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re: Looks like Landry is going to tank the mid-Barataria diversion.
Posted on 3/1/24 at 6:56 am to BottomlandBrew
Posted on 3/1/24 at 6:56 am to BottomlandBrew
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worked with the Dutch for nearly a decade after Katrina. They taught us everything they know, and then we...just threw it all away.
Well that isn't true at all. Big arse dredges are being built in the US and particulalry Louisiana basically as fast as possible. Basically every dredge in the country is on contract for the foreseeable future, including the ones not yet built.
It still doesn't fix the issue. You can't capture what's going over the shelf, and you can't replace it. You can use machines to help, but levees and dams will have to be blown up to actually fix the problem. It's economically and politically impossible to do that.
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Posted on 3/1/24 at 7:00 am to Trout Bandit
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a complete POS
It's been a while since Mike Foster.
Landry is more like a Republican Edwin Edwards...
Posted on 3/1/24 at 7:50 am to BottomlandBrew
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Here's the thing, we didn't have to send people over. They willingly came over here. I worked with the Dutch for nearly a decade after Katrina. They taught us everything they know, and then we...just threw it all away.
That’s awesome, I’ve never heard about that. It seems we will never shed the “good ole baw in power” skin.
I know everywhere has their own problems, and we all know the government on a national level is fricked beyond belief, but we can’t get a single substantial project though that people pretty much unanimously agree is a good idea.
Posted on 3/1/24 at 8:19 am to Novastar
East Timbalier Island was wrapped in rocks. You can’t find any evidence today that there was ever an island there.
The commercials and oyster fishermen, don’t give a fig about land loss. They can’t see past a few weeks in front of them. Reminds me of the statement one of the commercial fishermen in New England made in response to tightening regulations on ground fish. He said he hoped he caught the last cod left in the ocean.
The commercials and oyster fishermen, don’t give a fig about land loss. They can’t see past a few weeks in front of them. Reminds me of the statement one of the commercial fishermen in New England made in response to tightening regulations on ground fish. He said he hoped he caught the last cod left in the ocean.
Posted on 3/1/24 at 8:20 am to patchesohoulihan_007
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That’s awesome, I’ve never heard about that.
Look up the Dutch Dialogues. One of the very few things Mary Landrieu did that was worth a shite. Maybe the only thing. When working with the Dutch, you learn that they think in terms of decades and centuries. They don't care about short-term political election cycles. They understand that what they are doing is for their grandchildren.
Posted on 3/1/24 at 8:38 am to canyon
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flooding of the river itself. But it ain’t happening.
Oh it's gonna happen someday and it is going to be a huge catastrophe. I hope it doesn't happen in our lifetimes.
Posted on 3/1/24 at 8:41 am to Slippy
The Oyster Mafia is real
Posted on 3/1/24 at 9:10 am to Motorboat
The issue is everything besides dredging involves displacement of people and economy.
I'm a big fan of dredging as a path forward. I'd much rather my tax dollars go to that than the scores of other dumb shite it goes to. If government at any level were anywhere near competent, we'd have a plan to get it done on a large scale and keep it up.
I'm a big fan of dredging as a path forward. I'd much rather my tax dollars go to that than the scores of other dumb shite it goes to. If government at any level were anywhere near competent, we'd have a plan to get it done on a large scale and keep it up.
Posted on 3/1/24 at 9:15 am to canyon
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Again there is no practice to reclaim land better than flooding of the river itself. But it ain’t happening.
It'll happen one day. They'll blow the levees to save New Orleans just like they did before
Posted on 3/1/24 at 9:22 am to Motorboat
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Oh it's gonna happen someday and it is going to be a huge catastrophe. I hope it doesn't happen in our lifetimes.
According to some real scientists its inevitable. In short the river is silting itself in and that process is going to accelerate as it goes. Eventually a heavier than usual spring flood is going to top a levee or wash out a control structure and that will be a wrap.
it may be 10 years or 100 but its going to happen.
Posted on 3/1/24 at 9:23 am to Midtiger farm
The marsh reclamation that happening in Lena's lagoon is taking about 3 years, it will create almost 4 square miles of new marsh. This is much faster than the diversion project.
Posted on 3/1/24 at 9:24 am to Purple Spoon
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may be 10 years or 100 but its going to happen
Correct.
Posted on 3/1/24 at 10:07 am to Purple Spoon
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According to some real scientists its inevitable. In short the river is silting itself in and that process is going to accelerate as it goes. Eventually a heavier than usual spring flood is going to top a levee or wash out a control structure and that will be a wrap.
it may be 10 years or 100 but its going to happen.
This has happened already.
Mardi Gras Pass and a few other areas on the East side are taking some of the flow and have started to build a natural delta on the east side and silt in some bays.
The river goes out so far out at Southwest Pass, there is not enough current to keep the depth for ocean going vessels. That is why it is constantly being dreged.
Posted on 3/1/24 at 10:29 am to tgrbaitn08
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This project has ZERO to do with shipping
I’m fully aware. The comment you replied to was addressing the possibility of removing levees on the lower river, not the Mid-Barataria Project.
Posted on 3/1/24 at 12:58 pm to Tarps99
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The river goes out so far out at Southwest Pass, there is not enough current to keep the depth for ocean going vessels. That is why it is constantly being dreged.
Wait, what?
Posted on 3/5/24 at 12:50 pm to Slippy
Bump
Diversion wont affect base flood elevations
Oops, sounds like the main argument against the diversion is out and now we are back to arguing about saving the invasive dolphins with people from Mississippi
Diversion wont affect base flood elevations
Oops, sounds like the main argument against the diversion is out and now we are back to arguing about saving the invasive dolphins with people from Mississippi
Posted on 3/5/24 at 3:15 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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may be 10 years or 100 but its going to happen
Old River or Widow Graham Bend will blow out one spring inevitably.
I was on the ORCS in 1973. The damn thing was shaking. This was the day before the South wing wall blew through and they discovered the immense unknown till then damage. Pre auxiliary structure that was consructed afterward. The Mississippi will take over the Atchafalaya one day.
This post was edited on 3/5/24 at 3:23 pm
Posted on 3/5/24 at 3:27 pm to jrobic4
Landry is indeed like Edwin Edwards in some ways, but he is not anywhere near as smart. He is extremely political, prone to corruption and can be ruthless.
However, Landry is the least intelligent La. Gov. since Jimmy Davis.
However, Landry is the least intelligent La. Gov. since Jimmy Davis.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 3:48 pm to GhostofLesticleMiles
i was a student so i did not get in depth access to it like the professors and grad students but anyone with a prefrontal cortex could look at that model when the tests were ran and could see that we are doomed.
i also took mental note everytime we ran a test
i also took mental note everytime we ran a test
Posted on 3/5/24 at 3:53 pm to Marshhen
that is a rather broad question and i would have to look at the data to be honest. we mainly ran tests on how the sediment got to the said region and how much got there and how long it took, based on a protypical model.
Good question, but i do not know the answer
Good question, but i do not know the answer
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