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re: Why don't High Schools have classes regarding the legal & financial impact of marriage ?
Posted on 6/5/26 at 7:28 pm to UncleRuckus
Posted on 6/5/26 at 7:28 pm to UncleRuckus
quote:been doing it since the boys got older. Bought them ETFs for Christmas presents, tell them about budgets, saving for what you want, not going into debt.
That’s a parents job.
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Posted on 6/5/26 at 7:39 pm to Gretzky
Dude, We're trying to trick them into getting married. Would you STFU!?
Posted on 6/5/26 at 7:46 pm to Gretzky
OP sounds bitter.
Posted on 6/5/26 at 8:02 pm to Gretzky
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Gretzky
I guess your marriage was not a Great One
Posted on 6/5/26 at 8:11 pm to Gretzky
I would settle for a basic finance class.
If you think about marriage as an agreement for sex in any capacity then I suppose prostitution is what you should stick to.
Alternative theory would be to really think beyond the first page of the book and how you both think the rest of the story looks like.
Can't say i thought life would turn out the way it has but I wouldnt change my marriage for anything at this point. Im 16 years in and hope the crescendo of life with my wife continues.
My wife drives me to be better and I encourage her to the best of my ability. Constructive vs destructive mentality.
If you think about marriage as an agreement for sex in any capacity then I suppose prostitution is what you should stick to.
Alternative theory would be to really think beyond the first page of the book and how you both think the rest of the story looks like.
Can't say i thought life would turn out the way it has but I wouldnt change my marriage for anything at this point. Im 16 years in and hope the crescendo of life with my wife continues.
My wife drives me to be better and I encourage her to the best of my ability. Constructive vs destructive mentality.
Posted on 6/5/26 at 8:13 pm to Gretzky
She fricked that alien messier huh
Posted on 6/5/26 at 8:20 pm to Gretzky
You want this thing to teach your son about marriage?
Posted on 6/5/26 at 8:27 pm to Gretzky
I was asking ChatGPT about the public school system in the USA. Whether or not public school around the country provide less of a quality education than it did... 20.. 30 years ago and that the reality of public schools in the US today is to at the least provide the opportunity for people to learn the basics. And that if someone who graduates from high school you know they are able to at least function at a certain level. That's not the exact words, but that a lot is left for people to have to figure out.
It also said that children learn most of what they know from their living environment, which is the biggest indicator of their future, not whether or not they were good or bad students in high school.
Someone I know, who works at a public school and is working summer school was telling me that the schools feed the kids in summer school and that those who attend are expected to go get a lunch. They don't care what they do with it, they just need them to scan their card to account for that meal because the school gets so much money.. I guess depending on how many kids eat. So for the people running these schools, they care more about making sure kids get a lunch... Not whether or not they eat it, but what is that teaching them? If you want to eat you better go to school so you can get a free breakfast and lunch.
When I was in school in the 90s it cost $0.75 a day for lunch. I used to get $5 a week. My mom had a big jar filled with quarters & I got 20 quarters on money which game me a little extra jingle to get something from the vending machine once or twice during the week. On some level that gives you a responsibility to manage money. I could save the extra money and not get anything from the vending machine. And if you wanted to eat you couldn't just take that money and go do something else with it, but today, especially in public schools are not taught any responsibilities. They just have to attend every day and they get free breakfast and free lunch.
But at the minimum schools should at least teach the basic laws. If you get stopped by police and you don't comply it is their right to arrest you. If you are under arrest and you resist it is legal for the police to use force to restrain you because there are a lot of people out there who think they know all of their rights and don't know shite.
It also said that children learn most of what they know from their living environment, which is the biggest indicator of their future, not whether or not they were good or bad students in high school.
Someone I know, who works at a public school and is working summer school was telling me that the schools feed the kids in summer school and that those who attend are expected to go get a lunch. They don't care what they do with it, they just need them to scan their card to account for that meal because the school gets so much money.. I guess depending on how many kids eat. So for the people running these schools, they care more about making sure kids get a lunch... Not whether or not they eat it, but what is that teaching them? If you want to eat you better go to school so you can get a free breakfast and lunch.
When I was in school in the 90s it cost $0.75 a day for lunch. I used to get $5 a week. My mom had a big jar filled with quarters & I got 20 quarters on money which game me a little extra jingle to get something from the vending machine once or twice during the week. On some level that gives you a responsibility to manage money. I could save the extra money and not get anything from the vending machine. And if you wanted to eat you couldn't just take that money and go do something else with it, but today, especially in public schools are not taught any responsibilities. They just have to attend every day and they get free breakfast and free lunch.
But at the minimum schools should at least teach the basic laws. If you get stopped by police and you don't comply it is their right to arrest you. If you are under arrest and you resist it is legal for the police to use force to restrain you because there are a lot of people out there who think they know all of their rights and don't know shite.
Posted on 6/5/26 at 8:38 pm to Gretzky
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Teach about how courts handle division of assets, alimony etc.
