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re: Was Louisiana always as bad as it is now?

Posted on 2/27/18 at 3:44 pm to
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 3:44 pm to
It was much worse before I got here.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41698 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 3:44 pm to
Always as bad? This is probably the best the state has been in 100 years.

The public schools used to be worse. The crime used to be worse. The oil bust was absymal. The corruption was much, much worse.

We have progressed to the point where we are only 20-25 years behind the rest of the country... used to be like 40.
Posted by LSUballs
P.A.I.G
Member since Feb 2008
40408 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 3:44 pm to
I travel the country constantly and I’ve yet to see these meccas of awesomeness people always allude to. Iowa? Give me a break. Bland food and boring honkies. Much of Louisiana is certainly a shithole. But unless you are some broke dick you can insulate yourself from much of the shittyness Louisiana has to offer, if you’re so inclined. What I’m saying is I like to see homos naked. I mean home is where you make it.
Posted by Popths
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
4549 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 3:47 pm to
You sound like a half empty glass kinda guy. If it aint what you're looking for, expand your horizons.
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
8599 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 3:49 pm to
Seems like NOLA was a little better back when Marcello ran all the crime. It's a free for all these days
Posted by X123F45
Dictated not Read
Member since Apr 2015
30044 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 3:49 pm to
quote:

I never realized just how bad it was until I got older and started traveling. This shite is bad, yet I'm still living here for some reason.



I don't know where the hell you people travel to. But I just drove to Toronto from louisiana, and back down along the coast.

Our highways are cleaner than any state I drove through. They are significantly smoother than all I drove through. Law enforcement in Kentucky, Ohio, PA, and NY were brutally incompetent at directing traffic around an accident. Hospitality businesses in every state I went to were rude, incompetent, or both.

I got bad news for you, when it comes to doing alright, Louisiana is fine as always.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
21543 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 3:55 pm to
I don't think there's been any seismic changes in for who knows how long. I would simply point out:

a) It's pretty hard to go bad-wrong in America unless you're stuck in some inner-city type place.
b) LA has lots of ok, if not good places to live, even if none are out-n-out great places to live.
Posted by NewIberiaHaircut
Lafayette
Member since May 2013
12548 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 3:58 pm to
quote:

I don't know where the hell you people travel to. But I just drove to Toronto from louisiana, and back down along the coast.

Our highways are cleaner than any state I drove through.


No, just no.

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They are significantly smoother than all I drove through.




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Law enforcement in Kentucky, Ohio, PA, and NY were brutally incompetent at directing traffic around an accident.


No doubt, but as someone who regularly drives through our (supposedly poor) neighboring states, MS and AR, our roads are worse and our law enforcement is ever present. I can drive from Lafayette to McComb and see 15 officers. I can drive from McComb to Memphis and see maybe 2 officers. Hell, I've driven from Lafayette to Rogers, AR and never saw a cop once I crossed the line into AR.
Posted by jlovel7
NOT Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
24261 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 3:58 pm to
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But we have CULCHA!!!!!!!!



I've been many other places and lived on the east coast for the first 20 years of my life. Compared to Louisiana, most other places are so bland. People here just love life (yes there is also higher crime). People love to bitch but honestly if you take things into your own hands then a lot of the problems aren't really as big as people make them seem. But people love to bitch about things and then never do anything to help.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 4:00 pm to
To been going downhill since the 60s. It wasn't too bad in the 70s but started fading quickly in the 80s

Probably related to the kinds of industry. Old southern towns had saw mills and were more self sufficient. As that died off, retail took over as the industry of small town La, interstates opened the country up and brain drain occurred.

It wasn't a bad place for me to grow up for sure.
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa-Here to Serve
Member since Aug 2012
17380 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 4:02 pm to
Crawfish beats your GMO corn every single time.
Posted by Tactical1
Denham Springs
Member since May 2010
27179 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 4:04 pm to
No
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 4:05 pm to
quote:

It's always been this bad. At least since I've been alive. But I was a kid and didn't know any better so I enjoyed it.


This is the correct answer.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 4:06 pm to
quote:

I've been many other places and lived on the east coast for the first 20 years of my life. Compared to Louisiana, most other places are so bland. People here just love life (yes there is also higher crime). People love to bitch but honestly if you take things into your own hands then a lot of the problems aren't really as big as people make them seem. But people love to bitch about things and then never do anything to help.


Yep, quality of life is what you make it to be. Most things people complain about are things they just read on Reddit of somewhere else. I didn't dislike La as much as most people who post here. Sure it has issues but every place does.
Posted by Ole War Skule
North Shore
Member since Sep 2003
3409 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 4:08 pm to
Nope.

New Orleans was the ONLY city in the south prior to WWII. After WWII, the rest of the south boomed. Louisiana went backwards. Corrupt gov't, poor work ethic of the population, and pride in ignorance are strong here!

The last 40 years have seen Louisiana decline as the rest of the south booms. We celebrate Mardi Gras, food, and drink. We promote a party lifestyle to draw tourism and start believing the story ourselves. It's MUCH worse now than the 60s, 70s, and 80s.

Without natural resources (oil, sugar, Mississippi River, deep water ports etc) we would be Haiti


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Posted by LSUEnvy
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Member since May 2011
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 4:08 pm to
Lake Chuck is better now than it was 25 yrs ago
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Member since Feb 2018
53839 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 4:13 pm to
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Yep, quality of life is what you make it to be. Most things people complain about are things they just read on Reddit of somewhere else. I didn't dislike La as much as most people who post here. Sure it has issues but every place does.

I don't either. LA certainly has a its issues but I've been to a lot of other places that I disliked more. Granted that's pretty subjective.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8720 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 4:13 pm to
quote:

I travel the country constantly and I’ve yet to see these meccas of awesomeness people always allude to. Iowa? Give me a break. Bland food and boring honkies. Much of Louisiana is certainly a shithole. But unless you are some broke dick you can insulate yourself from much of the shittyness Louisiana has to offer, if you’re so inclined. What I’m saying is I like to see homos naked. I mean home is where you make it.


One thing that I've noticed living all around the country is that the rural South and Appalachia was real, real rough compared to the rural Midwest, rural West, and rural Northeast. Driving across rural Michigan or rural Wisconsin o rural Colorado is like night and day compared to rural Georgia or Louisiana or Kentucky. It kind of startled me the first time I drove through rural Wisconsin how well-taken care of things are there.

The cities and suburbs tend to be fairly similar in my opinion in quality of life all across the country (with some major outliers in either direction like Detroit or New York).

That's changed a little bit in the last ten years as rural areas across the country have dipped all across the board, but I think it's still noticeable.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
48706 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 4:37 pm to
No simple answers to that. Some things were better but only marginally and most were the same or worse. Go back far enough (within my lifetime, I'm 56) and I'm pretty sure it was way worse for black folks.

These indicators they use to compare the states will hit those things that really hurt Louisiana. Poor overall quality of education, horrible fiscal management, crumbling infrastructure now that federal monies are dwindling, high crime rates in the most populous areas.

Interestingly, these types of comparisons that use different indicators to supposedly chart happiness always rate Louisiana high.

People here tend to enjoy gathering together, the people are generally friendly, even to strangers (that is different than most places I've traveled in the course of my profession) and the food, in general, is better here than just about anywhere (at least South Louisiana).

I could live other places but I do like Louisiana.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
71203 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 4:39 pm to
Corruption wise? Yes
New Orleans peaked in the early 70's.
Most of the rest of South Louisiana were essentially suckerpunched by the 80's oil crunch, the crack epidemic, and the raising of the drinking age to 21 and have never truly recovered.
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