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re: Were the French the weakest group of people in modern history?
Posted on 5/13/20 at 3:11 pm to VolsOut4Harambe
Posted on 5/13/20 at 3:11 pm to VolsOut4Harambe
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Were the French the weakest group of people in modern history?
Stop watching South Park
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Posted on 5/13/20 at 3:14 pm to SCLSUMuddogs
American peril fascinated me as did the destroyer of worlds.
My favorite is blueprint and the khans. I need to go and listen to Celtic holocaust again because I really didn’t enjoy it all that much.
What I really wish we had more info on was the German people that sacked Rome prior, that forced the celts to flee, and stopped the Roman advance into the continent.
My favorite is blueprint and the khans. I need to go and listen to Celtic holocaust again because I really didn’t enjoy it all that much.
What I really wish we had more info on was the German people that sacked Rome prior, that forced the celts to flee, and stopped the Roman advance into the continent.
Posted on 5/13/20 at 3:17 pm to VolsOut4Harambe
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The way they laid down at the feet of the Nazis in WWII was pretty pathetic.
more Nazis were killed per day fighting the French than any of the other allies.
Posted on 5/13/20 at 3:21 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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What I really wish we had more info on was the German people that sacked Rome prior, that forced the celts to flee, and stopped the Roman advance into the continent.
Some of the recent archaeology on this has been really interesting.
There is mounting evidence that the Roman military pretty consistently penetrated Germania up to at least the Elbe if not the Oder even after Teutoberg but didn't stay, not because the Germans were too difficult to subdue, but because there wasn't shite there that they actually wanted.
Posted on 5/13/20 at 3:23 pm to ChewyDante
Here is a good read about the largest tank battle in the world (to date) in the early days of WWII.
Battle of Hannut
Battle of Hannut
Posted on 5/13/20 at 3:24 pm to Oilfieldbiology
There's another podcast called The History of Rome that covers just about anything you could ever want to know about The Western Roman empire, it's founding and it's end. There are a crazy amount of episodes and the dude doesn't get going until around 45 or so, but it's full of information.
He also has a podcast called Revolutions, which is exactly what you think it's about
He also has a podcast called Revolutions, which is exactly what you think it's about
Posted on 5/13/20 at 3:28 pm to AbuTheMonkey
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not because the Germans were too difficult to subdue, but because there wasn't shite there that they actually wanted.
I agree to a point. I would say that the whole "QUINTILIUS VARUS! GIVE ME BACK MY LEGIONS!" deal also had a good bit to do with Rome saying "frick that place"
Posted on 5/13/20 at 3:29 pm to VolsOut4Harambe
Things for VolsOut4Harambe to google:
Battle of Toulouse
Charlemagne
1066 and the Angevin Empire
The Crusades
The Hundred Year's War
The Antipope
The Thirty Year's War
New France
The American Revolution
Napoleon
That's literally 1000+ years of kicking arse. Maybe try reading a book every now and then. Or at least watch a history documentary on YouTube or some shite. Good lord.
Battle of Toulouse
Charlemagne
1066 and the Angevin Empire
The Crusades
The Hundred Year's War
The Antipope
The Thirty Year's War
New France
The American Revolution
Napoleon
That's literally 1000+ years of kicking arse. Maybe try reading a book every now and then. Or at least watch a history documentary on YouTube or some shite. Good lord.
Posted on 5/13/20 at 3:32 pm to TxTiger82
They lost 50,000 at The Marne. One battle, in World War l.
They were truly gutted before WWll.
They were truly gutted before WWll.
Posted on 5/13/20 at 3:34 pm to VolsOut4Harambe
It depends on the era and the hubris for France but they weren't cowards. Sometimes fools but definitely a bloodthirst only matched by the Germans after the 1600's.
WWII was right after France shouldered the fight for WWI and a revisit to that hell. For six weeks fighting, and a smashing success for Germany, France still knocked out Germany's plans for the East. And from there it was poor decision after poor decision leading to Barbarossa. France's sins aren't that it surrendered. Its sins are that they turned Quisling and the only way to attempt to retain even a smidgen for shipping out their people to be murdered was to pretend the French Resistance existed in any meaningful way.
