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re: UPDATE 265 Class Liftboat capsizes . New survivor story. Page 77
Posted on 4/20/21 at 10:00 pm to biohzrd
Posted on 4/20/21 at 10:00 pm to biohzrd
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It’s the device every offshore person will want/fight for when shite hits the fan. Like said above... basically an automatic beacon that the coastguard can go right to pretty much anywhere on earth. I’ll wait until/if the survivors stories come out, but I’m starting to feel that the Seacor Power flipped so fast it trapped people, and life saving devices underwater. If the rafts, epirb’s and other equipment was even up to date.
I’ve seen plenty of times inspectors come on the boats, and just punch the cards wo even looking at
The equipment.
It should be mandatory for everyone that works offshore or on a commercial vessel that is regulated by the USCG
Me and my friends all have one for whenever we are going offshore fishing or even when we’re the marsh or swamp.
Posted on 4/20/21 at 10:03 pm to biohzrd
quote:
’ve seen plenty of times inspectors come on the boats, and just punch the cards wo even looking at
The equipment.
And thanks for the name of the devices. Figured it was something of the sort but couldn't put words with letters.
This post was edited on 4/20/21 at 10:04 pm
Posted on 4/20/21 at 10:05 pm to tgrbaitn08
Where do you buy those. Thinking gifts for my boys.
Posted on 4/20/21 at 10:08 pm to tiger91
Just Google EPIRB and you can find a place around Laffy that sells them and will register them for you
If you want to email me I can get you how ever many you want for a better price and have them registered for you as well.
If you want to email me I can get you how ever many you want for a better price and have them registered for you as well.
Posted on 4/20/21 at 10:32 pm to tgrbaitn08
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It should be mandatory for everyone that works offshore or on a commercial vessel that is regulated by the USCG
Mandatory how? Are they going to keep it tied to them 24/7? Isnt the general consensus that half the crew was likely not even aware this was a bad situation until the boat flipped?
If you want to say that everyone offshore should have a life jacket with an epirb, I won’t disagree. But where else is it going to go and when are they going to wear it? We have to be realistic and admit that if these guys were sleeping when the ship flipped they wouldn’t have had any sort of emergency equipment on.
Posted on 4/20/21 at 10:39 pm to baldona
Calm down.
I didn’t say mandatory with a life jacket.
I simply said it should be mandatory to wear one
What would be so difficult to attach one on to your belt or pockets? Attach it like you do a pocket knife.
I didn’t say mandatory with a life jacket.
I simply said it should be mandatory to wear one
What would be so difficult to attach one on to your belt or pockets? Attach it like you do a pocket knife.
Posted on 4/20/21 at 10:43 pm to tgrbaitn08
I’m not upset man, no worries.
I was suggesting earlier in the thread that it seems crazy guys would not be awake and st the ready in case the shite hit the fan, and the general consensus was that this was fairly normal and guys were likely still asleep in their bunks.
If that’s the case, guys aren’t going to wear emergency equipment 24/7 it’s just not reasonable. We don’t know what happened, I don’t disagree with you. But let’s also remember that an epirb can be purchased privately additionally so guys could have had them on their own too right? I’m just not sure there’s ever a perfect response to situations like this.
I was suggesting earlier in the thread that it seems crazy guys would not be awake and st the ready in case the shite hit the fan, and the general consensus was that this was fairly normal and guys were likely still asleep in their bunks.
If that’s the case, guys aren’t going to wear emergency equipment 24/7 it’s just not reasonable. We don’t know what happened, I don’t disagree with you. But let’s also remember that an epirb can be purchased privately additionally so guys could have had them on their own too right? I’m just not sure there’s ever a perfect response to situations like this.
Posted on 4/20/21 at 10:55 pm to baldona
Posted on 4/20/21 at 11:10 pm to SWLA92
Found in the other engine room. So devastating.
Posted on 4/20/21 at 11:15 pm to SWLA92
So sad. Have had some bad dreams about what they must have gone through...
Posted on 4/21/21 at 4:18 am to SWLA92
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Looks like another crew member was found late tonight
Sadly, Quinon is my friend’s BIL
Posted on 4/21/21 at 6:34 am to tgrbaitn08
quote:
I simply said it should be mandatory to wear one
It’s hard enough to get most personal to wear the following that is mandatory.
Hard hat
Life vest
Fall protection
H2s monitor
Posted on 4/21/21 at 7:21 am to tiger91
Offshore suppliers on causeway. West marine.
Posted on 4/21/21 at 7:44 am to tgrbaitn08
quote:self inflating "float coats" we had in Navy were not cumbersome at all.... and they WORKED>
Just Google EPIRB and you can find a place around Laffy that sells them and will register them for you
If you want to email me I can get you how ever many you want for a better price and have them registered for you as well.
