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re: Why is Nicholls a thing?

Posted on 7/24/19 at 11:29 am to
Posted by Methuselah
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Posted on 7/24/19 at 11:29 am to
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but if commuting or living at home is a large issue for you, maybe try online college. Having a college near your hometown isn't some right.



The trend seems to be for more and more colleges to offer more and more of their courses via partially, majority or all on-line. Even the medical school students can participate in most of their courses that way.
Posted by slackster
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Posted on 7/24/19 at 11:33 am to
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Louisiana has 173 college campuses


It's really not as bad as people make it seem. LA has 28 4 year universities, and is basically right in the middle of the US rankings for 4 year universities per capita.
Posted by BilJ
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Posted on 7/24/19 at 11:34 am to
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They serve black folks.


so do all the other colleges in the state, not sure if you've heard



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There’s a ton of history in HBCU’s.


so its OK they largely suck at what they're intended to do and drain much needed tax dollars...you get a pass for having history
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
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Posted on 7/24/19 at 11:50 am to
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They serve black folks
very, very poorly
Posted by Restomod
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Posted on 7/24/19 at 12:05 pm to
Serious question, does Louisiana high schools offer college credits while in high school? Many kids here in Texas (at the better schools) graduate high school with an associate's degree.
Posted by LSU fan 246
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Posted on 7/24/19 at 12:06 pm to
Yes.

Lsu also does a spring testing where seniors can go and test out of the intro classes
Posted by The Torch
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Posted on 7/24/19 at 12:08 pm to
Isn't that where kids who flunk out of LSU go to get the GPA back up ?
Posted by Restomod
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Posted on 7/24/19 at 12:10 pm to
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Yes.

Lsu also does a spring testing where seniors can go and test out of the intro classes


Good deal
Posted by Methuselah
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Posted on 7/24/19 at 12:28 pm to
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Serious question, does Louisiana high schools offer college credits while in high school? Many kids here in Texas (at the better schools) graduate high school with an associate's degree

Yes. From my understanding there are two basic versions.

One is called Dual Enrollment, and is done by some districts in conjunction with a university. The person who teaches it has to undergo training and approval by the university. The credit for these courses apply to the university as long as they mesh with classes accepted for your major. My son had classes that put him well into his sophomore year of college, snd I know of a couple of kids who had even more.

There is another version called Advanced Placement. I don't know as much about that, but I think it just lets you take tests for some college credit.


This post was edited on 7/24/19 at 12:31 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/24/19 at 12:40 pm to
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Shunting everyone to Baton Rouge does no one any favors. Same, now, for Lafayette as USL...sorry, UL is growing in numbers.

I'm all for allowing Northwestern being the small, liberal arts outlet for those who want the "small school" feel
Posted by Methuselah
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Posted on 7/24/19 at 12:42 pm to
They probably should just close ULL and let LSU and McNeese absorb those poor kids.
Posted by jlovel7
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Posted on 7/24/19 at 1:01 pm to
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Maybe in the 70’s and 80’s. We’re not as sheltered as we used to be. We got electricity and all now, Mrs. Fancy city lady




You'd be shocked how many small town Louisiana kids couldn't cut (nor necessarily wanted to) at LSU for more than 1/2 semesters when I started there in 2012.
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 7/24/19 at 1:06 pm to
UL is closer to the size of smaller SEC schools than Nicholls or MSU

Posted by Methuselah
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Posted on 7/24/19 at 1:26 pm to
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UL is closer to the size of smaller SEC schools than Nicholls or MSU


I was just kidding, dude. I've got nothing against ULL. It just seemed strange to me that people were using geographic proximity as an argument to close some schools while ignoring one that is right smack between two other schools.

Personally, I think that some of the smaller universities serve a good purpose in promoting higher education to people that could not or would not go to a school where they had to get a dorm, apartment, meal plan, food budget etc. It just seems ultra flippant to say, well if you can't go to LSU, maybe you shouldn't go to college at all. Would that really improve the state? I don't think so.

Posted by RedPop4
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Posted on 7/24/19 at 1:49 pm to
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Personally, I think that some of the smaller universities serve a good purpose in promoting higher education to people that could not or would not go to a school where they had to get a dorm, apartment, meal plan, food budget etc. It just seems ultra flippant to say, well if you can't go to LSU, maybe you shouldn't go to college at all. Would that really improve the state? I don't think so.

Well stated, I have been thinking this same thing throughout my reading of this thread.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 7/24/19 at 1:58 pm to
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Louisiana has 173 college campuses
Massachusetts has 211
Florida 439
California 1243
Connecticut 114
Illinois 391
District of Columbia 33

Doesn't seem like Louisiana has too many compared to other states. Some smaller
lol

you included private universities
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 7/24/19 at 2:10 pm to
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So students who don't want to go to large school and prefer to save money by living at home should not go to college?
They should go to a private school....

The state should not be setting up small regional colleges. It makes no sense


The state should have one large flagship(lsu) and then a few very large regional commuter schools

LA tech up north
UNO
And one more between ULL and Mcneese

Then Community colleges sprinkled in other places
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 7/24/19 at 2:12 pm to
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It's really not as bad as people make it seem. LA has 28 4 year universities, and is basically right in the middle of the US rankings for 4 year universities per capita.
Where do we rank for public 4 year universities per capita?

Where do we rank on handling that budget?

Where do we rank on the returns from those 4 year universities with graduation rates?


Those are the numbers that matter
Posted by Methuselah
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Posted on 7/24/19 at 2:41 pm to
You have utterly failed to convince me why I should agree with you on that assertion.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
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Posted on 7/24/19 at 2:45 pm to
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Serious question, does Louisiana high schools offer college credits while in high school? Many kids here in Texas (at the better schools) graduate high school with an associate's degree.


Yes they do, but it's not nearly as good as what Texas does.

It was actually an issue in this year's legislative session, there was a bill that would have provided that every student (maybe limited to seniors, i don't recall) could take two dual enrollment classes for free. A big part of the issue has been that in most school districts, in order to take dual enrollment, you had to pay some money, and a lot of kids in public schools here could not afford that.

In typical LA fashion, the bill was amended to just set up a study group to study the issue and report back in a couple of years.
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