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Posted on 6/24/21 at 2:52 pm to noonan
quote:If it was my kid I would have a big problem 1st with my kid for being a disrespectful shithead and then with the officer for turning a misunderstanding into a potentially deadly/harmful situation unnecessarily. Once I learned the officer lied in his report, I would take legal action.
But as a parent, if this was my kid, he's getting grounded
Posted on 6/24/21 at 3:01 pm to WDE24
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If it was my kid I would have a big problem 1st with my kid for being a disrespectful shithead and then with the officer for turning a misunderstanding into a potentially deadly/harmful situation unnecessarily. Once I learned the officer lied in his report, I would take legal action.
FWIW, we agree on that. I'd be furious at my kid and teach him to do better next time he's in a similar situation. Secondly, after seeing the video, I'd be even more mad at the officer, especially considering the situation could've gone much, much worse with him falling onto the brick firepit. That kid could've split his head open or worse.
Posted on 6/24/21 at 3:19 pm to Joshjrn
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Standard operating procedure for law enforcement to tack on charges when they frick up. They then ride the ADA to get a conviction for "anything" to give them coverage for their behavior. I've never seen LEOs more angry in court than when an ADA dismisses a resisting case involving a situation in which they beat the shite out of someone.
How many bad movies have you watched? In 25 years I’ve had more cooperation from the PD’s office than I ever have from our State’s Attorney Office. I can always tell on the OT who on here don’t know a damn thing about how things really work in police/prosecution matters when they start blathering about collusion between cops and prosecutors. This only happens on TV and shitty movies. The relationship in my county borders on adversarial.
Posted on 6/24/21 at 3:22 pm to noonan
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And I think the law should be changed.
What problem do you have with the law?
We talk about "cultcha" here a lot and how it's so dangerous and terrible that any slight or mild disrespect is cause for inflicting serious bodily injury or death to someone.
Sounds like a lot of people in this thread are all for that type of behavior.
As long as the state is the one that is being disrespected and meting out the serious bodily injury.
Posted on 6/24/21 at 3:25 pm to noonan
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And I think the law should be changed.
What is your threshold for deploying a Taser?
Posted on 6/24/21 at 3:27 pm to noonan
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Well that's just dumb.
Why do you think that it is dumb that there is a threshold that needs to be met before a cop can use a tool that has significant potential to cause serious bodily harm and may even result in death?
Posted on 6/24/21 at 3:28 pm to SoFla Tideroller
quote:Pretty sure from his other posts that he's an attorney
How many bad movies have you watched? In 25 years I’ve had more cooperation from the PD’s office than I ever have from our State’s Attorney Office. I can always tell on the OT who on here don’t know a damn thing about how things really work in police/prosecution matters when they start blathering about collusion between cops and prosecutors.
Posted on 6/24/21 at 3:40 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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How many bad movies have you watched? In 25 years I’ve had more cooperation from the PD’s office than I ever have from our State’s Attorney Office. I can always tell on the OT who on here don’t know a damn thing about how things really work in police/prosecution matters when they start blathering about collusion between cops and prosecutors. This only happens on TV and shitty movies. The relationship in my county borders on adversarial.
As someone who was a prosecutor many moons ago I can say without a doubt that what he described has occurred. I also agree at times it devolved into an adversarial existence. I was on occasion ask by multiple individuals in a LEO's COC to get at least some charge to stick in order to avoid further scrutiny on the LEO who made the arrest. Usually followed with the "we are on the same side" bit. Maybe I was just in a series of bad movies.
Posted on 6/24/21 at 5:01 pm to Obtuse1
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Maybe I was just in a series of bad movies.
Damn it, Obtuse, Internal Affairs knew about this thing the whole time! And that hooker with a heart of gold? She's state's evidence, or I'll turn in my damned badge.
The next time some guinea with a bad haircut walks into your office and starts signing like a canary, ask yourself: was I born yesterday?
This job, man... it'll get to you. Don't let yourself end up like McMurtry.
Posted on 6/24/21 at 5:07 pm to OweO
I’ve never heard of a state trooper in a neighborhood. That’s a first.
Arguing with law enforcement never works. Dumbass.
Arguing with law enforcement never works. Dumbass.
Posted on 6/24/21 at 5:08 pm to AllDayEveryDay
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it's your right not to comply with a police officers request.
It's also the police officers right to arrest your arse by whatever method he deems necessary.
Neither of these statements are true you functional retard.
Posted on 6/24/21 at 10:43 pm to Obtuse1
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What is your threshold for deploying a Taser?
I think the police should be protected.
He didn't know what he was walking in to. That kid could have been leading him
Him into an ambush. He wasn't unreasonable with his requests. He doesn't know who the kid is texting. He might be texting his friends to come out and shoot the cop. It's not like it hasn't happened before.
He has to be able to protect himself. And these days it is even more important for him to be able to do so.
Posted on 6/25/21 at 12:00 am to JohnnyKilroy
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Why do you think that it is dumb that there is a threshold that needs to be met before a cop can use a tool that has significant potential to cause serious bodily harm and may even result in death?
Holy frick, how did you get that from my post.
Posted on 6/25/21 at 12:08 am to SouthernStyled
Prove it.
Posted on 6/25/21 at 3:07 am to Box Geauxrilla
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He was given a direct command and ignored it.
But why was the cop there to begin with, that's what I want to know.
Posted on 6/25/21 at 6:41 am to OweO
Jesus Christ this thread is sad.
For a board who routinely bit he's about the tyranny of the government there sure are a lot of people willing to let the government unlawfully violate your rights.
The cop had to have reasonable articulable suspicion that a crime had been, is being, or is about to be committed. Black kid "looking" suspicious is not a crime.
For a board who routinely bit he's about the tyranny of the government there sure are a lot of people willing to let the government unlawfully violate your rights.
The cop had to have reasonable articulable suspicion that a crime had been, is being, or is about to be committed. Black kid "looking" suspicious is not a crime.
Posted on 6/25/21 at 6:53 am to noonan
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I think the police should be protected.
He didn't know what he was walking in to. That kid could have been leading him
Him into an ambush. He wasn't unreasonable with his requests. He doesn't know who the kid is texting. He might be texting his friends to come out and shoot the cop. It's not like it hasn't happened before.
Except none of this fantasy was the reason given for the tasing.
The cop had to fabricate a lie in order to make it justifiable in his report.
Posted on 6/25/21 at 6:58 am to Displaced
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Black kid "looking" suspicious is not a crime.
Did you miss that he ran? It’s already been discussed. Unless new body cam video has been released you’re picking and choosing the facts to support your view
Posted on 6/25/21 at 6:59 am to JohnnyKilroy
I’m not reading this entire thread but what’s the lie in his report? The bad neighborhood bit? And do we have any other links, has national media picked it up?
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