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re: Louisiana’s $2-Billion Gamble: Flood the Land to Save the Coast
Posted on 2/22/22 at 9:29 am to Tigeralum2008
Posted on 2/22/22 at 9:29 am to Tigeralum2008
quote:there is no other delta like the MS in any other region of the world.
Has this been proven in any other region of the world?
Posted on 2/22/22 at 9:30 am to jimbeam
Sadly this will build land at a snails pace. The river does not carry nearly enough sediment since it was leveed after the 1927 flood. I fish down in Venice below the levee system where nature still does it's thing. Erosion is just as bad down there. The delta is sinking and the river has been choked off by the levees. Throw in some sea rise and SE LA fricked. It is sad.
Posted on 2/22/22 at 9:31 am to Stealth Matrix
quote:Dude CPRA wasn’t even around 40 years ago and DNR had a closet with like 4 dudes working on coastal projects in the 90s. How would you have expected a damn river diversion to get designed and built
This should've been implemented 40 years ago, but at least someone is FINALLY trying to get the damage reversed. It sucks for the fishermen, but, in the long run they'll still have land for their homes decades from now.
Posted on 2/22/22 at 9:37 am to Bigfishchoupique
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We aren’t supposed to be living here.
How stupid!
Posted on 2/22/22 at 9:40 am to beerJeep
frick the oyster fisherman and commercial in general.
Posted on 2/22/22 at 9:41 am to goofball
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“We know we need land,” says George Ricks, a charter boat captain and founder of the Save Louisiana Coalition, a nonprofit fighting the development of the diversion. “But this is going to destroy our commercial fishing and recreational fishing communities—it’s going to bring great hardship.”
This is Louisiana in a nut shell. NIMBY!
Posted on 2/22/22 at 9:44 am to goofball
Great plan, because they they have gotten it right previously
Mother Nature is like pussy.
Mother Nature is like pussy.
Posted on 2/22/22 at 9:45 am to CoachChappy
A couple of years ago someone proposed eventually blowing the levees below New Orleans and moving the mouth of the river 60 miles north. It would rebuild the coast with a quickness, but of course is opposed by the shipping industry and the port of NO. And the fishermen of course.
Posted on 2/22/22 at 9:46 am to Slippy
That was part of the Changing Course program right?
Posted on 2/22/22 at 9:48 am to Meauxjeaux
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It won’t destroy shite.
It’ll move it around a bit, push it a few more miles further maybe. But the habitat will not get destroyed.
It will absolutely change the fishing. Anyone that fishes the Biloxi Marsh knows that when the Bonnet Carre Spillway is opened, the influx of river water destroys the fishing until the sediment has settled and the salinity returns to levels that species like speckled trout can live in.
Now, something has to be done and I have yet to see a better alternative. I love to fish down there but it will change bay fishing as long as they are opening those diversion canals. I also have not seen any proposed solutions by those that oppose these projects.
Posted on 2/22/22 at 9:49 am to deathvalleytiger10
It’s dredging that they want, which the state is doing a lot of but that is a never ending cycle. It’s not the best long term solution.
Posted on 2/22/22 at 9:57 am to goofball
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Flood the Land to Save the Coast
What an alarmist clickbait headline. Jesus.
Posted on 2/22/22 at 9:59 am to deathvalleytiger10
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It will absolutely change the fishing. Anyone that fishes the Biloxi Marsh knows that when the Bonnet Carre Spillway is opened, the influx of river water destroys the fishing until the sediment has settled and the salinity returns to levels that species like speckled trout can live in.
Now, something has to be done and I have yet to see a better alternative. I love to fish down there but it will change bay fishing as long as they are opening those diversion canals. I also have not seen any proposed solutions by those that oppose these projects.
If the life of the MS river was a clock the diversions would be one millisecond and the influx of river water with sediment would be basically 24 hours.
Posted on 2/22/22 at 10:01 am to goofball
People eat oysters from LA? Gross.
Posted on 2/22/22 at 10:04 am to goofball
Save 2 billion and have the airmen at Belle Chase Airbase drop some ordinance on the levees around Jesuit bend and call it a day,
Posted on 2/22/22 at 11:29 am to tigeraddict
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the river did this naturally every time the Mississippi River flooded
and moved a crap ton more sediment into the estuaries than the diversion projects will accomplish.
Posted on 2/22/22 at 12:19 pm to goofball
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On average, between 1985 and 2010, Louisiana lost about a football field of coastline per hour, and the rate has not slowed
is this true?
someone smarter than me should do the math
I ended up at 12,451 miles of flooded land?
Posted on 2/22/22 at 12:31 pm to Sir Drinksalot
We are learning a lot in recent decades about the influence of hurricanes and cold fronts on the coast. Ida took out roughly 200 sq miles of mostly flotant marsh, but the math will change some.
If one had to add up the relative contributors of long term land loss (over multi decadal to century scale), it would be drowning/inundation, then edge erosion from cold fronts, then loss events from hurricanes but within a decade, one factor may jump another depending on storm hits, sea level rise rates, etc.
If one had to add up the relative contributors of long term land loss (over multi decadal to century scale), it would be drowning/inundation, then edge erosion from cold fronts, then loss events from hurricanes but within a decade, one factor may jump another depending on storm hits, sea level rise rates, etc.
Posted on 2/22/22 at 12:39 pm to sawtooth
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It would be nice to at least slow down the loss although I don’t think they can ever reverse it.
You are correct, it will not be reversed. The original goal of the State master plan (COAST 2050) was to acheive no net land loss by the year 2050. That was the GOAL and is unrealistic.
I wish them luck but it is a tough nut to crack
Posted on 2/22/22 at 12:50 pm to WavinWilly
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I was in a class at LSU in 2007 where the professor was talking about this exact thing and trying to get it implemented. Just go ahead and do it already.
It was being talked about in classes I took in the mid 1980s
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