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You would think if our water was semi-scarce, experts and studies would be done to confirm or deny it.


Well in last years legislative session with the reorg of DNR to DCE and the expansion of the charges of DOTD for inland water management that exact thing it put into motion and is gaining more and more steam.

I agree with you it is premature to say anything one way or another, but for either side. The closed loop cooling advances are great and will get us a lot farther down the road but coming from someone in the water management industry, we know startling little about how much we can use sustainably, where, when, etc.
Cant speak to other states, but for Louisiana specifically, we have no recent studies or estimates on what our state water budget is, and thus, have no real way of knowing if data center proposals are going to overdraw a particular aquifer or not. We also dont have any state water law beyond the same governing laws for say, O&G extraction, which are that if you can tap into it, you can take it. We have no state laws governing the sale of water as a commodity to others (e.g., Texas trying to tap into the Sabine/Toledo Bend).

I am a pretty conservative person, but the engineer in me has some pause on whether letting things go gangbusters is the best idea until we know what our water budget even is. People think "oh it is Louisiana, we have so much water everywhere" but that really isnt the case and the public often confuses episodic nuisance surface water events (floods) with the continuous draws of ground or streamflow for industry and agriculture. Farmers and industry across the Sparta, Chicot, and Southern Hills aquifers are drilling wells deeper and deeper; BR has had a myriad of issues with the Capitol Area Groundwater Commission fights just to monitor withdrawals.

If we have the water, great, but it would be safe to do some reconnaissance first before we promise everything to every data center.
Do any local media verify anything before reporting? After each parade they parrot whatever NOPD says and we are 0-2 of honest NOPD reporting in a week. We all know that profession has fallen but damn, they have absolutely no self respect for their workmanship.
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Deep Gras Friday


This is the dumbest fricking term.
Typical transplant and poser speak.
You should be ashamed.
NOPD states no officers injured or police property damaged

The conjecture that this may be overblown or making an example by city/cops could well be true given as time goes on things are being walked back and no footage exists of whatever the issue was. Krewe is probably playing it safe by keeping statements to a minimum to stay on good side of city parade permits and cops. Was someone on float probably being a shithead? Sure. Was a whole float targeting cops and minority children and all the mentions of felony battery and damage to official property made by police unions, AGs, Mayor, Lt Gov, and a US Senator accurate? Bit of an overreaction and social media snowball effect I’d say.
Understood. I was trying to simplify it for the audience here…we obviously can’t get the menders back, at least not in most of LA, but even if we had room for the river we will have the sediment transport problem.

Even with that said, we know from textbooks what the Mississippi should be doing, but we know so little about the bulk, long term sand transport trends and bed aggregation/degradation…even the big synoptic studies like Little and Biedenharn in MR Hydro have massive error bars even with the trend of reduced sand transport.
At this point, more mechanical intervention to dredge the sand and silt stuck behind Missouri River dams annually and send it downstream could help mend some of the bed transport and geomorphology issues but it’s like adding a pacemaker versus a healthy heart. The river at this point is like the Borg where it’s more machine than natural and to fix the machine, more machinery is needed short of ripping all the machinery out.

The video doesn’t mention the huge drought part…oversight by the AI that made it, but the general premise of humans having jacked up the entire behavior and ecosystem of the river and the inter dependencies of sediment dynamics, flow, geology, and groundwater response as well as the economic responses and agricultural responses arent wrong.

I remember looking at the St Francisville gage hourly readings during that drought and you could see a faint tidal signal…from the Gulf. There are roughly 260 river miles between that gage and Head of Passes and then another 18 to the mouth of Southwest Pass at the Gulf and the river was only 3-4 ft higher here than at Southwest Pass. Incredibly flat, nearly slack water at that point.
100% people who always need attention. Last year I noticed Brazilian dancing troupes, some Indian (red dot) dancing troupes, the white people steel drum band from Indiana... Soon there won’t be room for the Hs kids in parades due to all the adults who didnt get enough attention as a kid.
Wife drives a 2017 black Tahoe, hood looks like she drove it through a sandstorm or something. I’ve tried buffing and waxing it to no avail. Clear coat looks like it has a million little foggy scratches. Looking for ideas on where to take it and what might be the issue if it’s just clear coat fouling or what.
I am rooting for them since LSU not in but I truly felt bad for them. I looked on the secondary websites since I had nothing to do yesterday evening: as of yesterday morning there were tons of tickets for sale for less than $25. Seats empty in their downsized tiny stadium in TV. Their own people don’t care. I’d venture to say the amount of LSU fans wishing Tulane good will outsized their own dedicated fan base.


