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re: Louisiana education rankings climb

Posted on 11/20/24 at 2:46 pm to
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
34100 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 2:46 pm to
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Performance scores have increased for the third consecutive year. Louisiana students have achieved the highest score under the 150-point system.



In 2025, the state was supposed to adjust the scale upward. That got scrapped once they realized under the new scale, most districts would be rated an F!

Is there growth happening? Sure
Are schools still failing? Yes

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Caddo Parish went from 2023's grade letter C with a score of 73.6 to 2024's grade letter B with a 75.7 score.


Congrats! You moved up to a B district with a score of 73.8......on a 150 point scale. When I was in school 74/150 was an F.
Posted by Old Man and a Porch
Member since Dec 2023
735 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 3:04 pm to
If you have worked in public education, you realize that these numbers can be manipulated. Improvements may have been made but I would think this improvement comes largely from “playing the game” and “jumping through hoops”.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 3:17 pm to
Is this the consequences of the changing demographics in other states due to illegal immigration?
Posted by southpawcock
Member since Oct 2015
17155 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 3:19 pm to
40th in education, if you can make it to school without getting murdered.
Posted by Vincenzo Pantangelli
Member since Nov 2024
1410 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 3:28 pm to
Still better than the sippy
Posted by Macintosh
Lane State University
Member since Sep 2011
56001 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 3:29 pm to
The Jeff Landry effect. Putting the 10 commandments in school works after all
Posted by redneck hippie
Oklahoma
Member since Dec 2008
6304 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 3:31 pm to
Congratulations Louisiana.
All my life Oklahoma could at least count on Louisiana or Mississippi to be ranked lower in any given quality of life metric. Louisiana is moving in the right direction. Oklahoma is currently ranked 49th in education.
Posted by whoa
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
5861 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 3:38 pm to
The new statewide grading changes for next school year. The article in the newspaper says many of the A rated schools will not longer be A rated once they’re in effect.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
37837 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 3:40 pm to
quote:

Louisiana goes from 46th to 40th ranked in education


Amazing what gaming the system can do.

“Look how many more As and Bs we have now!!! Look at that improvement!! Way less Fs!!!”


Just don’t look at how we changed the grading scale to artificially boost grades…. It’s alllll organic growth, I promise!
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
42511 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 3:45 pm to
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In 2025, the state was supposed to adjust the scale upward. That got scrapped once they realized under the new scale, most districts would be rated an F! Is there growth happening? Sure Are schools still failing? Yes


Yes, it’s a dumb scale (literally).

But so is the criteria used for calculating those scores.

For example, a student is only credited with taking and passing one AP class, dual enrollment class, or CLEP test for their entire high school career (as it relates to the school / district score).

In short, it lowers the scores of what would be your higher achieving districts.

Perhaps this is by design, so that the gap between the best and the worst districts doesn’t seem so large.

Additionally, test were optional in some instances for the students, yet still counted fully against the district.

An example was that if a child passed the 10th grade Science test, they didn’t have to pass the 11th grade Social Studies test.

They still had to take the 11th grade test, but they could literally put their name on it and catch some Z’s if they had previously passed the 10th grade test.

However, if a student failed Social Studies test (11th grade), the district / school would get dinged on their school / district scores.

It was a really shitty system.

Even comparing ACT / SAT scores nationally makes no sense, as the requirements put forth by each state can change the outcome.

In Louisiana, EVERY student must take the ACT. In Texas, only a portion do (they are required to take the SAT iirc). In short, SPED students count against Louisiana.



TLDR

1. Louisiana has improved, but had a LONG way to go.

2. The system used for scoring is moronic.

3. The focus on early childhood literacy rates is paying off.
Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
11695 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 3:50 pm to
quote:

Brumley was on the short list to be Trump's Secretary of Education

He got beat out by


I guess he didn’t have enough TV experience.
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
28101 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 3:54 pm to
But all that Casino money was going to fix the education system and roads.
Posted by spslayto
Member since Feb 2004
21715 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 4:09 pm to
quote:

Amazing what gaming the system can do.

“Look how many more As and Bs we have now!!! Look at that improvement!! Way less Fs!!!”


Just don’t look at how we changed the grading scale to artificially boost grades…. It’s alllll organic growth, I promise!


But wouldn't this be based on standardized testing across different states and not a grading scale?
Posted by Ignatius Reilly
NOLA
Member since Nov 2015
153 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 5:17 pm to
quote:

Not sure where they cherry picked that information, but the link from the Dept. of Education article shows Louisiana is ranked #47 in education.


Louisiana PK-12 is ranked 40th. Higher Ed is 49th for an overall ranking of 47.

PK-12 and Higher Ed Rankings
This post was edited on 11/20/24 at 5:21 pm
Posted by Falco
Member since Dec 2018
2219 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 5:24 pm to
If a private school receives state money they still have to take the same test as public schools, therefore they would be included in the ranking.
Posted by brass2mouth
NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
20454 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 5:25 pm to
quote:

I would imagine it didn't hurt. But some cities have school of choice options (by non-typical means) and charter academies. There are many non-public choices that parents are making today. I think all of this helps.


Easily. More choices mean competition, and they all want that fed money so their desire to not suck increases.
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
59603 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 5:35 pm to
quote:

Makes me think the teachers in the state are cooking the books


The teachers don’t have the ability to cook the books without a huge risk of losing their jobs. The state, however, can easily manipulate data.
Posted by Saunson69
Stephen the Pirate
Member since May 2023
8230 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 5:46 pm to
A certain group of Louisianians must have moved states. The only way I see this being true is if a certain culcha packed up and moved states and now less %
Posted by tigerfan 64
in the LP
Member since Sep 2016
6188 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 7:29 pm to
quote:

You learn a lot more reading the 10 commandments than you learn trying to read a pride flag

Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
15798 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 8:29 pm to
It's because the 10 commandments are in the classrooms
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