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Posted on 7/15/26 at 9:04 am to Broham
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Posted on 7/15/26 at 9:14 am to Gravitiger
DST year round, yes please. The more daylight after work the better.
Kids don't walk to school anymore, what hole have you guys been living in? This isn't the 1980s anymore.
All I know is driving to work in the dark and leaving work in the dark during the winter sucks.
Kids don't walk to school anymore, what hole have you guys been living in? This isn't the 1980s anymore.
All I know is driving to work in the dark and leaving work in the dark during the winter sucks.
Posted on 7/15/26 at 9:20 am to stout
But what about my one ultra specific anecdote as to why its a bad idea?
Posted on 7/15/26 at 9:23 am to stout
Why do the time zone lines not follow state lines and some of them zig and zag through states? I’ve always wondered that never figured it out.
This post was edited on 7/15/26 at 9:24 am
Posted on 7/15/26 at 9:25 am to Broham
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Tell me when have they ever voted against it. A quick search told me ZERO.
The Senate passed a bill in 2022 but the house didn't even take it up.
Posted on 7/15/26 at 9:29 am to stout
Pretty sure almost everywhere that has tried permanent DST it hasnt worked , it almost always gets reversed, including here….
Meanwhile, permanent standard time has worked and stuck everywhere that has tried it
Almost all studies point to permanent standard time being better as well. Makes sense our congress would chose the opposite
Meanwhile, permanent standard time has worked and stuck everywhere that has tried it
Almost all studies point to permanent standard time being better as well. Makes sense our congress would chose the opposite
This post was edited on 7/15/26 at 9:31 am
Posted on 7/15/26 at 9:30 am to Dire Wolf
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the country was still more or less domianted by the population in northeast and midwest,
Good point
The center of population has shifted
Might not seem like a huge shift on the surface but the shift clearly shows that western and southern growth is dominating
Posted on 7/15/26 at 9:32 am to mauser
How do they handle it in Alaska when the sun is only up for a couple of hours or less in the winter?
The kids will be fine.
The kids will be fine.
Posted on 7/15/26 at 9:35 am to WylieTiger
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How do they handle it in Alaska when the sun is only up for a couple of hours or less in the winter?
Probably not a great example given the high levels of alcoholism, substance use, and depression in that population.
Posted on 7/15/26 at 9:36 am to BluegrassBelle
Yeh it just seems simple. It’s pretty clear with evidence that standard time is better. What the hell was the reason they went with DST? Just to “yolo”?
Posted on 7/15/26 at 9:37 am to BluegrassBelle
True but I don't think the kids are drinking at the bus stop. I am commenting on the people worried about the kids in the dark.
Posted on 7/15/26 at 9:38 am to lsupride87
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Meanwhile, permanent standard time has worked and stuck everywhere that has tried it
Almost all studies point to permanent standard time being better as well. Makes sense our congress would chose the opposite
I'm pretty sure Arizona has permanent standard time and has kept it successfully since the 60s.
Posted on 7/15/26 at 9:39 am to YumYum Sauce
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But what about my one ultra specific anecdote as to why its a bad idea?
I think most people are good with a solution that keeps the clock from changing twice a year.
The disagreement is whether you keep Daylight Saving or Standard. I'm firmly in the Standard camp. But I'm also in the city that will have a 9:00 am sunrise with DST in the winter.
This post was edited on 7/15/26 at 9:40 am
Posted on 7/15/26 at 9:40 am to BluegrassBelle
I’m fairly certain permanent standard time has a 100% success rate and permanent DST is like 45%
Posted on 7/15/26 at 9:40 am to Buck_Rogers
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you want to see daylight then wake your lazy arse up, and leave the clock where it belongs at standard time.
Posted on 7/15/26 at 9:40 am to stout
Showing both Austin and Dallas in Texas is completely unnecessary.
Posted on 7/15/26 at 9:45 am to FliesByNight
Did they give a reason at all why they picked DST over standard time?
Posted on 7/15/26 at 9:45 am to mauser
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I think grade school and middle school kids walking to school or waiting at a bus stop in the dark is a bad idea.
They already are. Some kids get picked up before 6 am
Posted on 7/15/26 at 9:47 am to lsupride87
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Makes sense our congress would chose the opposite
It's the "pizza for lunch every day" and "no homework" 4th grade class president campaign promise that appeals on the very surface level to the masses. But, when some critical thought is applied it doesn't sound as great.
Yes, when it is warm, in July, and you are having fun outside until 8:30 pm you ask "why don't we do this year round?!". But then, once you take a second to think that the amount of daylight in the winter gets shorter regardless of what time system you apply, then the bump of sunset from 5:30 pm to 6:30 pm, during the coldest part of the year, doesn't sound as great when it comes with a corresponding change that it remains dark until 8:00 am - 9:00 am.
While I like standard time, I think the way we have it now is just fine. In the spring, summer and (most of) fall we have "longer" days. In the winter we make a trade to have an "earlier" sunrise. IMO, that is a reasonable compromise
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