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re: Reports of over 20 young camp girls missing In TX floods

Posted on 7/7/25 at 6:37 pm to
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 7/7/25 at 6:37 pm to
Because he wants to score points by ignoring the context


It was clearly a response to someone saying the camp should just be moved 50 feet higher
there's not 50 feet higher to move the camp

but people keep trying to blame Camp Mystic or White people Or the fact that it was a Christian camp Or the Weather Service
It's the same kind of trash as people who legitimately say New Orleans ought to be shut down, only this person chose to ignore the context



Posted by Mr Sausage
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Posted on 7/7/25 at 6:41 pm to
This thread has gone a long ways without getting hostile, guys. No need for insults today.
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 7/7/25 at 6:44 pm to
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This thread has gone a long ways without getting hostile, guys. No need for insults today.
hey tell him that I wasn't the one insulting people

my post was a reply in which I quoted the text I was responding to on page 7, then this is page 38 obviously everybody else who read that comment read it in context

This is just more hate from unhinged people
This post was edited on 7/7/25 at 7:06 pm
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 7/7/25 at 6:47 pm to
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So someone has to live close by to Texas or know about the flooding there to have an opinion?


I don’t know how the New Orleans canal and levee system precisely works, so if a disaster hits there, I’ll refrain from saying some dumb comment like “wHy DiD tHeY bUiLd ThErE??!”

If you wanna have a productive conversation, fine. It’s low hanging fruit to wait until after the fact to say something lame like that. You’re not disaster proof anywhere in this country.
Posted by c on z
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Posted on 7/7/25 at 6:48 pm to
Has it already been discussed that apparently cell phones weren’t allowed at the camp?
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 7/7/25 at 6:50 pm to
The 5-10 year old girls couldn't, or does that include the adults and counselors? The former would seem pretty common in a camp setting.
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 7/7/25 at 6:51 pm to
The campers aren't allowed to bring cellphones with them because It would distract from the experience of the camp, besides, these cabins were for seven and 8 year olds

The counselors probably had cell phones they had two-way radios and there were cell phones at the camp with staff and personnel


Again this camp was in the act of removing the campers to higher ground and the floods caught them It's a tragedy

Tragedies never make any sense stop trying to make sense of this it's a futile effort
Posted by Mr Sausage
Cat Spring, Texas
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Posted on 7/7/25 at 6:52 pm to
Not allowed for campers, but you lose cell service at the gate anyway. If you are on top of that hill between the two Mystic sites, you may get one bar of service.
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 7/7/25 at 7:10 pm to
Is there a little country restaurant cafe still open there in Cat Spring ?

just in the middle of farmland?

serial DVers such a bad arse
This post was edited on 7/7/25 at 7:38 pm
Posted by Dawgsontop34
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Posted on 7/7/25 at 7:15 pm to
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So someone has to live close by to Texas or know about the flooding there to have an opinion?


Of course not, but there’s a difference between having an opinion and presenting your opinion as fact in a situation you don’t know a ton about.

If someone was gonna say, “hey, there’s going to be this storm that comes thru that is going to surge 10 feet higher than any storm in 90+ years in the middle of the night with a 20+ foot surge in <90 minutes” then of course you’d change how the camp was set up.

At no point if you walked thru the camp grounds would you think those cabins were at risk of a flood. Maybe they should have had experts come in and confirm that for them, maybe they did. I don’t know. I just think some people are being overly critical of the absolute worst case scenario happening.
Posted by TexasTiger08
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Posted on 7/7/25 at 7:18 pm to
He didn’t even post an opinion. Just typed out some bullshite.
Posted by MC5601
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Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 7/7/25 at 7:20 pm to
quote:

If someone was gonna say, “hey, there’s going to be this storm that comes thru that is going to surge 10 feet higher than any storm in 90+ years in the middle of the night with a 20+ foot surge in <90 minutes” then of course you’d change how the camp was set up.

At no point if you walked thru the camp grounds would you think those cabins were at risk of a flood. Maybe they should have had experts come in and confirm that for them, maybe they did. I don’t know. I just think some people are being overly critical of the absolute worst case scenario happening.


Absolutely. Some people are being totally unrealistic when it comes to putting blame on the placement of the camp. With this kind of logic, I guess we should abandon having cities or housing anywhere on the coastal US because every 100-500 years they may be annihilated by a hurricane
Posted by LegendInMyMind
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Posted on 7/7/25 at 7:25 pm to
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Absolutely. Some people are being totally unrealistic when it comes to putting blame on the placement of the camp. With this kind of logic, I guess we should abandon having cities or housing anywhere on the coastal US because every 100-500 years they may be annihilated by a hurricane

Whether you believe it to be unrealistic or not those questions will be asked in the coming weeks and months, and they will have to be answered.
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 7/7/25 at 7:30 pm to
Gotta find somebody to blame…

They don’t dare blame reality, which is Mother Nature at her worst… the camps have been there for decades.
Posted by MC5601
Tyler, Texas
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 7/7/25 at 7:43 pm to
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Whether you believe it to be unrealistic or not those questions will be asked in the coming weeks and months, and they will have to be answered.


I think we all have to accept a certain amount of risk when it comes to the ourdoors. I can see them implementing a better/more accurate flood warning system but I really hope they don't take away the ability to build near the river because it will shutter those camps for good. In most places there is nowhere else to build as the hills and mountains are so steep that it would make it nearly impossible. It's a terrible tragedy and a freak occurrence wrapped into one
Posted by vl100butch
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Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 7/7/25 at 7:46 pm to
It's telling though that another camp in the area kept an eye on the weather forecasts and evacuated 70 people from a low lying area.

Mo-Ranch evacuated 70 people before flood hit
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 7/7/25 at 7:49 pm to
Thank god for that.. but that amount of water level that quick is astonishing. I doubt some of them thought no way it would get that bad that quick. A tragedy all around….
Posted by LegendInMyMind
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Posted on 7/7/25 at 7:57 pm to
quote:

It's telling though that another camp in the area kept an eye on the weather forecasts and evacuated 70 people from a low lying area.

I don't like Fox framing it this way:
quote:

Mo-Ranch evacuated 70 children and adults to higher ground without warning from local authorities as flash floods devastated nearby camps

They all had warning. Just because someone didn't show up to hold your hand doesn't mean they didn't have warning.
Posted by CapitalTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Sep 2019
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Posted on 7/7/25 at 7:57 pm to
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It's telling though that another camp in the area kept an eye on the weather forecasts and evacuated 70 people from a low lying area.


Based on the reports from Mystic, the same thing occurred there. They relocated the lowest cabins in that same time period. Would have been about the same number of campers, if not more.
Posted by Mr Sausage
Cat Spring, Texas
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 7/7/25 at 7:58 pm to
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Is there a little country restaurant cafe still open there in Cat Spring ?


Crossroads Tavern. Cold beer and fried catfish on Fridays. Not farmland, but pastures and hills.
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