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re: Youth Sports - Are people really this crappy

Posted on 5/23/22 at 4:12 pm to
Posted by the_magician
Member since May 2022
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Posted on 5/23/22 at 4:12 pm to
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Yeah, what if it’s not a rule, and the coach still goes out of his way to play every player evenly, and still plays every player in the league final, but just played the best kids 6 minutes more.

Is he still a scumbag?


If the dude gave one shite about winning a "championship" over teaching young kids good life lessons and having fun... then yes.

Kinda like you.
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
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Posted on 5/23/22 at 4:12 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261805 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 4:12 pm to
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100% agree with this.


Bingo. Not blasting his son, but I've been there. My dad said I could complain or get better. I got better. No one cared that I didn't play one game.
Posted by the_magician
Member since May 2022
74 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 4:13 pm to
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You think the coach went and punched a hole in his living room wall after?


No idea. But it wouldn't surprise me.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261805 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 4:14 pm to
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" over teaching young kids good life lessons


Not playing is a fantastic life lesson. Get better or find another sport to play.

This post was edited on 5/23/22 at 4:15 pm
Posted by thadcastle
Member since Dec 2019
2625 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 4:15 pm to
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winning a 8-10 yo champ game isn't a huge accomplishment

Agreed at the age of 35 no but those kids think it is a huge accomplishment. Just because your friend had a dad who was an a-hole doesn't mean the kids don't care and take a great amount joy/pride in winning a championship. I don't even really understand what you are trying to argue, that the kids won't look back on this when they are 30?
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25887 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 4:15 pm to
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It's fricking 8 year olds, no one gives a shite about the "championship"

Maybe it makes me not cool, but I definitely cared a lot about the championship when I was 8.
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 5/23/22 at 4:16 pm to
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My kid is crying after the game,
just like his dad
Posted by jmorr34
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2004
2898 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 4:17 pm to
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Sure, you can learn a lot from them, but winning a 8-10 yo champ game isn't a huge accomplishment.


Maybe its not a "huge accomplishment", but has your son ever won one and you witness the sheer level of enjoyment and excitement from them and their teammates? I have. Even though its not a major accomplishment, it was a great moment for him, his teammates, and the parents. My 8yo plays outfield in baseball, bats toward the end of the lineup, and sits sometimes on defense. He understands why. We understand why. We are practicing to become better. He was sad they lost in the 1st round of playoffs this Spring season. I guarantee you he would have rather won the championship even though he sat at times.
This post was edited on 5/23/22 at 4:32 pm
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
29028 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 4:18 pm to
My son’s team was undefeated through the season and into the tournament championship this last February. We had 3 pretty weak players we gave equal playing time to for the entire year, but had still came out on top until the final.

Our opponent in the final didn’t play their weaker players the second half (definitely breaking the league rules) and won by 1. The weaker players 100% contributed to us losing.

We have our moral ground but they have the trophies. My 12 year old DGAS about moral high ground.

Do with that what you will.
This post was edited on 5/23/22 at 7:10 pm
Posted by loopback
Member since Jul 2011
4887 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 4:18 pm to
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the_magician


Found the kid who was always picked last on the playground and is still bitter about it today decades later
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54183 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 4:19 pm to
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I will never take sports seriously.
Well, OP and his son clearly do, so maybe you should either advise them to not take it so seriously or get better. Shifting blame to the coach isn’t going to help anything.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261805 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 4:19 pm to
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Maybe it makes me not cool, but I definitely cared a lot about the championship when I was 8.



Makes you pretty normal.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25887 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 4:21 pm to
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But one of my friends growing up was an all sport everything. His dad made him throw 100 pitches a night and shite like that.

Long story short, he was never going to be a professional ball player. He was the backup QB at a college to a guy that got drafted. He didn't make it. It ruined his life and his relationship with his family when they couldn't let it go.

There is an enormous middle ground between making a very measured attempt to win the championship by giving better players more playing time and the situation you are describing.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 4:23 pm to
I see both sides of the situation, and do think if the coach was going to depart from the substitution pattern he’d used all season he should have at least let the parents and players know ahead of time. 8-10 year old leagues are still primarily about learning the game, and it sucks that experience will stick with your son for a while, and maybe even prompt him to give up the sport.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119044 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 4:24 pm to
There is a solution for this. You make sure the style of play is so up tempo that as a player you are happy to be subbed just to get a breather. But the the tone for that style of play needs to be set at the first practice. If you have 12 kids as a coach I would make damn sure they were all worn out after a game.

No walking up the ball on offense and full court trap defense all the time.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 4:26 pm to
Most 8-10 year old leagues don’t allow fast breaks or full court pressing. The league my son played in certainly didn’t.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261805 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 4:27 pm to
Thing is the guys kid got to play, its not like he didnt. He just didn't get the time he thought he was entitled to.
Posted by loopback
Member since Jul 2011
4887 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 4:29 pm to
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he thought he was entitled to.



And THATS the issue here....entitlement without EARNING it.
Posted by poochie
Houma, la
Member since Apr 2007
6377 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 4:30 pm to
You don’t, by chance, happen to have a kid on the Vandebilt Catholic baseball team, do you? Possibly a #2 pitcher?
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