re: Reports of over 20 young camp girls missing In TX floods

Did the CNN article get it right about the maps?

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36 children

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This is just so messed up. Babies that will never grow up.

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Are the flood plain maps correct, in your opinion?

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Not my area of expertise but I used to live next to a wet weather creek outside Austin. Saw some scary swelling of that creek at times. Checked into the subject as a result.

Flood maps are built on historical data along with some assumptions. If there’s an unprecedented rain event in the wrong spot or bad assumptions included the maps can definitely be wrong.

They get revisited and updated periodically. That alone says one set of maps may not accurately capture the risk for a given area. Maps for this flood will surely be updated.

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Weather is unpredictable and the alerts are always coming when there is potential for catastrophe. Not sure what else can be done by the government when it comes to alerts.

Government sends too many alerts to err on side of caution and people will complain about there being too many and not pay attention to them.

Government sends not enough alerts because it doesn't look like the worst will happen but then the one in a million worst thing happens and people will complain about not being alerted enough.

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Eventually some person is going to make a break through in analyzing the data that will change these alerts for the better.

It seems that right now, the general public is being sent data like a water hose wide open from 50 feet away. Just being sprayed with everything (whether useful or not) in a large swath of area that may or may not end up being affected. Hopefully, we will make significant strides in being able to minimize the communication and provide more accurate information. to a smaller amount of people.

IMO, it's a data problem, not a money or person problem. There's so much more data than ever before. But, it isn't understood at a precise enough level to provide meaningful alerts to the average person. So instead, we are just showering everyone with all kinds of things that don't mean a whole lot to those people.

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It was released yesterday that Camp Mystic's emergency and evacuation plan was approved by onsite state inspectors on July 2. Less than 48 hrs before the flood.

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The Austin (TX) firefighters union voiced outrage over Fire Chief Joel G. Baker’s decision to deny their request to assist in flood-stricken Kerrville—despite being hailed as the region’s top swiftwater rescue unit.

On July 2, 2025, the State of Texas issued deployment orders ahead of rising floodwaters. According to a social media post from the Austin Firefighters Association, the elite Special Operations teams—trained in swiftwater techniques and boat missions—were ready to mobilize before floodwaters surged. Two Austin Fire Department (AFD) boats and six swiftwater technicians were ready to deploy, but were denied permission to respond. A second request was received on July 4, and it was also denied. However, three AFD rescue swimmers were eventually sent to help airlift victims, and that too wasn’t until late in the day on July 4. The department remained grounded until then, the union claims.

“It brings the Austin Firefighters no pleasure … the Austin Fire Chief DENIED the deployment of Austin firefighters to Kerrville until very late into the event (so today-July 7th!) … It is absolutely outrageous … LIVES WERE VERY LIKELY LOST BECAUSE OF CHIEF BAKER’S DECISION!” — Bob Nicks, Austin Firefighters Association Facebook statement

Further criticism centered on the motive behind the delay. The union charges Chief Baker prioritized saving money, despite state reimbursement covering full deployment costs. “I explained the reimbursement process … and he failed to understand this very simple concept,” the statement reads.

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Why weren't these girls moved sooner if they were worried on July 2nd?

Today is the first day I've seen Austin FD on scene in Burnet County. Austin PD has been sending out teams for a few days already.

A summer camp and a major port city are very different things. But reasonable to ask both questions. New Orleans population has dropped post Katrina.

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Not sure why this hasnt surfaced til now. Someone made an account on Texags just to post it this afternoon. Mystic did a LOMR to remove structures from the mapped floodplain in 2013.

Not sure why that isnt getting more run in the media.

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Not sure why that isnt getting more run in the media.

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they still want to find a way to blame white Christians from Texas for this

Maybe that request was due to higher insurance rates if buildings were considered in the flood plain.