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re: VIDEO: Florida woman kills man. . .over WalMart parking space. NSFW Could be SYG or murder
Posted on 7/3/26 at 7:18 am to tylercsbn9
Posted on 7/3/26 at 7:18 am to tylercsbn9
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She was safe in her car. Guy wasn’t up in her face in anything at her window. If he was then it’s stand your ground. So she’s safe in her car and the guy is what just yelling at her from a decent distance? She then gets out with the gun? That’s not stand your ground.
Is there video showing this? Because if so, she may be in trouble
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Posted on 7/3/26 at 7:19 am to diat150
quote:If this is true, I reverse my position.
The woman, whom deputies haven’t identified, is seen getting out of her car holding a phone in her left hand and a gun in her right hand. A witness told 7News that before the female shooter got out of her car, she had gotten into an argument over a parking space with Diguglielmo. At one point, the witness said, Diguglielmo parked his white SUV in a way that blocked the shooter from parking. Minutes later, however, he would unblock the space, allowing the woman to pull in. According to the witness, the woman then got out of her car and spoke briefly with those inside the white SUV.
This is not SYG or self-defense.
Posted on 7/3/26 at 7:22 am to Scruffy
Im interested in yalls opinion on if stand your ground applies after you have advanced/escalated the confrontation. If she did in fact exit the car gun in hand after the confrontation had already initiated, is she standing her ground or is she now the aggressor?
I guess thats probably the bazillion dollar question and also what I was getting at with my earlier comment about shooting someone in my own yard. Does the SYG argument lose merit if you were offensive at any point or is it a score type thing, she 10 defensive things and 2 offensive things so therefore she was standing her ground?
I guess thats probably the bazillion dollar question and also what I was getting at with my earlier comment about shooting someone in my own yard. Does the SYG argument lose merit if you were offensive at any point or is it a score type thing, she 10 defensive things and 2 offensive things so therefore she was standing her ground?
Posted on 7/3/26 at 7:23 am to Scruffy
The longer video starts at the point of her getting out the car with the gun after they had the argument over the spot. She was clearly
Irate with gun at her side. The man walks up and you can see him stumble back once the woman raises the gun so I dont think he knew she had the gun at that point. The van then leaves. Then we see him following her and whatnot.
Audio of what happened is gonna tell the story.
Irate with gun at her side. The man walks up and you can see him stumble back once the woman raises the gun so I dont think he knew she had the gun at that point. The van then leaves. Then we see him following her and whatnot.
Audio of what happened is gonna tell the story.
This post was edited on 7/3/26 at 7:25 am
Posted on 7/3/26 at 7:26 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
quote:IMO, and I would likely be backed up by the law, stand your ground does not apply here if she got out with the gun and continued or initiated the confrontation.
Im interested in yalls opinion on if stand your ground applies after you have advanced/escalated the confrontation. If she did in fact exit the car gun in hand after the confrontation had already initiated, is she standing her ground or is she now the aggressor?
Now, FL’s SYG law doesn’t require retreating, but it also doesn’t apply if you were the aggressor, which the above appears to paint her as.
If what was posted above is true, I no longer believe she acted in self-defense.
quote:You cannot be the aggressor.
Does the SYG argument lose merit if you were offensive at any point or is it a score type thing, she 10 defensive things and 2 offensive things so therefore she was standing her ground?
For your example, you would go to prison as you have no “imminent bodily harm or threat to life or limb” component if someone is simply yelling at you from your yard.
Now, if he forced himself into your home, sure.
If you went on your porch and stood there watching and waiting, you could make the argument if they moved aggressively towards you, but that just gets murky and a jury could still frick you, IMO.
This post was edited on 7/3/26 at 7:31 am
Posted on 7/3/26 at 7:50 am to Roaad
The premise is that she pulled a weapon over a parking spot.
He was unarmed.
I don't give a shite how close he got to her.
She was in the wrong when she drew....
He was unarmed.
I don't give a shite how close he got to her.
She was in the wrong when she drew....
Posted on 7/3/26 at 7:55 am to Portballs
quote:She retreated multiple times, SYG you don't even have to retreat
The premise is that she pulled a weapon over fear of serious bodily harm.
The only part that could get squirrelly for her is the shite talk afterwards. But even that isn't certain
Posted on 7/3/26 at 7:57 am to Henry Jones Jr
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She gave him ample opportunity to just walk away but he chose not to.
She introduced deadly force to a situation that didn't even come close to requiring it.
She should go to prison for a long time.
Posted on 7/3/26 at 7:58 am to Roaad
quote:You should read the post at the top of this page.