Posted on 4/21/21 at 8:08 am to choupiquesushi
I keep looking at those life rafts strapped to the handrails. Three of them so close.
Posted on 4/21/21 at 8:51 am to Ol boy
quote:
It’s hard enough to get most personal to wear the following that is mandatory.
Fall protection
that’s because at some plants the rules are absolutely stupid about this so baws get aggravated and don’t want to wear them even in spots they should.
Posted on 4/21/21 at 1:13 pm to tgrbaitn08
Quick lesson to clear some things up so no one buys the wrong thing.
First, an EPIRB would do absolutely ZERO good in this situation. An EPIRB (Emergency Position Indicating Radio Beaon) is a single device that is registered with the Coast Guard/NOAA to a SPECIFIC vessel. When activated, it sends a radio and sometimes gps signal to alert authorities of it's activation. This will lead rescuers to the general location of the beacon. An EPIRB has absolutely nothing to do with an individual and will not help you unless you in the immediate vicinity of it.
Secondly, I think tgrbaitn08 is suggesting everyone get a PLB (Personal Locater Beacon). A PLB is registered to your person, meaning you can attach it to your person and bring it literally anywhere you go. It works the same as an EPIRB, except the rescuers know EXACTLY who they are searching for, instead of a boat with an unknown number of occupants. A PLB will get rescuers within about a football field area of you.
The downside to PLB's is that they have to be manually activated and held with the antenna facing the sky. It will not work if you are unconscious. Neither a PLB nor an EPIRB will work if it is submerged. So, strapping a PLB to your belt or pockets, as suggested, is useless unless you are awake and able to grab it. In most cases, it needs to be held out of the water to work since it is much more susceptible to rough seas blocking signal.
Could a PLB have saved more lives in this incident? Impossible to know. As always, it's better to have an not need, than to need and not have, but if the guys were rendered unconscious or trapped under the water, nothing would have changed.
First, an EPIRB would do absolutely ZERO good in this situation. An EPIRB (Emergency Position Indicating Radio Beaon) is a single device that is registered with the Coast Guard/NOAA to a SPECIFIC vessel. When activated, it sends a radio and sometimes gps signal to alert authorities of it's activation. This will lead rescuers to the general location of the beacon. An EPIRB has absolutely nothing to do with an individual and will not help you unless you in the immediate vicinity of it.
Secondly, I think tgrbaitn08 is suggesting everyone get a PLB (Personal Locater Beacon). A PLB is registered to your person, meaning you can attach it to your person and bring it literally anywhere you go. It works the same as an EPIRB, except the rescuers know EXACTLY who they are searching for, instead of a boat with an unknown number of occupants. A PLB will get rescuers within about a football field area of you.
The downside to PLB's is that they have to be manually activated and held with the antenna facing the sky. It will not work if you are unconscious. Neither a PLB nor an EPIRB will work if it is submerged. So, strapping a PLB to your belt or pockets, as suggested, is useless unless you are awake and able to grab it. In most cases, it needs to be held out of the water to work since it is much more susceptible to rough seas blocking signal.
Could a PLB have saved more lives in this incident? Impossible to know. As always, it's better to have an not need, than to need and not have, but if the guys were rendered unconscious or trapped under the water, nothing would have changed.
This post was edited on 4/21/21 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 4/21/21 at 1:47 pm to choupiquesushi
quote:
self inflating "float coats"
Will self inflate inside of your boat compartment that got water in it while you were washing the boat......
Posted on 4/21/21 at 4:23 pm to Bigfishchoupique
I know it looks like that, but a situation similar to this without the flipping is the Trinity II liftboat incident that occurred in the Bay of Campeche. A crew from mainly South LA was working off the coast of Mexico when a tropical depression started to form. The choice was made to stay on the liftboat, and it was the wrong choice. Long story short, the call was made to evacuate the boat, and they attempted to pop both life rafts on the deck, which flew away in the 100 MPH winds. I really believe that would have happened here, and the one life raft that was found popped from the Seacore vessel was found in ST 39, which while not far from Fourchon, is pretty damn far considering it was only an hour after the boat flipped.
Posted on 4/21/21 at 4:46 pm to BadatBourre
There's a video on FB of a rescue being made Tuesday -- Spencer Gremillion shared it so I assume it's legit. It shows a survivor in an orange life raft and I guess what was a crew boat ...
Here's a link to NOLA.com with the video
Here's a link to NOLA.com with the video
This post was edited on 4/21/21 at 4:52 pm
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