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re: Update page 3 - Auto Insurance Question - Got hit in a parking lot

Posted on 5/3/22 at 2:00 pm to
Posted by IcedOutBart
Houston
Member since Jul 2017
161 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 2:00 pm to
He won’t really be fricked. It will show it was subrogated and no surcharge will be added.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101325 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 2:08 pm to
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They can. They don't have to in most jurisdictions, though. A few may even not allow it.


Wrong.

All the violations I listed fall under title 14 (criminal law).

Title 32 (motor vehicles and traffic regulations) is not applicable to private property.


I was responding to the statement that they could "write an accident report." I realized it also said "they could write a ticket."
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
23890 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 2:16 pm to
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There was no police report


You're screwed.

That being said are their video cams at the gas station?
This post was edited on 5/3/22 at 2:18 pm
Posted by ConfusedHawgInMO
Member since Apr 2014
3495 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 2:27 pm to
My kid got hit in a parking lot by someone without a license driving someone else's car and neither had insurance. My insurance handled it. Let yours handle it.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
21863 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 2:31 pm to
File the claim with your insurance. You'll be out of pocket your collision deductible. Then your insurance will deal with State Farm and subrogate to recoup the money they paid out on the claim and get your deductible refunded back to you if/when they successfully subrogate.

Best thing you can do in a parking lot situation where policy won't come out is to get plenty of pictures (preferably before the vehicles are moved) and video if possible of the other guy admitting fault.
Posted by JimEagle
Member since Apr 2021
28 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 3:17 pm to
Update - I looked up the LLC on the policy and called the Agent after some googling of his name.

Good ole baw said his employee did let him know and the guy riding with him was his daughters bf. Asked me to send over my contact info and he'd talk to his local guy that wrote the policy.

I also called State Farm back who apparently hadn't called anyone because they didn't have the guys number on file.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
19189 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 3:22 pm to
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I also called State Farm back who apparently hadn't called anyone

Par for the course in dealing with State Farm.
Posted by Vamos Brandonos
Member since Mar 2022
1021 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 3:24 pm to
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Asked me to send over my contact info and he'd talk to his local guy that wrote the policy.


I'm sure he'll get right on that.
Posted by MyRockstarComplex
The airport
Member since Nov 2009
3286 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 3:25 pm to
Pretty sure most companies won’t directly penalize you for a no-fault collision claim. However, you’ll be out your deductible and there are other levers the companies pull to move some of the risk into your premium.

That said, you’re by no means screwed unless you don’t carry collision coverage. Even then, I’ve got to assume the damage is about $750 and 2 days in the shop.
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 4:09 pm to
Understand

Surely Op has the idea to ask the place for a video copy of incident

BTW, an unlicensed driver was enough for cops to show. He also has passenger ID, insurance information, and witnesses.
Posted by Yewkindewit
Near Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Apr 2012
20024 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 4:48 pm to
In Alabama here each driver covers his/her/it/multi letter costs of repairs if the accident takes place on private property.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81608 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 5:28 pm to
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it ain't black and white
It's like, the law.
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
13616 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 5:44 pm to
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Called the cops and they told me to kick rocks as its private property.


What do they say when you break someone’s nose on private property after they back into your vehicle? Or worse, shoot someone? You don’t have to be on public property for police to have jobs to do.
Posted by Abraham H Parnassis
Member since Jul 2020
2552 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 6:26 pm to
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Cops were wrong to tell you that
Eh, different jurisdictions have different rules.

I policed for two different departments in two different states. One department operated like OP's police, the other was an info only report. In neither case was a UMVTCR filed. The second department only recorded names, VINs, date/time and a short narrative.
Posted by Abraham H Parnassis
Member since Jul 2020
2552 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 6:26 pm to
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What do they say when you break someone’s nose on private property after they back into your vehicle? Or worse, shoot someone? You don’t have to be on public property for police to have jobs to do.

Those would be obvious criminal charges involving substantial or serious bodily harm.

I get the parallel you're trying to draw, but it is a false equivalent.
Posted by Abraham H Parnassis
Member since Jul 2020
2552 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 6:29 pm to
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hit and run can get police involved.

Too bad it wasn't a hit and run though.
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
37359 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 6:43 pm to
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What do they say when you break someone’s nose on private property after they back into your vehicle? Or worse, shoot someone? You don’t have to be on public property for police to have jobs to do.


Private property crashes are civil matters. The agencies that will write them only do them as a courtesy. Two baws backing into each other on property where traffic laws cannot be enforced is not the cops’ problem.
Posted by Tiger in the Sticks
Back in the Boot
Member since Jan 2007
1431 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 7:03 pm to
On private property, it’s often referred to as an incident report & not a police report.

This is not legal advice, but I would check with the store to see if there’s video available.

Posted by UAinSOUTHAL
Mobile,AL
Member since Dec 2012
4826 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 7:56 pm to
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So coming home from family vacation (Gulf Shores) I stopped at a gas station to get my kid something to drink. I walk outside to find some baw in a mid 90s F250 backed out his his space too sharply and caught the bottom part of my vehicle. He was driving away until the wife created a scene which got him to pull back in.

Here's what I've got -

Guy had current State Farm policy - Under flooring company as holder
Guy driving didn't have his license on him
Passenger did and got a copy of his

Called the cops and they told me to kick rocks as its private property.

Now State Farm is saying they can't get in touch with the policy holder. It's been about a week since I opened the claim.

How screwed am I? Should I involve my insurance? My vehicle is brand new and its probably 2-4k in damage I'd assume. Any insight would be greatly appreciated.


Hope you got lots of pics of the accident with his plate visible and damage to both vehicles. Let you insurance company handle it that is why you pay them.
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
13833 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 8:03 pm to
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Don't stop at a trashy gas station with a brand new car.
Thank goodness this will no longer be an issue when all new cars are electric.
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