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re: The "downfall of EV's" appears to be propaganda and overhyped
Posted on 10/2/26 at 2:01 pm to theliontamer
Posted on 10/2/26 at 2:01 pm to theliontamer
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How is it a no brainer?
less maintenence
powerbill goes up slightly, but save entirely on gas. prob about 33% the cost of fuel. ish.
Posted on 10/2/26 at 2:01 pm to Lonnie Utah
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FIFY.
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Plug in Hybrids or PHEVs are the better choice for probably 90%+ of the consumer population.
Disagree. Even ignoring the pros and cons of plug in hybrids versus purely regenerative hybrids, vastly more than 10% of the population doesn't have access to reliable at home charging. For anyone in that situation, there's no reason to carry around a significantly heavier battery for zero payoff.
Posted on 10/2/26 at 2:09 pm to Joshjrn
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vastly more than 10% of the population doesn't have access to reliable at home charging.
About a year ago, My wife bought herself a Mazda CX90 PHEV. It will recharge overnight on an 120v AC outlet. She gets about 30 miles of range which is more than enough for 90% of her daily driving. When she runs out of EV mode miles it switches to a regular Hybrid operation. She's bought 1/2 a tank of gas since April charging only at home using a standard wall outlet. Although we have only done it about 1 or 2 times, it can also recharge at a standard EV charging station (like ChargePoint)
Serious question, who doesn't have access to a standard AC outlet in their garage?
This post was edited on 10/2/26 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 10/2/26 at 2:11 pm to Lonnie Utah
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About a year ago, My wife bought herself a Mazda CX90 PHEV. It will recharge overnight on an 120v AC outlet. She gets about 30 miles of range which is more than enough for 90% of her daily driving. When she runs out of EV mode miles it switches to a regular Hybrid operation.
Serious question, who doesn't have access to a standard AC outlet in their garage?
People who don't have garages, mate
Posted on 10/2/26 at 2:11 pm to Joshjrn
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People who don't have garages, mate
Do they not have outside outlets either?
This post was edited on 10/2/26 at 2:13 pm
Posted on 10/2/26 at 2:12 pm to Joshjrn
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Serious question, who doesn't have access to a standard AC outlet in their garage?
People who don't have garages, mate
Posted on 10/2/26 at 2:14 pm to Lonnie Utah
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Do they not have outside outlets either?
Something like a quarter of the US population lives in apartments, to say nothing of all of the people who only have street parking
Posted on 10/2/26 at 2:15 pm to Tigersforthee
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GM and Ford just had lousy quarters because of their declines in EV sales. Maybe its because their EVs suck...
First off, they're garbage. Second, you can't make an EV and compete against Tesla when you're still stuck in the old dealership model. The dealerships are another mouth to feed and they control how much they sell your product for. Meanwhile I can literally buy a Tesla on a phone app.
Posted on 10/2/26 at 5:16 pm to Joshjrn
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Not much of a reason for them to "come back" when my comfortable people mover hybrid would likely beat your naturally aspirated V8 off the line, to say nothing of dogwhipping your natty V6
They saw you coming from
Miles away. Sold by the flashy lights.
More shite to break, costs more, reliability issues, etc.
Posted on 10/2/26 at 5:19 pm to sidewalkside
Bought one for the wife this summer after her last lease ended. Glad we leased the first one, because it depreciated heavily and was underwhelming for "German luxury."
Posted on 10/2/26 at 5:23 pm to sidewalkside
I'll probably buy an EV for my next vehicle purchase in about 18 months. Plan on keeping my truck for the utility and using the EV as a daily driver.
Posted on 10/2/26 at 5:30 pm to Joshjrn
I wonder how homeowners insurance is impacted by EV ownership, given the apparent enhanced risk of fire if in the garage...
Posted on 10/2/26 at 5:38 pm to Crawdaddy
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They saw you coming from Miles away. Sold by the flashy lights. More shite to break, costs more, reliability issues, etc.
What’s it like being completely full of shite and driving a sluggish vehicle?
Posted on 10/2/26 at 5:54 pm to East Coast Band
30-50% of EV owners buy ICE vehicles instead of another EV. ( per Ward's Auto) when replacing their primary auto.
EVs still suffer from poor infrastructure, lengthy charging times, and, up until very recently, terrible resale. Range anxiety is a real thing.
EVs are perfect for city-dwellers but guess what those residents don't typically have access to?
Home-based charging stations.
The future for EVs is excellent, with sodium ion batteries, and more importantly, small, gas-powered on-board generators.
EVs still suffer from poor infrastructure, lengthy charging times, and, up until very recently, terrible resale. Range anxiety is a real thing.
EVs are perfect for city-dwellers but guess what those residents don't typically have access to?
Home-based charging stations.
The future for EVs is excellent, with sodium ion batteries, and more importantly, small, gas-powered on-board generators.
Posted on 10/2/26 at 7:44 pm to Tigersforthee
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Tesla is doing well but GM and Ford just had lousy quarters because of their declines in EV sales. Maybe its because their EVs suck or maybe its because the govt isnt bribing people to buy them any more.
Ford's lineup is meh and GM shot themselves in the face by dumping Apple Carplay and Android Auto from their EVs for a native system.
Posted on 10/2/26 at 7:57 pm to sidewalkside
Hybrids are a far cry from EVs.
Great for mpg and they've come a long way
Great for mpg and they've come a long way
Posted on 10/2/26 at 8:28 pm to fightin tigers
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There is no path for Chinese EVs at this point.
Obviously not, for more than several reasons
Posted on 10/2/26 at 8:37 pm to OceanMan
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American consumers at least want the illusion of product support that this companies wouldn’t be able to provide.
Such a stereotype. Plenty of solid Chinese offerings that are well supported in many market segments. Plenty of crap, too, but to claim they are categorically incapable of supporting an engineered product is just ignorant.
Cirrus Aircraft are manufactured in my town. Really nice, innovative, planes, and the largest (or second largest) unit volume manufacturer in aviation.
Chinese-owned.
This post was edited on 10/2/26 at 8:40 pm
Posted on 10/2/26 at 8:55 pm to LSUminati
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takes a lot off mom’s plate mentally.
What does she have to do behind the wheel besides drive and make sandwiches?
Posted on 10/2/26 at 8:56 pm to sidewalkside
If you go test drive a Tesla with FSD you will want to buy it on the spot. Once you've used it, it's crazy to want to go back to driving yourself. Literally life changing tech that comes around a few times in your lifetime.
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