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re: Teen Tased By Trooper On Girlfriend's Porch
Posted on 6/24/21 at 11:10 am to eatpie
Posted on 6/24/21 at 11:10 am to eatpie
got a bunch of bootlicking morons in this thread. this is why we can never have liberties: too many of you sheeple willing to bow down bc you don't know the govt is supposed to work for you, not you bowing down to them.
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Posted on 6/24/21 at 11:17 am to OweO
Posted on 6/24/21 at 11:21 am to CovingtonTigre
quote:
What more could the media do to help you make a decision in this case?
The media and twitter have done plenty.
Posted on 6/24/21 at 1:17 pm to arcalades
Anyone who uses the term "bootlicker" because they have no argument so they have to devolve into name calling learned to lick dude taints from their mother. 
Posted on 6/24/21 at 1:48 pm to eatpie
The posters here who think this guy should have complied to this ridiculous request are the same posters bitching and bragging about flaunting mask non-compliance. It’s really bizarre.
Posted on 6/24/21 at 1:50 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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Well that's dumb lol
Telling the cop to frick off and continue texting whomever it is they are texting when clearly told to stop is passive?
Posted on 6/24/21 at 2:00 pm to noonan
Yes.
Posted on 6/24/21 at 2:01 pm to WDE24
Well that's just dumb.
Posted on 6/24/21 at 2:02 pm to noonan
quote:Well, FHP is the one that defined active resistance. I don’t think words and texting equate to active resistance even in common parlance, but that is immaterial.
Well that's just dumb.
This post was edited on 6/24/21 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 6/24/21 at 2:11 pm to Prosecuted Collins
quote:
bitching and bragging about flaunting mask non-compliance
People bitching about other's refusal to wear unnecessary masks are the same sky-screamers exclaiming "My body, My choice!"
Posted on 6/24/21 at 2:16 pm to noonan
quote:
Telling the cop to frick off and continue texting whomever it is they are texting when clearly told to stop is passive?
Make your argument fit the law:
943.1717 Use of dart-firing stun guns.—
(1) A decision by a law enforcement officer, correctional officer, or correctional probation officer to use a dart-firing stun gun must involve an arrest or a custodial situation during which the person who is the subject of the arrest or custody escalates resistance to the officer from passive physical resistance to active physical resistance and the person:
(a) Has the apparent ability to physically threaten the officer or others; or
(b) Is preparing or attempting to flee or escape.
Specifically, explain what you think the teen did that equals "active physical resistance". I get paid to make these sorts of arguments and I am scratching my head about what I would suggest to a jury.
Posted on 6/24/21 at 2:22 pm to Obtuse1
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Specifically, explain what you think the teen did that equals "active physical resistance".
When did I say that
Posted on 6/24/21 at 2:26 pm to noonan
quote:That’s the standard/law he posted. It matters not when or if you said it.
When did I say that
Posted on 6/24/21 at 2:27 pm to WDE24
So I'm supposed to argue something I did not say?
Posted on 6/24/21 at 2:27 pm to Obtuse1
Posted on 6/24/21 at 2:29 pm to noonan
quote:The law contemplates two types of resistance passive physical and active physical. If you argue it isn’t passive, you are, by default, arguing it is active.
So I'm supposed to argue something I did not say?
This post was edited on 6/24/21 at 2:30 pm
Posted on 6/24/21 at 2:29 pm to WDE24
quote:
That’s the standard/law he posted. It matters not when or if you said it.
Noonan said the kid wasn't passive, and I agree. If a cop is acting on suspicious behavior (which is debated in the thread obviously) and trying to asses the situation, and the kid is noncompliant and moreso telling him to "frick off, I didn't do nothing," that is the kid escalating things.
Now, this was all mishandled by the cop as soon as the taser was pulled, and could've still been handled properly once that happened, but it wasn't. As I've stated several times in here, the cop should've verified from the home that the kid was supposed to be there, and that's that. Even if he kept the taser our for both of their safety, that should have happened. But it didn't, and the cop tased him anyway.
Posted on 6/24/21 at 2:30 pm to CocomoLSU
quote:In this context, it is a legally defined standard, not just a turn of phrase.
Noonan said the kid wasn't passive
This post was edited on 6/24/21 at 2:33 pm
Posted on 6/24/21 at 2:32 pm to noonan
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When did I say that
Look carefully, I never said you did.
We can discuss whether the Florida law is right or wrong but that is a distinct discussion from the actual situation here. I think it is very difficult for the officer to argue he met the requirements of his state's law to employ a Taser.
Posted on 6/24/21 at 2:44 pm to WDE24
If the law states that the kid has to actively be physically resisting in order to get tasered then I guess the cop was wrong.
But as a parent, if this was my kid, he's getting grounded. And I think the law should be changed.
But as a parent, if this was my kid, he's getting grounded. And I think the law should be changed.
This post was edited on 6/24/21 at 2:45 pm
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