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TVA is asking people to conserve power in this time of high usage
Posted on 1/16/24 at 3:41 pm
Posted on 1/16/24 at 3:41 pm
So, they want the everyone to buy an EV.
Hell, they can't even provide juice to heat homes.
The average electric vehicle requires 30 kilowatt-hours to travel 100 miles — the same amount of electricity an average American home uses each day to run appliances, computers, lights and heating and air conditioning.
Typical of a well thought out 'gubmint' plan.
Hell, they can't even provide juice to heat homes.
The average electric vehicle requires 30 kilowatt-hours to travel 100 miles — the same amount of electricity an average American home uses each day to run appliances, computers, lights and heating and air conditioning.
Typical of a well thought out 'gubmint' plan.
Posted on 1/16/24 at 3:45 pm to Darth Vol
I worked for that communist organization back in the 90's.
Can't believe Congress hasn't broken it up yet.
Can't believe Congress hasn't broken it up yet.
Posted on 1/16/24 at 3:46 pm to Darth Vol
Maybe if they kept those fossil plants online, they'd have enough generation capacity.
Posted on 1/16/24 at 3:46 pm to Darth Vol
At one time, TVA had plans for 17 nuclear reactors along the Tennessee River from Tennessee to Alabama to Mississippi.
Only 7 were built and operational today.
Thanks, Three Mile Island (conspiracy theory, anyone?),
Only 7 were built and operational today.
Thanks, Three Mile Island (conspiracy theory, anyone?),
Posted on 1/16/24 at 3:48 pm to Slippy
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I worked for that communist organization back in the 90's.
Can't believe Congress hasn't broken it up yet.
My older brother retired from there and said the same thing.
Too much money involved. Too many kickbacks from contractors.
Posted on 1/16/24 at 3:59 pm to East Coast Band
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Thanks, Three Mile Island
Remember that more people died at Chappaquiddick than at Three Mile Island.
Posted on 1/16/24 at 3:59 pm to Darth Vol
Wood stove for heat. Propane tankless water heater and range. I could power fridges and freezer w solar if needed.
Posted on 1/16/24 at 4:18 pm to busbeepbeep
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Maybe if they kept those fossil plants online, they'd have enough generation capacity.
The plant that failed in last year's cold was a 1967 coal plant. It is slated to be replaced with a NG plant. Only 3% of TVA's power comes from wind and solar. Most is nuclear and hydro. TVA's future clean energy plans rely on NG, small nuclear reactors, solar, and wind, in that order.
Posted on 1/16/24 at 4:52 pm to Darth Vol
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The average electric vehicle requires 30 kilowatt-hours to travel 100 miles
That is predictable, consistent demand which would result in investment of new power sources. A random spike in use does not result in new investment since it is not consistent and predictable.
Posted on 1/16/24 at 5:54 pm to Zappas Stache
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That is predictable, consistent demand which would result in investment of new power sources. A random spike in use does not result in new investment since it is not consistent and predictable.
Energy grids are built for peak demands.
Will these cars be charged consistently throughout the day?
Posted on 1/16/24 at 6:36 pm to Darth Vol
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The average electric vehicle requires 30 kilowatt-hours to travel 100 miles
Based on Entergy rate of about 12 cents a kWH that is about 3.60 in electrical power consumption per 100 miles, but if I use a supercharger for 36 cents a kWH, that comes out to over 10 dollars in electrical costs.
Fuel costs average about 3.00 dollars a gallon which will get you about 27 miles per gallon.
Based on this you are not saving much by going EV, and then you have worry about issues such as the battery not charging as much due to the cold or using extra power to keep the battery warm.
At least with a gas engine you get free heat as a byproduct of combustion, and most engines will turn over in a cold morning with just a switch. Now in an extreme cold setting like Alaska, you may want to plug in a block warmer.
This post was edited on 1/16/24 at 10:02 pm
Posted on 1/16/24 at 6:46 pm to Zappas Stache
There’s currently more coal than natural gas and nuclear combined generating on MISOs grid. There are over 38 gigawatts firing right now and it’s supposed to be coming off the grid at the same time we ramp up EVs. How are you wanting to replace 38 gigawatts and add additional load on the grid at the same time? This is supposed to happen by 2030. What source are you proposing and what are the general logistics?
Posted on 1/16/24 at 6:55 pm to Tarps99
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Based on Entergy rate of about 12 cents a kWH that is about 3.60 in electrical power consumption per 100 miles, but if I use a supercharger for 36 cents a gallon, that comes out to over 10 dollars in electrical costs.
Fuel costs average about 3.00 dollars a gallon which will get you about 27 miles per gallon
I don't understand why the mainstream population doesn't get this. EVs sounded pretty cool when charging stations were free, but that's not the case anymore. People need to catch on to that.
Posted on 1/16/24 at 7:02 pm to Darth Vol
Let’s not forget that Elon Musk is a racist!
Posted on 1/16/24 at 7:05 pm to Darth Vol
Natural gas furnace in my house. My whole house is pulling like 18 amps right now.
Posted on 1/16/24 at 7:10 pm to busbeepbeep
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Maybe if they kept those fossil plants online, they'd have enough generation capacity.
Posted on 1/16/24 at 7:11 pm to nugget
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over 38 gigawatts firing right now
That'll make at least 31 DeLoreans very happy.
Posted on 1/16/24 at 7:12 pm to nugget
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How are you wanting to replace 38 gigawatts and add additional load on the grid at the same time?
Posted on 1/16/24 at 7:13 pm to nugget
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There’s currently more coal than natural gas and nuclear combined generating on MISOs grid. There are over 38 gigawatts firing right now and it’s supposed to be coming off the grid at the same time we ramp up EVs. How are you wanting to replace 38 gigawatts and add additional load on the grid at the same time? This is supposed to happen by 2030. What source are you proposing and what are the general logistics?
I read an "article" this morning lauding a new 565 MWh Tesla battery installation "replacing" a 180 MW coal unit on Oahu. They're hanging on to that trash burner and combustion turbines for while longer though. Thankfully, those don't release carbon to the atmosphere. /sarcasm
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