Maybe bring in a Divorce Attorney to answer questions & take a field trip and sit in a Divorce Court.
I mean... you really shouldn't be going into marriage with the expectation that you will eventually get divorced. If that's your expectation, you have no business getting married.
Posted on 6/5/26 at 8:41 pm to Gretzky
Yeah for real.
Generally, we could all use a little more intrusion into our personal lives.
There is no need for parents to have to teach their children anything or be examples of how to live their lives. Someone else should do it.
Generally, we could all use a little more intrusion into our personal lives.
There is no need for parents to have to teach their children anything or be examples of how to live their lives. Someone else should do it.
Posted on 6/5/26 at 8:42 pm to Gretzky
maybe they should stick to compound interest, time value of money, and delayed gratification.
don't need the overweight 48 year old divorcee high school teacher souring my kid on traditional family.
don't need the overweight 48 year old divorcee high school teacher souring my kid on traditional family.
Posted on 6/5/26 at 8:47 pm to Gretzky
Good God the OT guys hate being married.
Posted on 6/5/26 at 8:56 pm to Gretzky
quote:
Why don't High Schools have classes regarding the legal & financial impact of marriage ?
fricking what?
It’s like people saying why don’t we teach kids about taxes.
we can barely teach them basic math and how to read. The Tax code is complicated.
Also, the legal and financial implications of marriage vary greatly couple to couple.
This post was edited on 6/5/26 at 8:59 pm
Posted on 6/5/26 at 9:13 pm to Gretzky
quote:
Why don't High Schools have classes regarding the legal & financial impact of marriage ?
Because some things should be taught in the home and not in school.
Posted on 6/5/26 at 9:18 pm to Gretzky
I won the lottery with my wife apparently. Some of you bums on here be getting married to the first girl who winked at you
Posted on 6/5/26 at 11:51 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
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why would they?
Because the myriad of stuff they don't teach is universal or near universal and impacts the lives of the vast, vast majority of their students greater than subjects like chemistry and trigonometry by several orders of magnitude.
Things like marriage and relationship skills, household budgeting, how different taxes work, investing, saving, what having children is like, conflict resolution, etc.
quote:
why do people think high schools should teach life skills?
There's two very different ways that question could be answered IMO.
1. I'm fine with public education being completely overhauled. It's definitely obsolete. Elementary school would be much like it is now, but after about sixth grade most academic classes should be online and students should transition to self-learning at their own pace. They don't want to move forward and learn, fine, that's their business and their responsibility. They could return to school any time they wanted. Like the lessons themselves, all tests would be standardized so as to eliminate bias or accusations of favoritism or "inferior schools." Tutors could be available to help students who were stuck on something, and they could also teach the labs for the subjects in which a laboratory environment would be necessary to complete a course. Other than labs or tutoring, which could be done in one building on a campus that would need several under the current system, students just go to school online. Even with providing a student with a new laptop every 3-4 years and internet access, it would still be MUCH cheaper. It would be more like a public library where the government was making the information available and the citizenry was choosing to avail themselves of it (or not).
2. #1 makes the most sense to me above. However, most people can't wrap their minds around the loss of the "free" babysitting that compulsory mass public education provides and that idea is way too much for them.
To those people I say, "If we're going to use the state to mollycoddle children from age 5 to 18, we might as well do the best mollycoddle job we can." Which means offering life skills that are relevant to almost all of them.
We already do that, you know. PE is a life skills class. Home Ec (or whatever the call it now) is a life skills class. Art and music are life skills classes. The lessons that children supposedly learn from playing sports are supposed to be life skills. Heck, history and civics are life-skills classes. So are English literature classes.
If you don't object to those types of classes, it's hard to see how what the OP suggested should be off-limits. At least to me it is.
This post was edited on 6/5/26 at 11:53 pm
Posted on 6/5/26 at 11:54 pm to Oilfieldbiology
quote:
Because some things should be taught in the home and not in school.
Your dad sat you down and taught you the legal and financial impact of divorce?
How old were you when you guys had that talk?
Posted on 6/6/26 at 12:05 am to Gretzky
You don’t have to worry. The word is out. Young people are avoiding marriages in record numbers. A majority of them will stay single.
Posted on 6/6/26 at 6:06 am to Gretzky
quote:... or perhaps the most controllable predilection to poverty is being a single mother?
Getting married is probably the most impactful decision you will make from a legal/financial standpoint.
They should teach about prenups & the legal impact of what you're signing.
Teach about how courts handle division of assets, alimony etc.
Maybe bring in a Divorce Attorney to answer questions & take a field trip and sit in a Divorce Court.
Posted on 6/6/26 at 6:25 am to Gretzky
Asks why high schools don’t teach about the financial impact of marriage.
Goes on to talk about prenups and divorce.
What about this financial impact?
Goes on to talk about prenups and divorce.
What about this financial impact?
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