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re: Parents of 2 little girls murdered while hiking

Posted on 7/28/25 at 9:33 pm to
Posted by TheRouxGuru
Member since Nov 2019
14286 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 9:33 pm to
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The U.S. trail system is a community unto itself, a community of millions of hikers/backpackers per year. I'm a member of all the major hiking associations across the country. These associations track the trail crime stats and violent crimes on the trails are practically non existent.


dude I don’t give a shite who you are - unless you’re law enforcement, you aren’t entitled to shite! My only point was to be patient and wait for law enforcement to come out with all the facts and that there was no point in you trying to solve the mystery all by yourself

No need to pull out your state park hiking association badge on me
Posted by Disco Ball
Denham Springs
Member since May 2025
1429 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 10:40 pm to
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dude I don’t give a shite who you are - unless you’re law enforcement


This statement speaks volumes about your situation and mindset. The members of the TD forum & especially the O-T forum don't care who either one of us are.
We simply come here, albeit in various levels of mindfulness, consciousness and intoxication to discuss concepts, ideas, curent events in the hopes of making the world a better place and having a good laugh even though sometimes it's not appropriate and the current events are unbearbly depressing. The anonymity of forums can be very healing.
You sir, oops I may be using the wrong pronoun, whatever the hell you are need to take a very deep breath, count to 10 backwards and exhale all your insecurities.
Posted by Tr33fiddy
Hog Jaw, Arkansas (it exists)
Member since Aug 2023
1971 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 12:20 am to
quote:

These associations track the trail crime stats and violent crimes on the trails are practically non existent.


I have a theory that remote trails are the best place to kill someone and get away with it. The violent crime stats on trails are skewed because so many of the victims are just missing instead of recorded as a crime stat.

I am in close proximity to the Ouachita trail and I won't walk it with my family without a side arm and that's because of the sketchy people on the trail, not the wildlife.
Posted by Tr33fiddy
Hog Jaw, Arkansas (it exists)
Member since Aug 2023
1971 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 12:26 am to
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10 years ago, my cajun friend and I went hiking at some state park in Arkansas. It was like an hour or 2 away from Texarkana.

There were a bunch of locals there in so
ide-by-side atvs.

They just WOULD. NOT. STOP. STARING AT ME.

For the record, I'm a brown guy.



There are counties in arkansas someone can go months without seeing a brown person. To those guys seeing a minority in the mountains might as well be like seeing bigfoot.

I'm sorry our locals freaked ya out. They are more scared of you than you are of them lol
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
19821 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 12:44 am to
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This is why you pack when hiking.

Glock 20 (10mm) with Buffalo Bore Dangerous Game loads. Not optimal for 2-legged predators, but it'll work on pretty much anything in Arkansas.
Posted by Lou Loomis
A pond. Ponds good for you.
Member since Mar 2025
1966 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 3:14 am to
I think we’ll find that this was some witness protection gone bad. Somebody found them and got revenge.
Posted by Saintsisit
Member since Jan 2013
5257 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 5:36 am to
Witness protection? Wasn't it posted earlier in the thread they posted on FB regularly?

Posted by BallHawg10
On the Flagship - Fayetteville
Member since Mar 2011
4756 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 6:21 am to
So I live less than 30 minutes away from where this took place. I saw the 10 page thread on the OT and thought perfect, this is gonna be a classic OT sleuth thread where random people on the internet can get more details than law enforcement is willing to release or whatever.

Having now read through the thread, I am disappointed
Posted by 87PurpleandGold
Arkansas
Member since Sep 2016
885 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 6:22 am to
I live only about 1.5 hr drive from that park. My wife and I have hiked that area and that specific trail. The whole NWA area is shocked. I hope this guy is caught quickly and the ASP know more than they're saying. Those little girls' lives are forever changed.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 6:26 am to
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I live out west . Full of soy. And don’t know anyone scared to go anywhere without a gun out here.



Yes you do, you just dont know it.

Many hikers carry in a bag or chest/CCL holster. There are guns there, you're just not aware.
Posted by TheRouxGuru
Member since Nov 2019
14286 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 7:41 am to
quote:

So I live less than 30 minutes away from where this took place. I saw the 10 page thread on the OT and thought perfect, this is gonna be a classic OT sleuth thread where random people on the internet can get more details than law enforcement is willing to release or whatever.

Having now read through the thread, I am disappointed


Dude what??? Did you miss the part where we have an actual member of the hiking association of America in this thread with us? He’s gonna have this shite figured out by lunchtime
Posted by BamaSaint
Moh-beel
Member since Mar 2013
3970 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 7:48 am to
quote:

this is gonna be a classic OT sleuth thread where random people on the internet can get more details than law enforcement is willing to release or whatever.

Having now read through the thread, I am disappointed

There's already a "new" poster in here trying to do just that while waving his hiking badge around
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
1 room down from Erin Andrews
Member since May 2004
25671 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 7:57 am to
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They just WOULD. NOT. STOP. STARING AT ME.

For the record, I'm a brown guy.

I'm glad I had the heat on my hip in case they wanted to reenact Deliverance.


It isn’t the 1960’s anymore. Today, it’s the brown people you have to worry about.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
68474 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 8:05 am to
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It takes an effort to get onto these trails, especially Devil's Den, and this is unusual for a random killing


Bryan Kohberger likely spent months planning his attacks on the college students in Idaho with no clear motive.

We just had a mass shooting in NYC yesterday where the guy drove cross country from Vegas to carry out his acts.

You don't think some mentally deranged guy could walk to a remote part of an easy family trail and lie in wait for someone to pass by? This is probably one of the most low effort random killings I've heard of.
This post was edited on 7/29/25 at 8:06 am
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
26703 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 8:17 am to
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I live out west . Full of soy. And don’t know anyone scared to go anywhere without a gun out here.


New Mexico is #1 and California is #6 in the country for Violent Crime rate per capita...

Arkansas, Louisiana and Tennessee are top 5 as well...seems like anyone has a reason to pack in those States, especially when in cities
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
108042 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 8:28 am to
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So the mom took the kids to the ranger station after seeing her husband get stabbed and then went back....alone?

That's so odd as to almost defy belief.


Also find it odd the murderer waited around to murder her after she came back. I’d think a random stabbing the guy who committed the murder would’ve hauled arse shortly after and not waited on her to come back.
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
150379 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 8:32 am to
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For the record, I'm a brown guy.

quote:

by doc baklava
this tracks
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
39645 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 8:35 am to
I don't.

She wanted to possibly aid het husband and maybe assumed the murderer was gone.

Better question is why didn't a ranger go with her.
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
49636 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 9:30 am to
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She wanted to possibly aid het husband and maybe assumed the murderer was gone.

Better question is why didn't a ranger go with her.


Trying to follow this, but there doesn't seem to be a lot of information, though I may have missed some.

Did she go to a ranger station or just the visitors center?

If a ranger station, I would think she would have reported what happened and a ranger would be going to the scene.

If a visitors center, were there no other people around?

How did anyone find them? Did the kids report to someone? Did another hiker come upon them?

How far away did she take the kids from the scene? How much time elapsed between the murder of the husband and her return to the scene?

It seems very odd that once she ran, that the killer would have remained at the scene.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
72102 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 9:37 am to
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To those guys seeing a minority in the mountains might as well be like seeing bigfoot.




True though.
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