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re: New York Times photojournalist goes to Venezuela: pretty incredible pics
Posted on 11/29/18 at 12:39 pm to Antonio Moss
Posted on 11/29/18 at 12:39 pm to Antonio Moss
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With Communists, expect Communism.
what are you paraphrasing here? I recognize it but I can't find the original
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Posted on 11/29/18 at 12:41 pm to TigerDeacon
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I am surprised a mass uprising hasn't happened yet.
But it has. They just get shot without making any progress.
Posted on 11/29/18 at 12:42 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Just look at this. I bet he doesn't even have to pay for healthcare. Touche capitalists.
Posted on 11/29/18 at 12:43 pm to Logician
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calm down, if you like your health insurance, you can keep it. premiums are going to go way down.
calm down, no one's trying to take your guns away.
calm down, no one can "ban" you from social media.
calm down, this is a different socialism. it's gonna work this time.
Feel like this one is a bit different than the others
Posted on 11/29/18 at 12:50 pm to i am dan
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Sweden is converting back to a more capitalistic govt.
Economic right
What about there social ideals??
Fixing the economy for a country like that is way easier than changing the social mindset of a society.
Posted on 11/29/18 at 1:08 pm to TigerDeacon
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I am surprised a mass uprising hasn't happened yet. No matter how brutal a regime is, when people are starving they have no choice to revolt.
not true. most cultures just feign rebellion while taking it up the arse til they're dead.
a hot meal and a fat woman mean way too much to most cultures.
Posted on 11/29/18 at 1:42 pm to Zappas Stache
Someone has never studied political science or economics:
Socialism is defined as the government ownership of the means of production and distribution under authoritarianism.
In sum, Marxist dictator = socialism
Ignorance in spades.
Sweden has a purer form of capitalism than the U.S. They are, in no way, socialist.
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No. 1, Venezuala does not have a socialist government. Its more of a marxist dictator.
Socialism is defined as the government ownership of the means of production and distribution under authoritarianism.
In sum, Marxist dictator = socialism
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No. 2, the politicians you refer too are embracing social democracy, not socialism. Social democracy is more like what Sweden has.
Ignorance in spades.
Sweden has a purer form of capitalism than the U.S. They are, in no way, socialist.
Posted on 11/29/18 at 1:44 pm to CptRusty
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With Communists, expect Communism.
what are you paraphrasing here? I recognize it but I can't find the original
Jersey Tiger used to have that as his sig quote.
Posted on 11/29/18 at 1:54 pm to Antonio Moss
hmm, I thought it was some famous quote " With Xes, expect Xism"...maybe not.
Posted on 11/29/18 at 1:58 pm to Antonio Moss
Posted on 11/29/18 at 2:03 pm to el Gaucho
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The communists want Venezuela here
FIFY
Call them what they are, anti-constitutionalist communists
Posted on 11/29/18 at 2:08 pm to WaltTeevens
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What are you doing? The truth is like poison to these people! They just refuse it!
Yes. Social Democrats in the U.S. abhor Venezuela and its policies! Clearly the vague description of their policy goals stands in stark contrast to the ones sought by Bolivar regimes! Not a convenient moving of goal posts at all!
Posted on 11/29/18 at 2:10 pm to Lou Pai
Posted on 11/29/18 at 2:17 pm to geauxtigahs87
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These days, the American dream is more apt to be realized in South America, in places such as Ecuador, Venezuela and Argentina, where incomes are actually more equal today than they are in the land of Horatio Alger. Who's the banana republic now?
I agree that this article is ridiculous, but to be fair this was written in 2011. 2 years before Maduro took the presidency of Venezuela, already a shitty country, and completely fricked it in the arse.
Posted on 11/29/18 at 2:17 pm to WaltTeevens
I can sum this post (and most progressive thought) thusly:
"I know better than you how you should be helping your fellow man, and I'll use the power of the government to make you help the way I think you should. Because I'm more enlightened than you, you *insert ad hominem attack of choice here*."
"I know better than you how you should be helping your fellow man, and I'll use the power of the government to make you help the way I think you should. Because I'm more enlightened than you, you *insert ad hominem attack of choice here*."
This post was edited on 11/29/18 at 2:18 pm
Posted on 11/29/18 at 2:17 pm to upgrayedd
Walt Teevens finds that picture gross fyi FWIW
Posted on 11/29/18 at 2:21 pm to Lou Pai
quote:then my job here is complete
Walt Teevens finds that picture gross fyi FWIW
Posted on 11/29/18 at 2:54 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Socialism
Not even once.
Not even once.
Posted on 11/29/18 at 3:01 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
A high school kid in the USA working 15 hours a week earning minimum wage is in the top 20% of salaries across the world.
But capitalism doesn’t work.
But capitalism doesn’t work.
Posted on 11/29/18 at 3:02 pm to Zappas Stache
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No. 1, Venezuala does not have a socialist government. Its more of a marxist dictator.
No. 2, the politicians you refer too are embracing social democracy, not socialism. Social democracy is more like what Sweden has.
Except, ya know, the face of this so called "social democracy" movement has been quoted praising Venezuela's form of gov't.
But let's not let that get in the way. He just liked the good parts right?
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