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re: Were the French the weakest group of people in modern history?

Posted on 5/13/20 at 12:40 pm to
Posted by ShoeBang
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Posted on 5/13/20 at 12:40 pm to
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French the weakest group of people in modern history?


Not even close.
Posted by heatom2
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 5/13/20 at 12:47 pm to
It amazes me the attitude that modern Americans, especially southerners, have towards the french. There is no USA without the french, we'd still be spending money with Queen Elizabeth on it without them. They are our oldest allies.
Posted by deltaland
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Posted on 5/13/20 at 12:49 pm to
Posted by Buck_Rogers
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 5/13/20 at 12:49 pm to
A long time ago, the British and French were at War. During one battle, the French captured an English major. They took the major to their headquarters and a French general began to question him.

The French general asked 'why do you English officers all wear red coats? Don't you know the red material makes you easy targets for us to shoot?'.

In his bland English way, the major informed the general that the reason English officers wear red coats is so that if they are shot, the blood won't show and the men they are leading won't panic.

And that is why from that day to now, all French army officers wear brown pants.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
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Posted on 5/13/20 at 12:49 pm to
Mais, we get our navigational skills from them, us.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 5/13/20 at 12:49 pm to
The French probably have the greatest collective military history of any nation in the world.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 5/13/20 at 12:50 pm to
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The French were the best army in the world for about 180 years. The US, in contrast, has been the best for about 110 years.
What metric are you using for best? Didn't we have the 8th largest army or something like that prior to WW2?
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
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Member since May 2013
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Posted on 5/13/20 at 1:05 pm to
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The way they laid down at the feet of the Nazis in WWII was pretty pathetic.



They had one bad game and everyone just writes them off.
Posted by cypresstiger
The South
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 5/13/20 at 1:13 pm to
The French fought their balls off in ww1 and ww2
WW1 yes but Not so much ww2. They collapsed in front of the German invasion, and in many cases stacked their guns before there were Germans in the area. Then there was the Vichy thing too.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 5/13/20 at 1:13 pm to
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There was also Joan of Arc.

So France does just fine if it isn't led by a Frenchman.



France as some form of cohesive entity stretches back some 1500 years. There isn't a nation on earth that can match their line up of leaders, battles, etc.:
- Clovis
- Charles Martel
- Roland
- Charlemagne
- William the Conqueror
- Virtually all of the major Crusaders (Baldwin, Godfrey, Raymond of Toulouse, etc.) in the first - and most successful - Crusade
- Philip Augustus
- Charles of Anjou
- du Guesclin
- Jeanne d'Arc
- de Foix
- Henry IV (one of the greatest European generals and rulers in history - virtually unknown in America)
- Richelieu
- All of the great generals under the Sun King (Conde, de Maille-Breze, Crequy, etc.)
- Lafayette
- Pre-Napoleon Revolutionary generals (Kellermann, Jourdan, etc.)
- Besides Napoleon, who is obvious, his lieutenants were arguably the most talented and able generation of generals in European history: Davout, Lannes, Soult, Ney, Massena, Bernadotte, Murat, etc.
- Petain (WWI)
- de Gaulle
- Leclerc
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/13/20 at 1:15 pm to
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The French fought their balls off in ww1 and ww2
WW1 yes but Not so much ww2. They collapsed in front of the German invasion, and in many cases stacked their guns before there were Germans in the area. Then there was the Vichy thing too.

The French still lost 100,000 more people than America did in WW2....

Americans really don’t know what true sacrifices other countries made during the world wars. They assume everyone else just stood around jacking off while ‘merica saves the day
This post was edited on 5/13/20 at 1:16 pm
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
24519 posts
Posted on 5/13/20 at 1:35 pm to
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Sarcasm is sarcasm my friends. I’m bored today.


bullshite. You put out a dumb thought and, rightly, got roasted for it. It was a miss. Take it on the chin and do better next time. Don't try and claim "sarcasm".
Posted by No Colors
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Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 5/13/20 at 1:39 pm to
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Would make for an awesome movie.

Wonder why it's never really been done on the scale of a Hollywood epic, like Private Ryan or Iwo Jima?

Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 5/13/20 at 1:40 pm to
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The way they laid down at the feet of the Nazis in WWII was pretty pathetic.



That's a dumb take. The French forces were known to be bad asses. Their leadership was arrogant and made some bad strategic moves like under-estimating the German's willingness to gamble. It wasn't for lack of fighting ability.
Posted by Switzerland
Member since Jun 2008
1671 posts
Posted on 5/13/20 at 1:43 pm to
Over 85k Frenchmen died in six weeks of fighting before they surrendered. In comparison the US lost 58k in all of Vietnam and 7k in Iraq/Afghanistan
Posted by mikelbr
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Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 5/13/20 at 1:44 pm to
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The way they laid down at the feet of the Nazis in WWII was pretty pathetic.



You might wanna do a 5 minute Googley Wormhole on the French in WWI before you rag on their WW2 performance.

The French set a fricking morbid record in WWI b/c they were some brave albeit unprepared motherfrickers. Go do your own research since you started this stupid arse thread.
Posted by sanora
Member since Feb 2019
1630 posts
Posted on 5/13/20 at 1:45 pm to
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Other than during the days of Napoleon, are the French historically the world’s biggest pussies?

The way they laid down at the feet of the Nazis in WWII was pretty pathetic.



wanna know how i know you were watching fox news in the mid 2000s
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 5/13/20 at 1:45 pm to
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Were the French the weakest group of people in modern history?



I mean, the United States probably doesn't win the Revolution without the French military. We should be flying French flags on the 4th of July in addition to the American flag.
Posted by Bushwackers
Ridin' shotgun with Reese Bobby!
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 5/13/20 at 1:48 pm to
Also the battle of NO would have been tough to win without Lafittes band, who were badasses in their own right.
Posted by ForLSU56
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Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 5/13/20 at 1:48 pm to
No.
They mistakenly relied on what was basically a useless "defensive" line (The Maginot) and as mentioned in another comment, were tired of the slaughter (WWI).

What does seem to rankle many WWII historians is the way De Gaulle did the tuck and run and then marched down the streets of Paris after the US liberated them.
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