re: TVA is asking people to conserve power in this time of high usage

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I worked for them 77-88. Nuclear power plant construction. Jimmy Carter destroyed the Nuclear plant construction industry.
At that time they had under construction two at Watts Bar, TN, two at Hartsville, TN, two at Yellow Creek, Ms, two at Bellefonte, Al, and a Breeder Reactor at Rogersville, TN. All were cancelled except they completed one, and later the second at Watts Bar and then unit 1 at Bellefonte.
It was an education about government operation. The dumbest most inefficient A-holes are promoted into management.

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Jimmy Carter did not kill nuclear energy, having the Atomic Energy Commission charged with both promoting AND regulating nuclear energy in its infancy did. The mistakes made in the early days of that obvious conflict of interest destroyed once very high public trust in the people in the nuclear industry and without Gerald Ford's creation of the NRC the public would have had them all shuttered and never spoken of again. Prior to this the industry was left to regulate itself...which in typical fashion, they proved unable or more likely unwilling to do. This lead to massive public trust issues which lead to the big bad NRC coming into existence and the rest is how we got here. When Jimmy Carter was president the NRC existed but the industry was still being managed financially by people who had existed during the age of the AEC and those people would climb a tree to skirt a requirement when they could stand on the ground and comply....and lost public trust even further, blamed it all on regulation that was not only common sense but also not overly difficult to comply with even today, and the public bought it hook line and sinker. In reaction regulations were stiffened without any way to enforce other than stripping of licenses and here we are. I have worked in the industry on and off for over 40 years...the industry is to blame, not the regulators. If they were left on their own there'd be nuclear reactors everywhere and there'd be accidents like those in rail roads, oil and gas and chemical industries but those accidents would be far more spectacular and costly. People do not want a nuke in their backyard now despite a stellar safety record in the industry, far greater than any other industry....they'd take to the streets with pitchforks and torches had the industry continued to promote and regulate itself because free market forces require more effort to promote than regulate.

Cheap power

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If you knew anything about three mile island you'd know the govt fumbled this from the start and have been covering their tracks ever since.

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TMI was designed and built by the private sector. That corporation famously designed a facility which would impress state politicians who had no idea what they were looking at. A great deal of effort and emphasis was placed on making it look safe...to the point of having psychiatrists on the design team to help with that perception. What was not considered, and was not until the NRC required it even after volumes had been written about it, was any effort spent on mitigating human performance errors. Seriously, this is a matter of record. The industry had fought any independent regulatory agency from its inception...an industry comprised of people who thought it wise to make something look safe without much concern about actually making it safe.

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Cool story about Three Mile Island, especially since you don't have a damn clue what you are talking about.

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I give hard links to actual studies done showing people got cancer after TMI, and you respond with commentary about radiation clouds giving rain in Washington being harmless, then claim I don't know anything .

Have a great day.

A good example of what is occurring here.

If you tell someone to look around them room and find everything that is brown and someone else to find everything that is red they will both only see what they are looking for and even try to justify gold, copper, beige as brown or maroon, orange, mahogany as red. A study trying to prove X happened will try and point everything with that brush (even if it's beige and not brown). The problem isn't your point of view or the other, it's that you see your point as irrefutable. Stop trying to make beige brown and dismissing people for saying it is so, maybe their red is orange and your gold is brown, but immediately dismissing their points and only listening to data points saying "everything is brown" doesn't make it so.

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TVA's future clean energy plans rely on NG, small nuclear reactors, solar, and wind, in that order.

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Something seems to be missing here. Maybe the cleanest energy of all. Something for which the TVA was established. Something for which the infrastructure is already in place and no kickbacks, grift, or backroom dealings will be necessary to continue to produce clean energy.

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So, they want the everyone to buy an EV.

Hell, they can't even provide juice to heat homes.

The average electric vehicle requires 30 kilowatt-hours to travel 100 miles — the same amount of electricity an average American home uses each day to run appliances, computers, lights and heating and air conditioning.

Typical of a well thought out 'gubmint' plan.

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Something tells me you're confused about who "they" are