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re: Storm Watch- Gulf- Tropical Depression- Northward Miss. Valley

Posted on 6/4/20 at 9:40 am to
Posted by mightynine
Member since May 2006
1278 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 9:40 am to
Hoping there won't be anything left to move back over the water.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
177370 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 10:07 am to
NHC track got Baton Rouge in the gun.

Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 10:17 am to
I think that area right there is actually the warmest waters in that part of the Gulf is why. They have a really small pocket of really warm water if it hits the right path.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
177370 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 10:20 am to
It’s not really warm water. It’s just warm water relative to early June.
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 10:21 am to
true

don't worry new orleans destroya will make y'all stay lockdown until hurricane season is over once this one passes
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
16414 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 10:25 am to
Never seen a spaghetti model like the one you posted for this storm.

I think it’s got some big outliers
Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
26059 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 10:35 am to
Im pulling for that one that loops around to Fla or that thick yellow one stair stepping to Tx
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 10:41 am to
quote:

NHC track got Baton Rouge in the gun.


A relatively good sign for LA since the worst of the rain/wind is likely to be far removed to the E of the center.

GFS 24 hour rainfall through 6am Monday.

Posted by The Cool No 9
70816
Member since Jan 2014
11147 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 10:42 am to
Yeah I told my dad earlier I don’t think the water is as hot as it would be in August so hopefully that is more of an advantage
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
147160 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 10:43 am to
Cristobal downgraded to a Tropical Depression

quote:

000
WTNT33 KNHC 041444
TCPAT3

BULLETIN
Tropical Depression Cristobal Advisory Number 12
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL032020
1000 AM CDT Thu Jun 04 2020

...CRISTOBAL WEAKENS TO A DEPRESSION BUT CONTINUES TO PRODUCE HEAVY
RAINS AND LIFE-THREATENING FLOODING...


SUMMARY OF 1000 AM CDT...1500 UTC...INFORMATION
-----------------------------------------------
LOCATION...17.6N 91.0W
ABOUT 160 MI...260 KM SSW OF CAMPECHE MEXICO
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...35 MPH...55 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...ESE OR 120 DEGREES AT 3 MPH...6 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...998 MB...29.47 INCHES


WATCHES AND WARNINGS
--------------------
CHANGES WITH THIS ADVISORY:

The government of Mexico has discontinued the Tropical Storm
Warning from Campeche to Coatzacoalcos.

SUMMARY OF WATCHES AND WARNINGS IN EFFECT:

There are no coastal watches or warnings in effect.

Tropical storm watches or warnings may be required for portions of
the Yucatan Peninsula of Mexico later today. Interests there and
along the northern coast of the Gulf of Mexico should monitor the
progress of Cristobal.


DISCUSSION AND OUTLOOK
----------------------
At 1000 AM CDT (1500 UTC), the center of Tropical Depression
Cristobal was located near latitude 17.6 North, longitude 91.0 West.
The depression is moving toward the east-southeast near 3 mph (6
km/h), and this motion should continue through midday. A turn
toward the east and northeast is expected later today, and a
subsequent northward motion should occur through Sunday. On the
forecast track, the center will move over the land mass of extreme
northwestern Guatemala and eastern Mexico today and tonight. The
center is forecast to move back over the southern Gulf of Mexico
Friday or Friday night, over the central Gulf of Mexico on
Saturday, and approach the northern Gulf of Mexico coast Sunday and
Sunday night.

Maximum sustained winds have decreased to near 35 mph (55 km/h)
with higher gusts. Little change in strength is expected through
tonight. Re-intensification is expected to begin on Friday.

The estimated minimum central pressure is 998 mb (29.47 inches).


HAZARDS AFFECTING LAND
----------------------
Key messages for Cristobal can be found in the Tropical Cyclone
Discussion under AWIPS header MIATCDAT3, WMO header WTNT43 KNHC, and
on the web at www.hurricanes.gov/text/MIATCDAT3.shtml

RAINFALL: Cristobal is expected to produce the following rain
accumulations through Saturday:

Mexican states of Campeche, Quintana Roo, Tabasco, and Yucatan...
Additional 6 to 12 inches, isolated storm totals of 25 inches.

Mexican states of Veracruz and Oaxaca...Additional 5 to 10 inches.

Southern Guatemala and parts of Chiapas...Additional 15 to 20
inches, isolated storm total amounts of 35 inches dating back to
Saturday, May 30th.

El Salvador...Additional 10 to 15 inches, isolated storm total
amounts of 35 inches dating back to Saturday, May 30th.

Belize and Honduras...Additional 3 to 6 inches, isolated 10 inches.

Rainfall in all of these areas may produce life-threatening flash
floods and mudslides.


NEXT ADVISORY
-------------
Next complete advisory at 400 PM CDT.

$$
Forecaster Pasch
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
21544 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 10:43 am to
quote:

Really not much change in thinking since yesterday morning. Spend the next couple of days watching the system spin over the Yucatan.


Same. We should see the system start to slowly lift north by tomorrow sometime but it is currently under heavy shear with the deepest convection offset to the NE of the system.



This is the result of an upper level trough over the Gulf with the heaviest convection displaced from the surface low towards the area of best upper divergence.



Placement of features that will guide the future track haven't changed much over the last couple of days.

Below image is from 2 days ago for Saturday night:



vs.

06z Euro for Saturday night



We have seen the modeled track bounce around a bit but mostly just the result of noise in the model as the position and timing of the two troughs fluctuates from one run to the next.

Given the upper level setup over the Gulf and the current disorganization of the system, it is likely that the most significant weather will be well east of the track, pretty much in line with climo for June CAG systems.

The main threat will be rain and even that doesn't look too bad with the 06z Euro EPS showing widespread 3 - 4" totals with some areas picking up 5"+



Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
49695 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 11:00 am to
That track there will swamp us on the Northshore.
Posted by Anaximander
3524 Third St New Orleans, LA
Member since Jun 2018
3412 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 11:05 am to
THat loop it is taking is throwing a monkey wrench into the models. A bit of chaos theory is involved in forecasting how it spins out of that loop.
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
29831 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 11:24 am to
Please remove the picture of my house
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41081 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 11:53 am to
quote:

A relatively good sign for LA since the worst of the rain/wind is likely to be far removed to the E of the center.


This may be one of those weird situations where the further towards Texas the center goes, the WORSE it is for SELA.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
66106 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 12:08 pm to
Yep. A direct hit may be better
Posted by BallsEleven
Member since Mar 2019
6163 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 12:17 pm to
GFS and ICON with one hell of a turn west as it approaches the coast. GFS actually brings it on a tour through the south before spitting back out into the northern gulf and across over into texas as a mess.

Didn't the 6z EURO hint at this hard west jog as well?
Posted by lsugolfredman
Member since Jun 2005
1941 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 12:19 pm to
Yes, the 6z Euro has this movement as well. Ridge really puts a halt on northern movement and forces it clockwise
Posted by Riolobo
On the lake
Member since Mar 2017
5225 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 12:24 pm to
2-4 inches of rain predicted for most parts of south Louisiana. We are getting lucky on this one.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
50795 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 12:30 pm to
quote:

2-4 inches of rain predicted for most parts of south Louisiana. We are getting lucky on this one.

Not if it goes further west of here like today's models are hinting at. Those amounts could easily become closer to 5-9 inches (insert joke here).
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