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re: Reports of over 20 young camp girls missing In TX floods

Posted on 7/10/25 at 12:08 pm to
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
11937 posts
Posted on 7/10/25 at 12:08 pm to
When Camille flooded Virginia mountains, strips of white fabric were put where the smells were noted so that crews could 'search' more there.

One of the bodies from Hurricane Helene (NC and TN mountains) was just found last week.

With the huge volume of soil and rocks that was moved and redeposited, bodies were buried and this won't be over for a long time.

It hurts just to think of the lives lost on what should have been a wonderfully memorable weekend.
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
49636 posts
Posted on 7/10/25 at 12:17 pm to
quote:

this kills me...to never have closure for someone who got swept away.


I don't believe in "closure" because the loss never goes away. I believe that having the body to bury helps with acceptance of the reality and assists in moving forward through the stages of grief in whatever ways the individuals will do so. The thought that some of these families will never have a body is gut wrenching.

I'm not sure what I would do or how I would handle it. Different people need different things to work through grief. I might have to have a grave site and bury some personal belongings in it or something like that so I'd have a place to go and mourn.
Posted by vl100butch
Ridgeland, MS
Member since Sep 2005
37100 posts
Posted on 7/10/25 at 12:23 pm to
I had to bury an infant daughter, that was rough but I think having to bury a young child would be worse.
Posted by Mr Sausage
Cat Spring, Texas
Member since Oct 2011
15763 posts
Posted on 7/10/25 at 12:28 pm to
In an absolute gut punch fashion, the girls write letters home while they are at camp. Those letters are starting to arrive at their parents' homes now.
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
49636 posts
Posted on 7/10/25 at 12:32 pm to
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In an absolute gut punch fashion, the girls write letters home while they are at camp. Those letters are starting to arrive at their parents' homes now.


That would be awfully hard, but maybe in some way, it will provide comfort knowing their children were having a good time. In time, I hope the letters become a gift in some way.
Posted by vl100butch
Ridgeland, MS
Member since Sep 2005
37100 posts
Posted on 7/10/25 at 12:37 pm to
I've seen stories of wives of men killed in WW2 got mail that was enroute from their casualty husbands after they were notified of their deaths.

shifting subject, have any cadaver dogs been deployed, I haven't seen any on the news?
Posted by Mr Sausage
Cat Spring, Texas
Member since Oct 2011
15763 posts
Posted on 7/10/25 at 12:39 pm to
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have any cadaver dogs been deployed,


yes.

and for some perspective on what they are dealing with:



thats a F-250 buried in rocks.

Posted by AllDayEveryDay
The Sticks
Member since Jun 2015
9725 posts
Posted on 7/10/25 at 12:59 pm to
Was just talking to a coworker whom also runs a mortuary. People are buried 12-15 feet in the earth, and will likely never be found. People that are underwater are in such a state that it would be hard to differentiate a body from the mud with a probe unless you caught some of the smell.
Posted by TT9
Seychelles
Member since Sep 2008
91793 posts
Posted on 7/10/25 at 1:01 pm to
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this kills me...to never have closure for someone who got swept away.
couldn't get any worse imo. Life would be hell to live.
Posted by Mr Sausage
Cat Spring, Texas
Member since Oct 2011
15763 posts
Posted on 7/10/25 at 1:02 pm to
yep, and countless deer and cows are in there too.
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
49636 posts
Posted on 7/10/25 at 1:04 pm to
That's a stunning photograph. My goodness, I don't know how they will find more bodies looking at that.
Posted by Lexis Dad
Member since Apr 2025
6399 posts
Posted on 7/10/25 at 1:47 pm to


quote:

F-250 buried in rocks.

Posted by LaLadyinTx
Cypress, TX
Member since Nov 2018
7312 posts
Posted on 7/10/25 at 1:57 pm to
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quote:
Actually, regulations require a drainage analysis that shows no change to runoff from existing conditions. That’s why you see so many lakes in new developments.
those rules were StateReg,, afterHarvey Emmett got new stricter regulations for Harris,, But Montgomery County still operates under much looser restrictions and the water comes into Harris County on its way to the gulf


And my point isn't that I am worried I'm going to flood or anything they are doing to improve Cypress Creek flooding.

My point is that even in the Hill Country rivers, there are different random places that suddenly receive 15-20 inches of rain unexpectedly. It happens in the rainy parts of Texas. But we never know where it will be. 20 inches isn't predicted. 6-8 inches is predicted and sometimes it's more. That 15-20 will cause some place that no one remembers every flooding, to all of a sudden have a major, possibly life threatening flood.

We need some different way to filter through alerts because this will happen again on a different river, in a different town or city. I don't think with our current systems that this was very avoidable. But just more alerts or better cell service won't fix it.
Posted by TxWadingFool
Middle Coast
Member since Sep 2014
5644 posts
Posted on 7/10/25 at 2:33 pm to
I was sent that pic yesterday, as the water recedes more discoveries like that are being found in areas that were already searched. I am headed up tomorrow with my backhoe to help out a crew a buddy of mine is heading up with other volunteers. There are still miles and miles of river bank that have yet to be thoroughly searched beyond aerial observation, and yes unfortunately the odor is what is leading to a lot of the recoveries now.
This post was edited on 7/10/25 at 2:36 pm
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75184 posts
Posted on 7/10/25 at 2:57 pm to


That is a fire engine of some kind buried, along with what may be a jeep. The engine was driven by a volunteer fire department chief. His body has been recovered.
This post was edited on 7/10/25 at 2:58 pm
Posted by Tortious
ATX
Member since Nov 2010
5732 posts
Posted on 7/10/25 at 3:49 pm to
Damn. That is unbelievable.
Posted by CrappyPants
Member since Apr 2021
1117 posts
Posted on 7/10/25 at 4:11 pm to
I apologize if this was posted before but did anyone see what was in Chloe Childress' room (a counselor in Bubble Inn) that lost her life and body was found?

The headmaster at her former high school where she just graduated went to her home to be with her parents yesterday in Houston. The mom directed him to her room.

On her mirror, she had a post it that she had written during finals that year. It was Isaiah 43:2.
"When you pass through the waters, I will be with you; and when you pass through the rivers, they will not sweep over you.When you walk through the fire, you will not be burned; the flames will not set you ablaze"

That verse. Of all the bible, she had THAT verse on her mirror. Its chilling and absolutely incredible.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
49830 posts
Posted on 7/10/25 at 6:26 pm to
Prayers sent again. They still haven’t found the body of my daughter’s friends sister. I can’t imagine anything worse to a parent.
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
5242 posts
Posted on 7/10/25 at 6:50 pm to
That gave me chills.
Posted by Longhorn Actual
Member since Dec 2023
3192 posts
Posted on 7/10/25 at 7:17 pm to
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A video popped on my FB feed of a volunteer being interviewed about his day and he said that one way they are finding victims now is from the smell. It was hard to sleep last night thinking about that.


I guess it's possible, but that sounds more like he heard a conversation about cadaver dogs and paraphrased poorly. Who knows though...

I've heard that the dogs are being thrown off by the sheer amount of dead wildlife, but I don't know that to be true either.

A lot of the recoveries are very technical extractions/extrications. Many of the debris fields are akin to collapsed buildings. Just piles of shite on top of piles of shite. Trees, cars, houses, RVs...all mixed into a giant unstable pile.

The largest one I marked and sent up for technical extraction/extrication was about a hundred yards long, probably 50y wide, and probably 10ft high. I couldn't even estimate how many houses were mixed in. And it was in the middle of nowhere. Getting equipment into it will be tough...probably have to drop it in.

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