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re: When was the last time you hired for an open role? Everything is BS.
Posted on 9/2/26 at 12:07 pm to sidewalkside
Posted on 9/2/26 at 12:07 pm to sidewalkside
I'll put in a call. What burger king was it?
Posted on 9/2/26 at 12:07 pm to sidewalkside
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How did we get here?!?!
We must maximize shareholder value and there can be no kid left behind while doing so.
Posted on 9/2/26 at 12:10 pm to sidewalkside
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When was the last time you hired for an open role? Everything is BS.
Between 3 newly created positions and normal turnover; we've been interviewing and hiring pretty regularly. What they put on their application form is what is used 90% of the time. A science based college degree is a minimum requirement so that filters out a lot.
Our issue is that we've been having a lot of people with their PhDs applying for these entry level jobs. And that's just not what we're looking for in an entry level environmental scientist job. Mostly because there is a very small chance that (a) this is a job they want and (b) they will stick around long enough for it to be worth hiring and training them.
Once we have a list of candidates that we want to interview, we do one in person interview (mostly standard questions) per person w/ a technical writing exercise. Then we make a hiring decision. None of this Zoom/Teams pre-screen BS and no 2nd and 3rd interviews.
Posted on 9/2/26 at 12:12 pm to sidewalkside
Let me guess without reading the thread.
You are hiring for an ‘entry level’ position with entry level pay but trying to hire someone with more than entry level qualifications.
You are hiring for an ‘entry level’ position with entry level pay but trying to hire someone with more than entry level qualifications.
Posted on 9/2/26 at 12:18 pm to BrohemAlem11
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I've been hiring for a master's level behavioral health provider, built in requirements and had a fork lift operator with a GED apply
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hiring for a master's level behavioral health provider,
quote:that fork lift operator with a GED probably done experienced more behavioral health problems in real world situations than that PHD you looking for has ever read in a text book.
a fork lift operator with a GED apply.
Posted on 9/2/26 at 12:22 pm to sidewalkside
Try posting a job on indeed and see what bottom of the barrel applications you get. All that said, I think people applying probably have similar gripes about trying to land a new job with all the fake postings and terminally open jobs.
The system seems to be broken for both.
The system seems to be broken for both.
Posted on 9/2/26 at 12:28 pm to sidewalkside
quote:Miss DeMille, I’m ready for my close-up.
When was the last time you hired for an open role?
June of 1988.
38.25 years ago.
38.25 years before 6/1988 was 3/1950.
frick. It kinda makes you think.
This post was edited on 9/2/26 at 12:31 pm
Posted on 9/2/26 at 12:45 pm to sidewalkside
When I did hiring I always did in person interviews. And before I would call an application I liked, I would look them up on social media to make sure they seemed semi normal.
Glad I don't have to do this anymore.
Glad I don't have to do this anymore.
Posted on 9/2/26 at 2:29 pm to Sams Crow
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Why on Earth?
The uncomfortable truth is that they work cheaper. The company has offshored development a TON. Almost to an unhealthy degree. I have about 25-30 offshore developers that work for me. And I have 6 onshore direct reports. From a financial aspect, hiring offshore is just more beneficial, and you can't really compete in the market when everyone else is doing the same thing. The problem IMO is not with the companies doing it, but this is something the government needs to step in and change. But, I honestly don't think the government is the solution to anything so it'll just keep happening. I don't mind speaking freely here about offshoring. It isn't my decision, and I really don't like shipping jobs offshore, but I don't have a choice and the company writes a good paycheck for me to do what I do.
On a side note of dealing with Indians, like anything else, there are good developers and not great developers. We have a fair mix of good and bad and everything in between. We are in the critical ratio zone of offshore to onshore where things go badly. There are a small handful of offshore developers that I've gotten to know on a personal level, and they're honestly really nice people just wanting to do a good job.
The hardest part about my job is waking up at 5AM and having the language barrier first thing in the morning. Really forces you to focus and pay attention to everything being said because I can't understand every word.
Posted on 9/2/26 at 2:35 pm to Slevin7
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at least I’m aware of a lot of things before we start the shitshow
That’s the spirit!
Lol
Posted on 9/2/26 at 3:29 pm to SuperSaint
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that fork lift operator with a GED probably done experienced more behavioral health problems in real world situations than that PHD you looking for has ever read in a text book.
K. I don't think that's gonna fly with MCO credentialing but..good to know.
Posted on 9/2/26 at 3:49 pm to BoogaBear
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Every resume is AI generated to match the job posting.
To be fair, your ATS have forced experienced workers to do this. Workday, ICMS, etc. all suck. After we've uploaded CVs, 80% of the time, we have to cut and paste content from our CVs into your application fields because your idiot tools don't perform the job you're supposedly paying them to do (parse data out of a document semi-accurately.)
Mention Zero Trust, but not ZTNA (Zero Trust Network Access,) our CV gets binned before a human sees it. Call it a "System Security Plan," but the ATS is scanning for SSP, binned. Say you have experience with multiple CSPM (cloud security posture management) tools, but don't mention Prisma by name, get bent, applicant (all the consoles basically work the same.)
And you guys and your "What is expected salary" in the initial application before we ask questions about scope and responsibility in an interview can take a long walk off a short pier.
This post was edited on 9/2/26 at 3:56 pm
Posted on 9/2/26 at 4:21 pm to sidewalkside
Boohoo, you can’t get a superstar that wants to be overworked and underpaid
Posted on 9/2/26 at 4:49 pm to sidewalkside
quote:The internet.
How did we get here?!?!
Posted on 9/2/26 at 4:51 pm to Death_By_Cookies
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overworked and underpaid
95% of people say this and maybe 15% meet both criteria. This post was edited on 9/2/26 at 4:52 pm
Posted on 9/2/26 at 4:53 pm to sidewalkside
Waiting for BabyTac input before I comment.
Posted on 9/2/26 at 5:26 pm to UGATiger26
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However, I'd imagine AI has rendered my filter meaningless nowadays.
The willingness try to use the tools around you is also a good sign. People message me all the time with random questions that they could easily ask Google. I would never hire those people.
Posted on 9/2/26 at 6:16 pm to BoogaBear
Need to return to the old days of paper resumes via email or mail and actual human review. Computerized and AI job application sites suck for applicants. And many are fake. Both sides lose.
Posted on 9/2/26 at 6:21 pm to Dixie2023
No
Posted on 9/2/26 at 6:24 pm to SidetrackSilvera
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You've been demoralized, bud.
have you read his post history?
baw is all doom and gloom.
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