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re: We ended the American mafia

Posted on 4/23/26 at 6:16 pm to
Posted by HarryHoudini
Member since Oct 2025
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Posted on 4/23/26 at 6:16 pm to
Pretty much yeah.

Hell people won’t even say out loud the actual problem bc of being feared racist.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/23/26 at 6:32 pm to
We certainly need to make examples of poor behavior.
Posted by mule74
Watersound Beach
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 4/23/26 at 6:35 pm to
The mafia was an organization. We penetrated the organization. It was like killing an elephant.

Most modern gangs in the United States are disorganized. They have no affiliation with each other. It’s like trying to step on ants.

And honestly, it allows them to be more violent. The mafia killed people, but for the most part it was about business. Murders were bad for business, so it was best to keep them to a minimum.

Gangsters today have no plans to make a career out of it.
This post was edited on 4/23/26 at 6:38 pm
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
35476 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 7:03 pm to
quote:

Crime is way fricking down, almost everywhere, just so everyone knows.

And it's nothing like the hellscape that was 1975-1995


You post this regularly and it’s so fricking meaningless. “Down” from what?

It was too high then and it’s too high now. I don’t care if it’s down.



Posted by PurpleandGold Motown
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Oct 2007
24344 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 7:06 pm to
We could defeat the Germans but not the illiterate camel jockeys. The reasons are the same.
Posted by wfallstiger
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jun 2006
15697 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 7:08 pm to
Re-establish the American mafia

Problem solved
Posted by PurpleandGold Motown
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Oct 2007
24344 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 7:09 pm to
quote:

And honestly, it allows them to be more violent. The mafia killed people, but for the most part it was about business. Murders were bad for business, so it was best to keep them to a minimum.


I tried to explain this to my Uncles a few months back. I had some experience with the cartels when I lived down south and that was how most of them were. If you weren't in their world, you didn't exist to them. They weren't seeking you out, but good luck if you ever borrowed money or dealt with them. Nuevo Jalisco is different. They are a bunch of coked out teenagers and just want to burn down the world. They are not...business minded.
Posted by PurpleandGold Motown
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Oct 2007
24344 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 7:10 pm to
quote:

Re-establish the American mafia

Problem solved


They did do their part to defeat communism and fascism. I mean...for their own ends, but they did contribute.
Posted by Ihatethiscity
Garden District
Member since May 2022
299 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 8:04 pm to
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I guarantee the good people in those communities will start ratting them out once they see we have their back.


My brother in Christ go watch The Wire before posting about this topic ever again.
Posted by Lou Loomis
A pond. Ponds good for you.
Member since Mar 2025
1933 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 8:13 pm to
It was a huge mistake to go after the mafia. Columbians, Mexicans, Russians and Puerto Ricans just replaced them and they are far more vicious. And it was all done just for political points. The mafia kept their neighborhoods safe and except on a very rare occasion, kept the violence in house. So, everybody had to pay a 2-3% mafia tax. Big freakin deal. .
Posted by Woolfpack
Member since Jun 2021
1701 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 8:37 pm to
RICO laws badly damaged the Italian mafia in NYC.

The lure of trafficking drugs badly hurt them as well because of the lengthy prison sentences associated with it. The lengthy prison sentences caused a lot of mobsters to make deals with the government when they got caught.

The Italian neighborhoods that had everyone knowing each other their whole lives dont exist anymore.

Legalized sports betting will be the nail in the coffin.

Major mafia figures from back in the day have YouTube channels telling all their stories.

Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
14007 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 11:10 pm to
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Doesn’t matter. Look at El Salvador. Cartels are way more ruthless and we’re paying of the politicians and army. And they still ended it with overwhelming enforcement of harsh sentences and mass arrests.


Bukele basically paid off the leaders to give up all of the low level dudes and gave them absolutely no due process. It’s great that El Salvador has some of its lowest violence ever, but that’s not a replicable process to take.
Posted by South21
Member since Jul 2019
1823 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 11:14 pm to
The premise of this thread is idiotic. This is cultural rot not an organization.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
60490 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 11:16 pm to
Did we end the mafia or did those Italians grow out of, or get tired of, street crime? It is semantics but the other group isn't going to realize that killing rivals isn't worth it.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
Undisclosed Secure Location
Member since Feb 2008
24771 posts
Posted on 4/24/26 at 4:46 am to
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guerilla



Hmmmmmm
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
59131 posts
Posted on 4/24/26 at 5:51 am to
quote:

We ended the American mafia
Why can we end black gang violence?


The mafia was an organization, it had communication channels, a hierarchy, etc.

The street gangs are mostly independent cells of a handful of people who interact with other gangs as much and as randomly as they interact with people who aren't in gangs. It's like trying to pick out which people in a crowd of thousands like mustard over mayonnaise (or vice versa) without directly asking them.

The root of the cause for most of this is shitty parenting, often generational. Up to 8yrs old is the most important developmental time in a child's life. It's when they form their first trust bonds, basic self-regulation, empathy, emotional security, responsibility, routines, etc. which lays down the foundation for their building of impulse control, relating to others and determining "good" from "bad".

When you spend those years with a parent (or parents) who don't give a frick about fighting in front of you, blaring music about "bitches be hoes," "I'mma kill a nigggah," getting stoned, getting drunk, cheating on partners, keeping their home and yards like shite, getting face and neck tats, etc. then that's what you are likely to grow up emulating. Get enough "families" like that in an area together and you end up with a community like that.

Now bring in some opportunists who tell these families that their shitty lives and shitty communities aren't at all due to their own behaviors but how some nebulous group of "them" is responsible for their shitty lives. Congrats! You've just taken a group suffering primarily due to their lack of self-accountability and given them an outlet to double-down on their negative behaviors.

And here we are, whether you're talking about the housing projects of the trailer parks. And the worst part of it all is that they (as predicted by the movie Idiocracy) breed far more than the families which better hand down the traits of personal responsibility and personal accountability.
Posted by nealnan8
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2016
4662 posts
Posted on 4/24/26 at 6:29 am to
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We ended the American mafia

Yes and no. The Mafia just morphed into lawyers, CEOs and most of all, politicians.
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
20002 posts
Posted on 4/24/26 at 6:37 am to
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Major mafia figures from back in the day have YouTube channels telling all their stories.



And it's funny watching Michael Franzese and Sammy Gravano argue with each other over the net about the roles they played in the Mafia and which one was more "Honorable".

Like 2 schoolyard bullies hurling insults at each other--------from a distance.
Posted by Knuckle Checker
Member since Jan 2019
677 posts
Posted on 4/24/26 at 6:57 am to
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We could defeat the Germans but not the illiterate camel jockeys. The reasons are the same.


Correct. And the reason is we are afraid of total war. We went to wipe out the Nazis. We nuked the Japanese. We went in 100%. Not some half arse regime change. And I’m not saying we should go into the Middle East 100%. I’m just saying there is a difference.


And it parallels with the black violence issue. If we went at it 100% it would definitely be solved. Instead we do half arse measures and reactive policing.

There is plenty of data to show that broken windows policing reduces crime.
Posted by Defenseiskey
Houston, TX
Member since Nov 2010
2138 posts
Posted on 4/24/26 at 7:04 am to
Because "organized" crime is mostly a white thing.

Gang violence is less centralized and people also don't want to. E called racist by the liberals.
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