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re: Why don’t people build houses with wrap around porches anymore?

Posted on 9/22/26 at 10:55 am to
Posted by TJ_Burke
Aspen
Member since Aug 2026
48 posts
Posted on 9/22/26 at 10:55 am to
Because they are expensive and don't count towards a home's square feet. Sad but kinda true.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
110267 posts
Posted on 9/22/26 at 11:01 am to
We have a covered front porch that I enjoy from time to time but I get a fair amount of road noise.

My goal is to have a nice, big garden out in the backyard (especially since we don’t have young kids or a dog). Going to take some time to cultivate that for sure though.
Posted by NOLALGD
Member since May 2014
2827 posts
Posted on 9/22/26 at 11:17 am to
Generally they don't work/look as good in suburban areas, and especially with front loading garages and carports. There are still a decent number of them in NO, and a lot of sidehall shotgun houses that have a partial wrap around.
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
12437 posts
Posted on 9/22/26 at 11:35 am to
When we bought this place, the front facing the road had a porch the entire length. It was known locally as the one place that would have a cooling breeze when no one else had. It faces east. It had one swing. We took that one down (it's now on the porch on the west facing front of my husband/s wood working shop) and we built two swings from Louisiana cypress, one for either end,

The miracle (snark) of porches is that they give shade. Shade drops air temperatures and cool the houses faster than that maple tree you just planted in the front yard that you'll start appreciating in fifteen to thirty years.
Posted by dat yat
Chef Pass
Member since Jun 2011
5145 posts
Posted on 9/22/26 at 11:41 am to
A friends camp had nice porches on 3 sides. After Ida they renovated and most of those porches became bunk rooms, shop/storage and a dining room.

It is more comfortable now, but I do love the look of wraparounds.
Posted by Will Cover
Davidson, NC
Member since Mar 2007
40478 posts
Posted on 9/22/26 at 11:52 am to
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front loading garages and carports.


Never been my favorite. I'm currently in a rental, and the entire neighborhood is like this. Many people can't park their cars inside them for all the crap they have stored in the "garage" area. It looks like a disaster area, and a lot of people park their vehicles in the street.

The HOA -- and I know many are against HOAs -- is either non-existant here -- or have no authority.
Posted by Fat Man
Gotta Luv Cov ... ington
Member since Jan 2006
7178 posts
Posted on 9/22/26 at 11:54 am to
There is a cost associated to building a porch. If this comes at the expense of living area that's a bad investment.

A smaller porch on the front for architectural interest can be good.

A porch with enough depth to allow outdoor seating is good. Many front porches are only 6' deep which isn't really adequate. As others have pointed out, the direction as it pertains to the sun is important. A western exposure in south Louisiana is a killer.

Porches also require maintenance. It's like owning another car or a boat that has to be washed several times a year. Columns and spindles made of wood with caulking must be maintained or the wood will rot out. Replacing is a drain on resources.

FTR, I used to be a OT Baller Builder. I used to be somebody .
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
16419 posts
Posted on 9/22/26 at 12:01 pm to
I’ve always said that if I were to win the powerball I’d buy tons of land and build a large farm style house with a wrap around porch.

Maybe in my next life….
Posted by SEC. 593
Chicago
Member since Aug 2012
4460 posts
Posted on 9/22/26 at 12:23 pm to
That's because the kitchen has transformed into the main entertainment/ hangout spot of the modern house.
Posted by CapitalTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Sep 2019
874 posts
Posted on 9/22/26 at 1:02 pm to
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That's because the kitchen has transformed into the main entertainment/ hangout spot of the modern house.


But only because of air conditioning. Kitchens were separate to keep heat out of the living areas of a home.

Posted by trussthetruzz
Member since Sep 2020
10591 posts
Posted on 9/22/26 at 1:09 pm to
I have one. It's a pain in the arse keeping it clean from bugs and chairs are always getting dirty. I hardly use it outside of some pleasant weather in the fall and winter.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
61015 posts
Posted on 9/22/26 at 1:11 pm to
quote:

Why don’t people build houses with wrap around porches anymore?


Being the target of a drive-by is more difficult if you're inside.

-El Gaucho
Posted by mytigger
Member since Jan 2008
15437 posts
Posted on 9/22/26 at 1:11 pm to
ain't nobody sitting on porches anymore
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
92595 posts
Posted on 9/22/26 at 1:25 pm to
quote:

It's impractical to have it wrap around the whole house, and usually when it did the house was elevated and it served a purpose



Yeah the wrap around porches I still see are on elevated houses. So like in New Orleans or at the beach.

Who is wrapping a porch around a garage?


Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
15663 posts
Posted on 9/22/26 at 1:40 pm to
Air conditioning. Ain’t no one wanting to sit outside for long drinking tea and sweating their arse off in a rocking chair anymore.

I have a large back deck that basically get used three months out of the year. Otherwise it’s useless.
Posted by RaginRampage
Detroit Lions Fan
Member since Feb 2018
279 posts
Posted on 9/22/26 at 2:46 pm to
I think a lot of people prefer a big deck instead
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
15666 posts
Posted on 9/22/26 at 2:48 pm to
Lot of cost for roof structure that is seldom used in the halcyon HVAC age. Also eats up a lot of land which is about as expensive as building in all but rural areas. 10' side setbacks are IBC standards in most zoning ordinances so a 100 foot wide lot loses 20 feet with the stroke of a pen leaving 80 to fit in the house, with 8 foot porches that leaves 64 feet without any place to park vehicles, inside or out. I like the look, with advent of air conditioning it became impractical, especially in urban and suburban areas....
Posted by SEC. 593
Chicago
Member since Aug 2012
4460 posts
Posted on 9/22/26 at 2:55 pm to
Agreed. My answer was more around, why would you move the current center of the house away from the house since everyone has AC now.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
15666 posts
Posted on 9/22/26 at 3:15 pm to
quote:

To construct them, you’ve got to build the same foundations, floor, structural load bearing system and roofing of interior spaces



This is only true, in most jurisdictions which have adapted the IBC, IF the porch is fully enclosed (not screened) and heated. If any space is fully enclosed (not screened) and heated (not cooled) the minimum live load is 20 LB per square foot PLUS the dead load. For outdoor spaces that are covered but not fully enclosed the live load is reduced to 15 pounds per square foot and may or may not require any dead load depending on the design and planned use. This means the roof of a porch, if a solid plane from ridge to supporting structure at the outside of the porch, can de designed for much lighter loads than the same roof which rests on the supporting structure of an interior space. The difference is pretty drastic, especially in footings and beam spans. If the porch roof is also supported by the supporting structure of the interior space at the interior space AND at the outside of the porch those spans and footing / foundation designs are far less expensive for the porch itself than the interior space. There are an awful lot of shed and even gable and hip roof covered porches built to code on pressure treated posts directly buried, something that requires an engineering stamp to do with the same interior space. General contractors and even home owners in jurisdictions allowing such designs can do so with porches, almost no jurisdiction allows the same entitites to do so with interior spaces.

The cost of covered porces is not comparable to living space, it is not insignificant but the actual cost is one of utility....they are seldom used spaces that, while costing substantially less than living spaces, still cost a significant amount of money to build.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
37919 posts
Posted on 9/22/26 at 4:25 pm to
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They also help with cooling and road/other noise.


how so?
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