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re: Reports of over 20 young camp girls missing In TX floods
Posted on 7/7/25 at 4:53 pm to Gris Gris
Posted on 7/7/25 at 4:53 pm to Gris Gris
I don't know anyone personally involved in this incident but I have felt depressed about it for the past few days. Considering the fact that so many of the victims were children I just can't get over this. It's seriously one of the most fricked up news stories I've ever heard all the way around.
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Posted on 7/7/25 at 4:59 pm to lsudave1
As a parent its horrific. As a parent that has seen the joy and magic of the camp, seen the little girls there having the absolute time of their young lives, its really, really tough.
Posted on 7/7/25 at 5:00 pm to Fletch1985
quote:Again people need to stop speculating when they know nothing about the area you're talking about
If victims have not been found by now, it’s likely they will never be found. As described in some recent posts, this part of the Guadalupe is extremely rugged and rocky with many low water crossings built over culverts and small dams that create pools. The area is also teeming with wildlife.
Most of the victims of the 2015 Wimberly/Blanco River flood were never found.
different river.. different downstream infrastructure ,,Different efforts,, technology,, lessons learned
Posted on 7/7/25 at 5:07 pm to OWLFAN86
I’m not speculating. I live in the area and have been on all these rivers, extensively.
And will be at funeral later this week. Of a child. I’ll leave it at that.
And will be at funeral later this week. Of a child. I’ll leave it at that.
Posted on 7/7/25 at 5:10 pm to UnitedFruitCompany
Do you or anyone else know why cypress lake was set up independently? I was thinking it was just a different group of cabins for same camp until I read the below. Also not sure that when the number of campers is mentioned like 750+ is it including campers from both camps or just the ones from original camp by the Guadalupe?
According to the shaded areas in picture below they don’t connect, but I don’t know if the land in between is personal property of the family or owned by someone completely separate from family and the 2 camps.
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…we had our first year of Camp Mystic Cypress Lake in 2020. Camp Mystic Cypress Lake is located on the hill that overlooks the lake, past Natural Fountains. It is completely independent from the older Guadalupe River camp, with a separate entrance, waterfront, dining hall, office, pavilion, infirmary, playing fields, archery range, stables, chapel, and cabins.
According to the shaded areas in picture below they don’t connect, but I don’t know if the land in between is personal property of the family or owned by someone completely separate from family and the 2 camps.
Posted on 7/7/25 at 5:12 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
quote:
1. There were absolutely warnings issued by NWS
2. This area is a known flood hazard area.
3. This camp has experience dangerous flash floods before.
This was a disaster 40 years in the making.
Have to agree. Especially when we're talking about young kids, I'm not sure why you'd ever put a camp that close to the water when it has historically flooded so much.
Adults who might be able to protect/take care of themselves? Ok, but still risky. Young kids? Too much of a risk.
Posted on 7/7/25 at 5:15 pm to lsudave1
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I don't know anyone personally involved in this incident but I have felt depressed about it for the past few days. Considering the fact that so many of the victims were children I just can't get over this. It's seriously one of the most fricked up news stories I've ever heard all the way around.
Same here. I was golfing yesterday afternoon when a group text I have with some college buddies fired up and I read through all the texts I missed. One of them regularly golfs with a guy who yesterday they found the body of his 8-year-old daughter. My eyes got a little watery for a second there when I read that and I don't even know that family.
This post was edited on 7/7/25 at 5:25 pm
Posted on 7/7/25 at 5:32 pm to TheOcean
quote:trying to find someone to blame for something like this is such a foolish task. This isn't some common occurrence. Should we ban kids from flying in airplanes, riding in boats, or being in areas that could have a tornado, hurricane, earthquake, tsunami? Should we prohibit kids from riding bikes on neighborhood roads? Maybe not let anyone go skiing? Maybe we shouldn't let any kids go to any schools since there's been some school shootings?
Have to agree. Especially when we're talking about young kids, I'm not sure why you'd ever put a camp that close to the water when it has historically flooded so much.
