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re: Pro's and Con's of installing a tankless water heater in attic

Posted on 1/5/21 at 2:56 pm to
Posted by ashy larry
Marcy Projects
Member since Mar 2010
5575 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 2:56 pm to
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Is the risk of the tankless water heater busting and leaking still there?

Not if it's installed correctly with a drain pan under it.

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Greater risk or same risk as tank water heater?

If either is installed correctly, you shouldn't have an issue.

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More efficiency of tankless?

It's more efficient in that you only heat the water you use. It's less efficient in that you use more hot water b/c you don't run out of hot water. Showers with endless hot water are fantastic.

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(electric not gas

always gas where it's possible
Posted by LSUtigerME
Walker, LA
Member since Oct 2012
3892 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 2:58 pm to
Need electricity to operate it, even if it’s gas.

There’s minimum flow requirements depending on what size of tankless you get.

They also typically require higher gas flow rates than standard.

As far as in the attic or not, it should be a lower risk of leak/damage since there’s not a tank of 40+ gal of water, just the inlet/outlet lines.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
83326 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 2:59 pm to
Are there cons to tankless?

I only ask because I've floated adding them to different plumbers at two different houses and I think every one has suggested sticking with the tank

Posted by When in Rome
Telegraph Road
Member since Jan 2011
35921 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 3:02 pm to
Good one
Posted by zippyputt
Member since Jul 2005
6475 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 3:02 pm to
3 years with mine and I like it. Replaced several 50 gal tanked units with this one.
Posted by VanRIch
Wherever
Member since Sep 2007
10997 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 3:03 pm to
We have a tankless that services all showers/tubs and a tank that services all sinks, dishwasher and washing machine. So we can get the super hot water in kitchen and utility room. No issues for us. Have had it for 5 years and have had zero issues. We ran out of propane a couple weeks ago and when they refilled it, it reset itself. It’s a Rheem and installed outside. Water heats up plenty fast.
Posted by WhiteMandingo
Member since Jan 2016
6880 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 3:04 pm to
Outside is easier to clean maintain and repair and replace plus if anything goes wron its on the exterior of your home also no holes through your roof for venting.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
69066 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 3:04 pm to
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this is really the case then you need to get a small pump installed on yours.


Higher flow shower head would be easier.
Posted by brass2mouth
NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
20118 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 3:04 pm to
I moved mine outside when I switched over. Cost me about $2k with the water heater and plumbing rework.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
65964 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 3:04 pm to
I've never liked the idea of having any water above my head in a home. I realize that is the way builders are going and people like it because it frees up space and is out of sight, but damage can add up quickly if/when something happens.

Sidenote: Has anyone here used the moisture sensors/alarms that are on the market now? How well do they work?
Posted by madamsquirrel
The big somewhere out there
Member since Jul 2009
53433 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 3:07 pm to
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I've never liked the idea of having any water above my head in a home
ours is above our bedroom



I need super hot water for my baths also. So that would be a deal breaker for me.
This post was edited on 1/5/21 at 3:09 pm
Posted by tirebiter
7K R&G chile land aka SF
Member since Oct 2006
10397 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 3:20 pm to
I recently rented a small place for 90-days while looking for a new house. The owner had a gas tankless installed in an upper kitchen cabinet closest to the exterior wall with venting out the exterior wall. It was loud AF as it was right by the kitchen sink, but never lost hot water. If you are going electric you may have to upgrade to a 220V connection.
Posted by Rendevoustavern
Member since May 2018
1693 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 3:31 pm to
I would not recommend a tankless water heater if you have long runs. We have a tankless in a rental and you have to run the water for a few minutes before you get hot water.

We have 2 40 gal gas water heaters in our house and they work just fine and probably operate at the same cost in the winter and lower in the summer.
Posted by BRich
Old Metairie
Member since Aug 2017
2521 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 3:40 pm to
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Need electricity to operate it, even if it’s gas.


This is a deal breaker for me.

Hurricane Zeta hit last year, power out for a day or so. Could still cook on gas cooktop, and never ran out of hot water from gas water heater tank.

Seems like if you lose power with tankless, you're out of luck.
Posted by monstranceclock76
Texas
Member since Jul 2019
932 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 3:45 pm to
Pro- hot water on demand
Con- total beta move
Posted by coondaddy21
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2012
3222 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 3:49 pm to
I have 2 Rinnai tankless heaters in my attic. They are both condensing units. They work great and need to be direct vented outside through the roof with a roof jack. The condensing drain needs to be tied into the plumbing and you need a pan underneath it just in case there is ever a leak. I have had mine for 5 years and the original installers didn’t divert my condensing drain into my plumbing and it rusted out my drain pain by constantly dripping water when running, which is normal. The only thing not normal is it was suppose to be diverted to the plumbing drain and not into a drain pan. 5 years later and a rusted out pan, I finally got it installed correctly.

Gas is the only way to go as it is more efficient and placing the unit in close proximity to where it’s needed the most will prevent the wait for the water to get hot. Mine takes about 30-45 seconds to get hot, which is tolerable.

The only cons I can think is it usually needs to be flushed every 2 years to prevent calcium and lime build up and the cost. They are usually a good bit more expensive but the benefits definitely outweigh those issues.
This post was edited on 1/5/21 at 3:54 pm
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
101667 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 3:50 pm to
We had tankless at our old house and looked at it in the new.

The plumbers we talked to pretty much said “don’t waste your time on the electric model”. I think it had to do with how much effort it took to get hot water out from electric vs gas, doubly so when it is cold outside.
Posted by The Third Leg
Idiot Out Wandering Around
Member since May 2014
10665 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 3:53 pm to
I would look to relocate a water heater out of the attic. Asking for trouble there.
Posted by dupergreenie
Member since May 2014
7297 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 3:54 pm to
PIIHB

did i do this right?
Posted by Skippy1013
Lafayette, La
Member since Oct 2017
690 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 3:56 pm to
I did it, cons are the cost. Also, in the winter, on really cold mornings, it takes a while to get consistent hot water as it’s pulling water out of the supply line and that water is real cold. With a tank, the water from the tank is already hot

Pros, less space, less fuel cost, they last a long time sine there is no tank to rust out.

I’m overall happy with it.
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