I think much of this stems from both sides’ misunderstanding of “mean high tide line.”

As in the image, a line of seaweed washed up can be from an abnormal storm tide or a normal high tide, so a beach goer can’t just point to shite washed up. Ignorant property owners and managers seem to think it’s water’s edge all day every day, which is also false. It all depends on beach slope, as generally the northern Gulf is microtidal and has a very small range of 1 ft give or take. Wind can also influence water setup. In the end, you do have 10, 20, sometimes 30+ feet of intertidal beach that private property owners have no legal recourse to stop people from setting up. In Louisiana, since our sand grain size is smaller, our beaches are even flatter, and that zone is even wider (but we don’t have the same issues property-wise). All sides need to be educated on this.
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2025 National Blue Ribbon School of Excellence. Twice in the last five years.


Aloysius has had 2 blue ribbons for awhile, plus that entire program is ending so all the blue ribbons will soon be pointless.
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is a lifelong Unitarian Universalist raised atheist by humanist Unitarian Universalist parents





Just another subsonic drone. This one was too high-end and lost the first round of collaborative wingman to other contractors’ cheaper, less stealthy, less survivable options. They just repackaged it to have a press release. Hasn’t even flown yet per their claim.

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At least the MRGO has been shuttered


St Bernard is actively lobbying and funding studies to open it back up so da trout fishamen don’t have to go aroun
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Then the Army Corps of Engineers pulled the permit


you keep saying this

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That JBE lied



It shows how little you know. I am sure you are some staffer or oyster lobby-associated, and that's fine, you are parroting your master's line, but for the rest of the board, let's be clear on a few things:

1) The USACE requires a local sponsor (in this case the state) for all projects. The USACE only pulls a permit in situations like this (after they've issued it) when the local sponsor first signals they no longer support the project. In this case, the Dove/Landry/Nungesser cabal stated FIRST, with no scientific basis, they didn't want the project, THEN the Corps pulled it. You continue to state it the other way around, like the Corps saw the light or uncovered a hidden fact or something. If the state supported it and re-submitted it tomorrow, the Corps would still approve of it. You are being disingenuous in how you state this.

2) JBE did not lie. I hated the guy, but he didn't lie, and this is another subversion of facts that unfortunately political types aren't intellectually equipped to understand. Every model is a purpose specific tool. Think of them like telescopes...the same telescope can be dialed in and focused to view something close, like the moon, or something farther, like a planet, another star system, another galaxy etc...the same tool/telescope. In this case, models were dialed in to look at entirely different scenarios: one the broad basin-side effects, the other the conveyance channel and nearfield intake/outfall. You are favoring misused results from the latter when the former is the correct model to consider for broad land preservation or building performance. Once again, disingenuous at best, outright strategic lies at worst. You are picking up the telescope dialed in to view the Moon and saying "aha, see, a lie, it doesnt view Neptune very well at all!" but you are ignoring the fact it was not set up with that intent.

You clearly are interested in the subject. I would highly encourage you to go talk to the scientists and engineers from across the nation and world, who all spent decades thinking on the problem, who all came to the same solution. But somehow you and the cabal you favor know better...? It is why Louisiana is the way it is and always will be.
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even if we blew up the levees and let the river loose again, the sediment load wasn’t enough to restore the lost land


This is not entirely accurate. Is the sediment load less than the days when the Mississippi River basin was being settled, the great southern old growth forests were cut down, and massive amounts of surface erosion were occurring and driving an inflated high sediment load?...yes.

However, it is a red herring.

If dredging is the only viable solution as some claim, where would we get that material, since apparently the river has nothing in it? The same people who want to dredge the river to rebuild land (such a strategy inherently assumes enough replenish-able sediment is in the river) want to claim said river has no sediment in it.

It has been proven in peer-reviewed scientific literature that the major new breaks at Mardi Gras Pass, Neptune Pass, or the artificial cut at West Bay, or the Wax and Atchafalaya did not build just from the new channels cut when they were formed, but more than half the material deposited is entirely new transported material. That number will only continue to grow.

The river has plenty of sediment to rebuild plenty of land. An appropriate analogy for writing off river sediment is like foregoing a winning Powerball ticket of 500M dollars because last month the jackpot was 1B dollars.