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re: Parents of 2 little girls murdered while hiking

Posted on 7/28/25 at 11:04 am to
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
51968 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 11:04 am to
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Nothing bad happens until it does, and Id just as soon be prepared.

Nothing wrong with that, nor with deciding not to carry. Carrying involves risk, too. People get shot accidentally sometimes.
Posted by forkedintheroad
Member since Feb 2025
1484 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 11:06 am to
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My 1st thought is why did mom return to attack site? I get why she did it and also was not in her rational mind. She would have lived had she stayed with her children and as difficult as it was, allow the law enforcement to go back to the site.


You can't question this. She's going back to help her husband. There's no rational thinking involved. The kids will understand one day.
Posted by Terrance Cutler
Fayetteville, AR
Member since Nov 2021
44 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 11:17 am to
closer to 40 mins from Fayetteville.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
107498 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 11:21 am to
They need to catch this fricker NOW. All parks should have cameras up for all people entering and exiting. Not sure if this one did.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
73074 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 11:34 am to
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I learn amazing things in this place.


no, it's just AwgustaDog. he's a dumbass who spews diarrhea 4 paragraphs at a time on this website.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
9016 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 12:07 pm to



quote:

Carry a gun if you want to but doing so to prevent being one of 2 of 950,000 people, again a very low number, is ludicrous.


He is talking about hiking in the woods anywhere. If you look at bear attacks in National Parks and compare number of visitors you would likely get insignificant chance of risk...but nobody says carrying bear spray is ludicrous.
Posted by JEC119
Alabama
Member since Apr 2024
2165 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 12:17 pm to
quote:

This is why you pack when hiking


Truer words never spoken. I always have my firearm on me when hiking and I do a lot of hiking. It has saved me two times.

A lot of sorry arse people take advantage of any situation.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
35782 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 12:21 pm to
quote:

I always have my firearm on me when hiking and I do a lot of hiking. It has saved me two times.



Jesus H, where the hell do you go hiking?

Posted by BluegrassCardinal
Kentucky
Member since Nov 2022
1729 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 12:22 pm to
I know we all want this to make sense, however this could fall into the random nut job attack category. Sadly these evil bastards exist. Reminds me of that sick F that killed the two girls in Indiana while hiking a few years back.

A good blast of bear spray in that bastard’s face would have broke that attack off fast.
Posted by Landmass
Premium Member
Member since Jun 2013
24659 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 12:24 pm to
If you aren't carrying a firearm, you're a statistic waiting to happen.
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
4597 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 12:25 pm to
I get it and we all would have done the same. It’s just a thought that crossed my mind reading. Terrible.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
51968 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 12:27 pm to
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he's a dumbass who spews diarrhea 4 paragraphs at a time

A great word that is nearly unknown is logorrhea.
Posted by PalletJack
LA by birth, TX by choice
Member since Oct 2024
884 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 12:37 pm to
quote:

If you aren't carrying a firearm, you're a statistic waiting to happen.


Here's a stat for you:

one study found that individuals who possessed guns were 4.46 times more likely to be shot in an assault.
Posted by JEC119
Alabama
Member since Apr 2024
2165 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 12:53 pm to
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Jesus H, where the hell do you go hiking?


lol

Well the only two times it has happened was hiking in Ruffner Mountain Park. ( it’s not a big hike but close to get a hike in) It’s in Birmingham and one side butts up against a not so good part of town.

Had the culture try to rob me at knife point one time and then one time I came up on a couple getting robbed at knife point.

It was both times a true crocodile Dundee moment… because I had a gun.

The one where I came up on the couple being robbed, I held the guy at gun point while the man beat the shite out of the little gangster and then walked him back to the police who met us on the trail.

Edit to add I don’t hike there anymore.
This post was edited on 7/28/25 at 12:54 pm
Posted by Potchafa
Avoyelles
Member since Jul 2016
4172 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 12:58 pm to
We are in the Jasper are 4 to 5 times a year for a week at a time. We've learned many BFE areas and are without cell reception most of the time. I always have my Shield 9mm and my wife always has her Sig on the side of our back packs!!!!!!
Posted by eatpie
Kentucky
Member since Aug 2018
1554 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 1:39 pm to
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Well the only two times it has happened was hiking in Ruffner Mountain Park. ( it’s not a big hike but close to get a hike in) It’s in Birmingham and one side butts up against a not so good part of town.

Had the culture try to rob me at knife point one time and then one time I came up on a couple getting robbed at knife point.

It was both times a true crocodile Dundee moment… because I had a gun.

The one where I came up on the couple being robbed, I held the guy at gun point while the man beat the shite out of the little gangster and then walked him back to the police who met us on the trail.




Wow, that all sounds almost like it happened!
Posted by Swagga
504
Member since Dec 2009
18672 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 1:43 pm to
It’s always amazing how many on the OT are victims of crime.

I work in New Orleans East, one of the most dangerous neighborhoods in the world and I’ve never been a victim of a robbery. Yet we have an OTer that has had to play vigilante twice on a random mountain in Alabama. What are the odds.

Posted by oleheat
Sportsman's Paradise
Member since Mar 2007
14532 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 1:52 pm to
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Here's a stat for you:

one study found that individuals who possessed guns were 4.46 times more likely to be shot in an assault.




Another study showed that an attacker is MUCH more likely to be shot by someone with a firearm than by someone who's unarmed.


This post was edited on 7/28/25 at 1:54 pm
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8577 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 2:03 pm to
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It’s always amazing how many on the OT are victims of crime.

I work in New Orleans East, one of the most dangerous neighborhoods in the world and I’ve never been a victim of a robbery. Yet we have an OTer that has had to play vigilante twice on a random mountain in Alabama. What are the odds.


Eh, I am not saying I believe the guy, but if it's going to happen, Ruffner Mountain would be about the likeliest spot for it I could possible think of.

It buts up against two of the worst neighborhoods (East Lake and Roebuck) in one of the more dangerous cities in America if you go by per capita violence and murder rates. It's pretty, but I sure as hell wouldn't hike there without a personal weapon.
This post was edited on 7/28/25 at 2:05 pm
Posted by BK Lounge
Member since Nov 2021
5030 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 2:08 pm to
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Here's a stat for you: one study found that individuals who possessed guns were 4.46 times more likely to be shot in an assault.



I saw a stat - though it’s been a few years ago, so dont come at me- that if you have a gun in ur home, it’s 40 TIMES more likely that someone in your home/family will be injured or killed by it than a criminal/someone who’s breaking into your home .

Perhaps someone with more time their hands than i do can look it up and verify if that’s accurate .
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