She retreated multiple times, SYG you don't even have to retreat
The only part that could get squirrelly for her is the shite talk afterwards. But even that isn't certain
If that info is true, it is not a SYG or self-defense situation.
It is looking like she was the aggressor.
Posted on 7/3/26 at 7:59 am to Roaad
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She retreated multiple times, SYG you don't even have to retreat
Right, but she also advanced. She was the agressor at least once. Its not cut and dry here.
Posted on 7/3/26 at 8:16 am to Portballs
You have a right to defend from bodily harm. Not just weapons. It's the defense George Zimmerman used.
Posted on 7/3/26 at 8:18 am to Napoleon
Yep.
He was a trashy POS, but he was within his legal right to do what he did.
He was a trashy POS, but he was within his legal right to do what he did.
Posted on 7/3/26 at 8:24 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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I dont see how exiting the car with a gun drawn qualifies as stand your ground. Had she stayed in the car and shot him for trying to enter it, yes obviously. In this case it doesnt look that straight forward to me. Im pretty sure if someone is unarmed and in my yard shouting threats at me, I cant go outside and shoot them. And thats on my own property.
Bingo. Stand your ground means you don’t have a duty to retreat in a self defense situation. It is not its own thing.
There’s 4 factors of self defense:
1. Innocence: you can’t start the fight. Who knows who actually started the argument, but, her getting in her car, then, getting out while brandishing a gun will lose this factor for her. Based on what’s known, she escalated what was a verbal spat to a life or death spat with a gun involved
2. Imminence- Is the deadly force threat happening or about to happen? I don’t see it. Was the guy following her? Yes. Was he being an A%&? Yes Was he ready to kill her or threatening to kill her? I don’t see it. He didn’t pull a gun, he didn’t pull a knife, he didn’t even ball his fists like he was going to punch her. He never touched her.
3. Proportionality - You can only match the force used against you in self defense. He was following her and talking trash. A response to that isn’t shooting him! Again, at no point did he touch her. Details matter, a lot in self defense cases
4. Reasonableness - she was in her car, a safe place, also part of the castle doctrine. Got out of it with her gun drawn to confront a man approaching her. Not what a reasonable person would do.
As I see it, she fails on all 4 factors. Prosecutor only has to prove 1 factor did not exist to get a conviction.
Posted on 7/3/26 at 8:31 am to BradBallard
I am going to guess that the audio during this whole sequence is going to make things a lot worse for her…
Also looks like they were fighting over a parking spot. I see signs in the video was it a handicap spot? The man seemed to walk funny was he disabled? Was she one of those people that thinks they are entitled to a handicap spot or did she have a disability also? All going to be interesting pieces to the puzzle.
Also looks like they were fighting over a parking spot. I see signs in the video was it a handicap spot? The man seemed to walk funny was he disabled? Was she one of those people that thinks they are entitled to a handicap spot or did she have a disability also? All going to be interesting pieces to the puzzle.
Posted on 7/3/26 at 8:39 am to Proximo
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There was no fricking fight here You cannot shoot someone for walking toward you holy frick
And this is after he was seemingly walking away before she jumped out of her car with a gun.
You could argue self defense for him if that’s how it went down
Posted on 7/3/26 at 8:42 am to tylercsbn9
Yea, as more info has come to light, it is clearly not a case of self defense.
Posted on 7/3/26 at 8:42 am to Roaad
As anyone can see from the video, he is unarmed and slowly and barely even took a step toward her about a car length away and she shot him.
After he is shot she looks to be shouting and pointing at him as he is bleeding out from a gut shot.
How can she be walking free and not charged with cold blooded murder?
After he is shot she looks to be shouting and pointing at him as he is bleeding out from a gut shot.
How can she be walking free and not charged with cold blooded murder?
Posted on 7/3/26 at 8:44 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
quote:
in yalls opinion on if stand your ground applies after you have advanced/escalated the confrontation. If she did in fact exit the car gun in hand after the confrontation had already initiated, is she standing her ground or is she now the aggressor?
She is absolutely the aggressor
Posted on 7/3/26 at 8:46 am to Napoleon
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You have a right to defend from bodily harm. Not just weapons. It's the defense George Zimmerman used.
Zimmerman was being beaten and his head banged into concrete.
This woman was just standing there yelling
Not comparable at all
Posted on 7/3/26 at 8:48 am to diat150
quote:
going to guess that the audio during this whole sequence is going to make things a lot worse for her…
Also, there is probably a dying declaration from the victim. Think the article says he was transported to hospital but didnt survive.
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