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re: Trial lawyers are lobbying against self driving vehicles because they’re too safe

Posted on 7/19/26 at 5:20 pm to
Posted by JodyPlauche
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2009
10001 posts
Posted on 7/19/26 at 5:20 pm to
Get Gordon and get it done!!!!
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
480878 posts
Posted on 7/19/26 at 5:24 pm to
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They're safe and the technology will only get better.

That + saturation of the roads with more self-driving cars will have an exponential curve.

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Also, it will get to the point where it will be far more expensive to insure a manually driving car than a self driving one. That will have a huge impact on the car market and people's buying decisions.


If the pool becomes small enough, especially since the human-driving cars are more likely to be expensive
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
480878 posts
Posted on 7/19/26 at 5:25 pm to
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Computers are so awesome:


What do you trust more:

1. Amazon

2. Altima Energy
Posted by TigerBait1971
PTC GA
Member since Oct 2014
16439 posts
Posted on 7/19/26 at 5:27 pm to
How would all of this affect DWI arrests?

I would assume they would go way down as well as the erratic driving behavior would be eliminated. I guess checkpoints would still nab some.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
480878 posts
Posted on 7/19/26 at 5:30 pm to
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How would all of this affect DWI arrests?


LEO and DWI Defense attorneys are going to jump on the PI lawyer pain train

LEO is going to continue to expand the concepts of other crimes to try to make up the revenue loss (like we saw with "sex trafficking" when MJ started to become more legalized nationally)
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
17143 posts
Posted on 7/19/26 at 5:46 pm to
LEO have arrested people passed out in the backseat of their cars with keys in the trunk (I know it's a bit of an urban legend, but the point remains.) The existing laws in most states give plenty of leeway to prosecute, and dance moms love nothing more than increased DUI enforcement under any pretext, until they get popped in the elementary school pick up line for too many mimosas.

I think it will have zero impact on DUI, because the driver retains ultimate responsibility of the vehicle (like cloud security implementations where the consumer just assumes that because Azure is compliant with XYZ, their application is.)

For the previous question, I don't trust anyone. I remember "humans" sending out, I think water bills, in S LA, to shotgun houses for $30k, etc. in the early 2000s. But if AWS says it's so smart, as an example, why wasn't there a filter to flag bills that had increases of more than 200% month over month for manual review?

It's something to think about for all the companies that talk about "automated compliance" being fixed by AI at less cost. You can't outsource liability, but nearly every company thinks that's exactly what they're doing.
Posted by B747Tiger
Member since Jul 2026
361 posts
Posted on 7/19/26 at 5:48 pm to
I can only imagine what the insurance industry is gonna do once accidents go to near zero
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
55866 posts
Posted on 7/19/26 at 5:49 pm to
I don't think it's very nice to deprive all of those ambulance chasers of their ability to earn a living.
Posted by LSUtoBOOT
Member since Aug 2012
20868 posts
Posted on 7/19/26 at 5:58 pm to
Auto insurance industry and tort lawyers should be worried about driverless cars.
Posted by TigerBait1971
PTC GA
Member since Oct 2014
16439 posts
Posted on 7/19/26 at 6:45 pm to
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I think it will have zero impact on DUI


I don't see how this is possible when self driving cars pretty much eliminate the observable behavior that leads LEO to pull drunk drivers over.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
17143 posts
Posted on 7/19/26 at 7:02 pm to
I've been pulled over in A CAB, in NOVA and had our IDs checked, even though we were passengers. You underestimate how hard you need to be governed.
Posted by ELVIS U
Member since Feb 2007
11883 posts
Posted on 7/19/26 at 7:08 pm to
I finally agree with you on something, oh happy day.
Posted by TigerBait1971
PTC GA
Member since Oct 2014
16439 posts
Posted on 7/19/26 at 7:10 pm to
I assume that this "CAB" was driven by a person and this person's driving was the reason you were pulled over. This doesn't make the point you think you are making.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26997 posts
Posted on 7/19/26 at 7:20 pm to
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Auto insurance industry and tort lawyers should be worried about driverless cars.


Insurance revenues should go way down.

Insurance is just a pass through.
Costs plus margin.

My guess is that the insurance companies will try to go horizontal.
Car warranties. Roadside. Trip interruption. Service plans.
Coverage may also adjust more to pay by the mile services.
Posted by deuceiswild
South La
Member since Nov 2007
5202 posts
Posted on 7/19/26 at 7:35 pm to
Most shocking thing I saw in there is 82% less air bag deployment.
This tells me that fewer injuries isn’t a simple matter of having one less human being involved in every accident.
Posted by tadman
Member since Jun 2020
5535 posts
Posted on 7/19/26 at 7:38 pm to
I've been saying this for a while. If we have 100pct autonomous cars, most root causes of traffic deaths are gone. Speeding, texting/driving, drinking/driving...

What are the chances car insurance goes down?
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
28166 posts
Posted on 7/19/26 at 7:40 pm to
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Fewer wrecks = bad for PI lawyers

we should also see a decrease in auto insurance premiums as a result as well, no?
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26997 posts
Posted on 7/19/26 at 7:42 pm to
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What are the chances car insurance goes down?


100% chance of insurance going down.

With automated cars, charging liability will be a technicality.
There will be no negligence or intentional tort.
There will be virtually no nuclear verdicts.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
36680 posts
Posted on 7/19/26 at 7:43 pm to
Self driving cars will put plaintiff lawyers and organ donations out of business.

Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
103516 posts
Posted on 7/19/26 at 8:51 pm to
Police will join the attorneys soon too as it will reduce traffic violations and DUIs
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