Adults who might be able to protect/take care of themselves? Ok, but still risky. Young kids? Too much of a risk.
Some of you are searching for a solution that isn't possible. And frankly, you sound like emotional women when you post those things.
Posted on 7/7/25 at 5:42 pm to dallastigers
This is a helpful tool that I have used for river flooding in the past. It helps to visualize runoff. You basically choose a location on the map and it shows you the path "a single drop of rain" would take. Of course it isn't that simple, and the developers know that, but it gives you a visualisation of the runoff and streams, creeks, rivers at play.
I have this link cued up to start the path from Cypress Lake. You can adjust it to the NW from there if you want, which would begin in the general area where the heaviest rains fell.
River Runner
I have this link cued up to start the path from Cypress Lake. You can adjust it to the NW from there if you want, which would begin in the general area where the heaviest rains fell.
River Runner
Posted on 7/7/25 at 5:47 pm to hashtag
I'm not blaming anyone. Just stating that placing young kids in a flood prone area where the flooding is rapid and tough to predict isn't the smartest thing in the world. I think these types of discussions are important. Especially if these camps are going to rebuild and continue
Posted on 7/7/25 at 5:54 pm to hashtag
quote:
trying to find someone to blame
Having a lessons learned is not blaming, it isn't the same thing. It's hard discussions that need to happen to prevent this from ever happening again.
Posted on 7/7/25 at 5:54 pm to TheOcean
quote:the camp is 99 years old. They've had minor flooding before and a few major events, though not as bad as this one. I'm sure they've had these types of discussions many times. It's the reason that so many people were saved despite this being a 1/100 year event.
I'm not blaming anyone. Just stating that placing young kids in a flood prone area where the flooding is rapid and tough to predict isn't the smartest thing in the world. I think these types of discussions are important. Especially if these camps are going to rebuild and continue
Posted on 7/7/25 at 6:03 pm to TheOcean
quote:
Just stating that placing young kids in a flood prone area where the flooding is rapid and tough to predict isn't the smartest thing in the world.
Well, why didn’t you let them before this happened?
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I think these types of discussions are important. Especially if these camps are going to rebuild and continue
They’re extremely important. There’s a way to go about them without being Monday Morning QB. Unfortunately, I’ve stooped low and have argued with some lemmings on other forms of social media. It’s always a waste, but I haven’t learned. You’ll never change the mind of a lib in Oregon who suddenly knows everything about the geography of the Texas Hill Country, or the schmuck in Kentucky who says this is justified because something something illegal immigration.
There’s a way to have the conversations without saying the camps shouldn’t have been there in the first place. That offers up nothing.
Posted on 7/7/25 at 6:07 pm to dallastigers
quote:
Do you or anyone else know why cypress lake was set up independently?
Cypress is relatively new. I would guess logistics. Why try to retrofit existing facilities to double in size when you could build new?
And I think questioning why cabins that close today is a shite ton different than asking last week. A storm of record does that. Every one of those kids had a better chance of being in a car accident on the way to camp than having a flood wash them away.
Posted on 7/7/25 at 6:23 pm to OWLFAN86
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Maybe NOLA should move away from the gulf
Garbage comment from a piece of shite Texan
Posted on 7/7/25 at 6:28 pm to LafourcheTiger
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Garbage comment from a piece of shite Texan
I suspect you know the way you're taking it is not the way I was saying it These people who are criticizing the inaction of the campers it's the same thing
bad shite happens Stop trying to blame everybody and just recognize that this is a tragedy
But if Internet outrage points are what you're looking for congratulations
Posted on 7/7/25 at 6:31 pm to LafourcheTiger
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LafourcheTiger
Why is it a POS comment?
Posted on 7/7/25 at 6:33 pm to LafourcheTiger
quote:you spelled Mexican rong
Texan
Posted on 7/7/25 at 6:35 pm to TexasTiger08
So someone has to live close by to Texas or know about the flooding there to have an opinion? 
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