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re: Reports of over 20 young camp girls missing In TX floods
Posted on 7/7/25 at 7:59 pm to vl100butch
Posted on 7/7/25 at 7:59 pm to vl100butch
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telling though that another camp in the area kept an eye on the weather forecasts and evacuated 70 people from a low lying area.
It’s certainly early to hyper analyze their emergency plan but at some point down the line i am curious to see what the camp had in place in case of emergency.
even with a siren in place what was the plan if flood notices come in the middle of the night on short notice.
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Posted on 7/7/25 at 8:00 pm to Mr Sausage
quote:thats it
Not farmland, but pastures and hills.
Would shoot down there on occasion when it was in Brenham
with a lady
appreciate your input/perspective on this
Posted on 7/7/25 at 8:05 pm to vl100butch
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It's telling though that another camp in the area kept an eye on the weather forecasts and evacuated 70 people from a low lying area.
1. Mo is on the North Fork. Mystic is on the South Fork. Two different water bodies until they combine in Hunt.
2. 70 campers is a lot less than Mystic.
3. Look at Mo on a map. They did the same thing Mystic did: evacuate the cabins they thought would be in danger.
This post was edited on 7/7/25 at 8:08 pm
Posted on 7/7/25 at 8:23 pm to Mr Sausage
I just don’t understand the evac of one cabin at a time. All counselors in every cabin should have been instructed to evac their kids to high ground at 1am. Simultaneously.
Posted on 7/7/25 at 8:26 pm to Dirk Dawgler
I don’t have any insight into that.
You ever tried to wrangle 12-15 kids in the dark and in the middle of a storm?
You ever tried to wrangle 12-15 kids in the dark and in the middle of a storm?
Posted on 7/7/25 at 8:26 pm to vl100butch
quote:
It's telling though that another camp in the area kept an eye on the weather forecasts and evacuated 70 people from a low lying area.
There were 700 or more at Mystic and Mo-Ranch is higher than Mystic.
And the captain went down with the ship. Co-owner died rescuing more girls. What more did you want from him?
This post was edited on 7/7/25 at 8:27 pm
Posted on 7/7/25 at 8:29 pm to sidewalkside
Will FEMA give people impacted $700 too?
Posted on 7/7/25 at 8:38 pm to dukke v
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They don’t dare blame reality, which is Mother Nature at her worst… the camps have been there for decades.
When the 2016 flood happened, i didn’t get out in time to not have to be boat evac’d to a shelter. My neighborhood had never flooded in recorded history. I also used to camp at Albert Pike. We used to watch the weather and plan accordingly, but if we had been there in 2010, who is to say what would have happened? Cell service doesn’t work there and that tragedy also happened at like 2 a.m. It’s easy to say what to do looking back. Nature finds a way to take people by surprise, even careful people.
Posted on 7/7/25 at 8:43 pm to Mr Sausage
Update from my bro in the field if anyone is interested
- There are drones and choppers everywhere. Some of the drones which find one of the deceased or “loose bodies” will hover and set coordinates from the recovery crew. They hover over the body in case the body gets sucked back into the current or gets dislodged.
- Trae the Truth is a bad arse. He rolled into Hunt with a shitload of chainsaws and generators. Had 3 YT/IG influencers with him that were geared up in cameras and GoPros but Trae worked and worked hard.
- There weren’t as many normies out there as he would’ve thought. He knows a few people who were turned away by TX officials however so that might explain part of it
- DHS and Noem have done a stellar job so far. Being available and on site. They mobilized rather quickly and were regimented
- This is amazing to me: They are clearing 1 mile per hour with the crews they have down there. Cars, trailers, houses and brush.
Prayers to all of the families during such a tough time.
- There are drones and choppers everywhere. Some of the drones which find one of the deceased or “loose bodies” will hover and set coordinates from the recovery crew. They hover over the body in case the body gets sucked back into the current or gets dislodged.
- Trae the Truth is a bad arse. He rolled into Hunt with a shitload of chainsaws and generators. Had 3 YT/IG influencers with him that were geared up in cameras and GoPros but Trae worked and worked hard.
