel ball. They started in mid March and have two more tournaments left. He is the youngest kid on the team (he birthday is right before the cutoff date) and his parents told him that there was a chance he would not start, but he has to keep working at it. For the first 3 or 4 tournaments he didn't start, there was a game he didn't get to play in because it was close and they needed to win..
He has another uncle who played juco baseball and he asked if that uncle would come help him. 3 days a week they would put 30 mins in. He started playing more confident. He isn't fast, but he gets on base. He walks a lot, but he has also improved his swing. He now starts. He plays right field. He isn't the best on the team. He needs to work more on his fielding, but he was told that if its something he wants to do, he will have to work on getting better.
So get out there and work with him. You don't have to spend all night, just put in a certain time so many times a week. ID his strengths and weaknesses. If he isn't interested in it enough to do that then it might not be for him and there is nothing wrong with that.
My 9 year old nephew plays travel ball. They started in mid March and have two more tournaments left. He is the youngest kid on the team (he birthday is right before the cutoff date) and his parents told him that there was a chance he would not start, but he has to keep working at it. For the first 3 or 4 tournaments he didn't start, there was a game he didn't get to play in because it was close and they needed to win..
He has another uncle who played juco baseball and he asked if that uncle would come help him. 3 days a week they would put 30 mins in. He started playing more confident. He isn't fast, but he gets on base. He walks a lot, but he has also improved his swing. He now starts. He plays right field. He isn't the best on the team. He needs to work more on his fielding, but he was told that if its something he wants to do, he will have to work on getting better.
So get out there and work with him. You don't have to spend all night, just put in a certain time so many times a week. ID his strengths and weaknesses. If he isn't interested in it enough to do that then it might not be for him and there is nothing wrong with that.
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