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re: New York Times photojournalist goes to Venezuela: pretty incredible pics
Posted on 11/29/18 at 11:50 pm to TigerDeacon
Posted on 11/29/18 at 11:50 pm to TigerDeacon
quote:If you starve them long enough and in large enough numbers, then they will be too weak to fight. Plus one has to imagine that corruption within their government played a huge role in their inequalities.
I am surprised a mass uprising hasn't happened yet. No matter how brutal a regime is, when people are starving they have no choice to revolt.
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Posted on 11/29/18 at 11:57 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
But muh socialism.
Posted on 11/29/18 at 11:58 pm to theunknownknight
Looks like 122 dumbasses. 
Gotta love the groupthink when the downvotes start on an obvious joke.
Gotta love the groupthink when the downvotes start on an obvious joke.
Posted on 11/30/18 at 12:20 am to Zappas Stache
quote:Lol. One leads to the other. Every time
No. 1, Venezuala does not have a socialist government. Its more of a marxist dictator.
quote:No. they’re not. If you believe that you’re a fool.
No. 2, the politicians you refer too are embracing social democracy, not socialism. Social democracy is more like what Sweden has.
Posted on 11/30/18 at 12:23 am to Bayou_Tiger_225
quote:No. it works when you actually enforce standards for actually receiving the welfare, which not a single leftist politician in this country supports. It also works when your security is guaranteed by the United States military and you don’t have to spend any money on your own army. Sweden isn’t a “socialist democracy”. It’s a fraud and mooch. All of the Europeans are.
Yet those politicians are too stupid to realize a social democracy only "works" in mostly homogeneous countries with small populations. For example Sweden has the same number of people as North Carolina.
Posted on 11/30/18 at 1:42 am to Zappas Stache
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Social democracy is a political, social and economic ideology that supports economic and social interventions to promote social justice within the framework of a liberal democratic polity and capitalist economy.
Interesting that you post this, because every single "social Democrat" I know (and sadly, I know dozens of them), claim to be anticapitalists.
So, basically, the leftists in the US are low IQ imbeciles.
This post was edited on 11/30/18 at 1:57 am
Posted on 11/30/18 at 3:37 am to Y.A. Tittle
quote:
we have politicians here outwardly embracing socialism in numbers never seen before in this country
Says the side that elected a guy who tried to sell steaks via the United States Postal service.
Posted on 11/30/18 at 6:41 am to CaptainBrannigan
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Says the side that elected a guy who tried to sell steaks via the United States Postal service.
Another person who doesn’t understand socialism.
Posted on 11/30/18 at 6:45 am to GeauxxxTigers23
quote:
Lol. One leads to the other. Every time
This time is totally different. Our communists are virtuous!
Posted on 11/30/18 at 6:58 am to Zappas Stache
quote:
No. 2, the politicians you refer too are embracing social democracy, not socialism. Social democracy is more like what Sweden has.
You’re better than this.
Posted on 11/30/18 at 7:17 am to Mo Jeaux
Apparently “social democracy” means purer capitalism, lower government regulation of the economy, a more evenly distributed tax system, and lower per capita government benefit spending.
This post was edited on 11/30/18 at 7:20 am
Posted on 11/30/18 at 7:20 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Progressives:
It will work here. Venezuela just did not do it right.
It will work here. Venezuela just did not do it right.
Posted on 11/30/18 at 7:21 am to Mo Jeaux
Sweden is capitalist with a huge welfare state, which gets into a murky definition and socialism is commonly used for these large redistribution societies (b/c property becomes less of an individual thing and more of a state thing)
Venezuela is clearly socialist and was clearly praised by DSA-types like Bernie. the current progressive, DSA-types want to end capitalism
i've argued with many legit socialists/communists (Sorry, "anarchists") over FB the past few months and am ready for all supporters
Venezuela is clearly socialist and was clearly praised by DSA-types like Bernie. the current progressive, DSA-types want to end capitalism
i've argued with many legit socialists/communists (Sorry, "anarchists") over FB the past few months and am ready for all supporters
This post was edited on 11/30/18 at 7:23 am
Posted on 11/30/18 at 7:57 am to gthog61
You see everything in terms of left and right, do you?
The world is much more complicated than that. Please keep your mouth closed while breathing.
The world is much more complicated than that. Please keep your mouth closed while breathing.
Posted on 11/30/18 at 7:57 am to Zappas Stache
quote:
, the politicians you refer too are embracing social democracy, not socialism. Social democracy is more like what Sweden has.
What the hell is wrong with a Constitutional Republic?
Posted on 11/30/18 at 7:59 am to ElderTiger
quote:
This is really no surprise.
During my years on earth, I’ve known a lot of people who have lived and or worked in countries that are now in shambles..,Venezuela, Cuba, Iran, Afghanistan,... and all have said what great places they were in the 50s, 60s and early seventies. Then the nuts took over promising everybody a better life and look what hzppened. And yet to this day, people in this country think that if we could just make America like these places, we would be greater than we are now.
I just don’t get it.
This all day long. Like these kinds of examples should be everywhere. The US media wouldnt allow it to be said though. As when you look at the proximate cause they will have to admit their belief system is horrible.
This is why central american countries like Guatemala are horrid. Im not a Catholic hater, but the Catholic Church has deserve a lot of blame for all of this as they've teamed up with these loons. The current Pope is a clear example.
Another example being Iran under the Shah. Yeah the guy was tough with political advisories that wanted to turn the country into what Jimmy Carter, ended up helping it turn into. The left wing press would have to admit he was a horrible president, and made a big mistake. They cant do that. Obama did a similar thing with colombia, but used the free trade agreement to stick it to them.
The left leadership knows what they are doing, and take advantage of the poor and disadvantage lack of education. Leftist guerrillas up in the mountains of south america are a clear example of this. They have no f-inf clue what they "fight for" anymore, as their leaders are living the life in the city and rubbing elbows.
Posted on 11/30/18 at 8:32 am to 14&Counting
quote:
he bastards who run things in Latin America.
Guess which country has meddled in South America the last 50 years and put all these things in motion.
This post was edited on 11/30/18 at 8:33 am
Posted on 11/30/18 at 8:35 am to upgrayedd
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Sweden is actually far less socialist than they used to be. Know why? They ran out of money.
This goes for all of the Scandinavian countries. All had more robust welfare state programs 20 years ago.
Posted on 11/30/18 at 8:37 am to skullhawk
The population ain't so homogeneous any more. That'll tend to effect the money.
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