WWII was right after France shouldered the fight for WWI and a revisit to that hell. For six weeks fighting, and a smashing success for Germany, France still knocked out Germany's plans for the East. And from there it was poor decision after poor decision leading to Barbarossa. France's sins aren't that it surrendered. Its sins are that they turned Quisling and the only way to attempt to retain even a smidgen for shipping out their people to be murdered was to pretend the French Resistance existed in any meaningful way.
Posted on 5/13/20 at 3:36 pm to VolsOut4Harambe
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The way they laid down at the feet of the Nazis in WWII was pretty pathetic.
Never confuse the will of the people with the will of it's government.
The French government at the time of WW2 had very ineffectual leadership both politically and militarily. Also, there was a strong right wing sentiment (European politics) that played a role in the hurried surrender as well.
The Maginot Line was actually a state of the art defense system considering military doctrine of the early 20th century.
It was overcome because the Germans invented blitzkrieg warfare that nobody was prepared for. They also took advantage of Belgium neutrality which allowed them avoid the line altogether. France didn't have control over Belgium.
Posted on 5/13/20 at 3:36 pm to zeebo
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They lost 50,000 at The Marne. One battle, in World War l.
They were truly gutted before WWll.
I think they lost close to 30,000 men in one day during The Battle of The Frontiers. Early part of the war, prior to the implementation of trench warfare.
ETA: Also, to add on to the above regarding the advance through Belgium to avoid the Maginot line. French and British forces fully expected the German assault to come through Belgium. Part of the reason for the Maginot line was to push the fight north towards Belgium.
If the French couldn't see a move through Belgium and Luxembourg coming, then they had completely forgotten what happened less about 2 decades prior, when the German army initiated the "Schlieffen Plan" which eventually led to "The Rape of Belgium."
The problem this go 'round was neither the French nor the British thought it was possible for the German army to advance through the Ardennes forest as quickly as they did. The French thought it would take at least 4 days for the Germans to cross the Ardennes and reach Meuse river, which would give the allies plenty of time to move pieces around belgium and prepare for an assault. The Germans were able to do it in 24 hours, which, in the end, led to the Allied army getting encircled. Luckily Dunkirk happened, which saved a huge chunk of forces, otherwise the world may be a different place today.
This post was edited on 5/13/20 at 3:48 pm
Posted on 5/13/20 at 3:37 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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What I really wish we had more info on was the German people that sacked Rome prior, that forced the celts to flee, and stopped the Roman advance into the continent.
You are in Luck. He did a Blitz one called Thor’s Angels
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Click on the pic and it will take you to it
This post was edited on 5/13/20 at 3:41 pm
Posted on 5/13/20 at 3:40 pm to AbuTheMonkey
You failed to mention Count de Money (pronounced de Monet)
Posted on 5/13/20 at 3:45 pm to SCLSUMuddogs
I’ve listened to both. Love them.
Posted on 5/13/20 at 3:48 pm to fr33manator
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greatest Italian military Victories
Roman republic? Empire?
Posted on 5/13/20 at 3:54 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
Don’t dissect the joke man. I’m obviously talking about modern Italy
I count “Roman” and “Italian” as two vastly different entities.
Roman was much more than Italy and Italian is a far cry from Roman
I count “Roman” and “Italian” as two vastly different entities.
Roman was much more than Italy and Italian is a far cry from Roman
This post was edited on 5/13/20 at 3:55 pm
Posted on 5/13/20 at 3:57 pm to fr33manator
I listened to that one too. I needed MORE!
Posted on 5/13/20 at 3:58 pm to VolsOut4Harambe
French soldiers themselves are pretty tough. They took the brunt of the German attack in The Great War.
Go look at the casualties for Dien Bien Phu. Problem wasn't the quality of the French troops.
Go look at the casualties for Dien Bien Phu. Problem wasn't the quality of the French troops.
Posted on 5/13/20 at 4:03 pm to VolsOut4Harambe
Charles Martel, you dumbfrick.
If not for him you’d be praying to Allah 5 times a day.
If not for him you’d be praying to Allah 5 times a day.
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