- There weren’t as many normies out there as he would’ve thought. He knows a few people who were turned away by TX officials however so that might explain part of it
- DHS and Noem have done a stellar job so far. Being available and on site. They mobilized rather quickly and were regimented
- This is amazing to me: They are clearing 1 mile per hour with the crews they have down there. Cars, trailers, houses and brush.
Prayers to all of the families during such a tough time.
Posted on 7/7/25 at 8:50 pm to idlewatcher
I don't know the right way to put this, but they are finding more bodies than typical past events, because of location and technology, which is a relief for families, but it's very tough on those that are there
Posted on 7/7/25 at 8:54 pm to idlewatcher
Yep, it was only a matter of time. Issues in NC during the Helene recovery, issues with a collision in LA during the fire response, and now this....
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A privately operated drone collided with a helicopter on the SAR mission in Kerr County. The helicopter was forced to make an emergency landing and is now out of service until further notice.
There IS a TFR in place over the disaster zone which prohibits drone flights from everyone but first responders.
This post was edited on 7/7/25 at 9:00 pm
Posted on 7/7/25 at 9:03 pm to LegendInMyMind
Damn thanks for sharing that. Wonder if they can jam airspace (if that’s even a thing).
Terrible decision on that dudes part
Terrible decision on that dudes part
Posted on 7/7/25 at 9:05 pm to idlewatcher
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Damn thanks for sharing that. Wonder if they can jam airspace (if that’s even a thing).
Terrible decision on that dudes part
Man, it is getting ridiculous. I was going to ask if your brother mentioned anything about civilian drones causing problems.
People have no concept of airspace and how their drones impact it. They also don't seem to care if flying them is banned.
This post was edited on 7/7/25 at 9:05 pm
Posted on 7/7/25 at 9:07 pm to idlewatcher
I haven't seen it mentioned that several of the camps were in between sessions and unoccupied excelt for skeleton crews. It's not that they were more proactive than Mystic, it's just that no one was there.
Posted on 7/7/25 at 9:12 pm to LegendInMyMind
I’m starting to think the authorities should just shoot the unauthorized drones out of the sky before someone gets injured or killed.
Posted on 7/7/25 at 9:12 pm to SmackoverHawg
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There were 700 or more at Mystic and Mo-Ranch is higher than Mystic. And the captain went down with the ship. Co-owner died rescuing more girls. What more did you want from him?
I’m absolutely no expert on hill country flash floods or the topography of their plot but with warnings days in advance of a possible event I’d expect some heightened awareness and possibly even a pre-emptive evacuation depending on the actual threat level and their ability to combat an emerging situation live in the moment.
If they can’t provide safety quickly in the moment, they probably need to err on the side of caution. If they can provide that safety, they probably needed to keep a team on alert overnight during warnings.
We will see what happened as details emerge. I doubt they were evil but they may have been overly careless.
Posted on 7/7/25 at 9:13 pm to LegendInMyMind
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This post was edited on 7/7/25 at 9:21 pm
Posted on 7/7/25 at 9:19 pm to ItTakesAThief
quote:Even though they're almost nothing alike it was similar to the way Harvey just sat over Houston and dumped rain but this happened in a short few hours. Rather than days
he rain/storm cell stayed over the top of the flood continuing to add more water directly on top as it moved downstream.
That much rain concentrated in a shallow river channel
that dumping water in it
happened so fast
and my thoughts aren't on blame it's just on the terror that those poor children must have felt
This post was edited on 7/7/25 at 9:32 pm
Posted on 7/7/25 at 9:21 pm to ItTakesAThief
Sure it’s already been posted but stories out about a Coastie crew that dropped a rescue swimmer into camp mystic and he stayed on ground and coordinated rescues so the helo could carry more kids out. It was his first mission. Came through the same storm from CAS Corpus.
You can say what you want about the Coast Guard, but their helo drivers are first class professionals that fly in some of the nastiest weather Mother Nature can put out.
You can say what you want about the Coast Guard, but their helo drivers are first class professionals that fly in some of the nastiest weather Mother Nature can put out.
Posted on 7/7/25 at 9:29 pm to LegendInMyMind
He’s unaware of that report. I just asked him after reading what you posted. I would imagine he’s not the only one trying to get some NatGeo pics
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