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re: Let's talk about what are some true signs of alcoholism (longish)

Posted on 12/4/18 at 11:26 pm to
Posted by TU Rob
Birmingham
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Posted on 12/4/18 at 11:26 pm to
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Yes, I'm trying to enjoy my beer and my wife insists on being a pain in my arse.


Exactly. Thankfully those conversations don’t happen often.
Posted by Giantkiller
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Posted on 12/5/18 at 12:09 am to
These threads always seem to get bumped at night.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 12/5/18 at 12:25 am to
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If you have to have a drink to stop your "shakes", you are going to need professional help to stop drinking. I have been to rehab for opioids about 15 years ago and the alcoholics that came in were in worse shape than just about everyone else. One guy came in in a fricking wheelchair and after a week or so when he got through his physical detox he was back walking around and looked a million times better. Alcoholism will absolutely wreck your body.


Yep. It first starts as “the hair that bit ya”, but then you start doing it on a fricking Tuesday morning after tying one on the night before. You’re doomed when you start that shite. That’s the point where you have to stop drinking.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 12/5/18 at 12:32 am to
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If you are at work, and you are thinking about getting off and getting that drink --- your fricked.


If you have a shitty job and can limit yourself to 3 or 4 drinks, I don’t think so. It’s when it comes between you and that job that it’s the issue. A lot of people (I’m going with 25%) love getting off work and winding down with a drink or two and are perfectly functional. It’s when you can’t limit yourself is when it’s problematic.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 12/5/18 at 12:41 am to
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So I'm going to play devil's advocate because I'm curious, then why do it? You say you aren't getting buzzed or trashed, then why even drink? Is it habit?



That’s roughly me. 5 beers after work is standard. Get somewhat of a buzz and hit the hay. Helps me unwind, and I haven’t woken up hungover for work since Trump was elected. It doesn’t get in my way, but it’s nice to unwind and relieve stress. I don’t NEED it though, which is more than I can say about many alcoholics I know.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 12/5/18 at 12:45 am to
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5 beers after work is standard


Posted by TheIndulger
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 12/5/18 at 12:50 am to
That’s a pretty substantial amount to drink after work every day. It may be harder to stop than you’ve convinced yourself.
Posted by WaltTeevens
Santa Barbara, CA
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 12/5/18 at 1:27 am to
I have a tenuous relationship with alcohol. There are times when I want to live life without it..and I do. I love being sober.

There are also times when alcohol becomes the focal point. That is bad. I will meet friends at a bar, but I'm not there for them. I'm there to get fricked up, and they just happen to be there. That's when I know I'm in the sunken place.

I still keep my head above water, but it's a dangerous game for me...the addiction runs in my family, but I don't like to blame it on genetics. That seems like a cop out.

All in all, I've had great times fricked up, and I've great times being dry. The Great times I've had not drunk are more special to me.

Someday I will give it up altogether. I hope it's tomorrow. The hangovers get much worse as you age. I'm 34, and I feel weakened by hangovers infinitely more than when I was 24.

Your mileage may vary. Stay thirsty, my southern football friends
Posted by Jizzy08
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 12/5/18 at 1:32 am to
If you’re drinking 5 beers a night, that’s a problem regardless of what you think. Shouldn’t need 5 to unwind or de stress. Also, it’s a myth that alcohol helps you sleep.
Posted by PetroBabich
Donetsk Oblast
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 12/5/18 at 1:47 am to
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I don’t NEED it though, which is more than I can say about many alcoholics I know.



Try drinking only one or two and see how difficult it is for you.
Posted by Red Stick Tigress
Tiger Stadium
Member since Nov 2005
20827 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 2:10 am to
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some true signs of alcoholism


I had a roommate who drank quite a few drinks every day after work and all weekend.

I would say he was an alcoholic but unless he had a genetic disposition to alcohol, there didn't seem to be any obvious outside triggers to make him drink as much as he did.

Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 12/5/18 at 5:53 am to
When you're friends become boring because they don't drink much.....
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
29829 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 6:52 am to
When I was overseas, everyone drank. And everyone drank to excess. Every single day.

I'd run through a 12 pack of local beer before 7 pm before switching to rotgut bourbon and be back at work for 5 am fresh as a daisy.

I realized it was a problem when I came back to Louisiana and even old friends who I considered to have a drinking problem were questioning it.

I was 1000% an alcoholic, but in the environment I was in, I wasn't even an outlier.

I backed off the liquor and tapered down to nothing. Dried out for 6 months.

I still drink. Hell, you could say I drink to excess, but I haven't been drunk in 3 or 4 years, and I intend to keep it that way.

Damned near exclusively a bourbon and wine drinker these days. Usually drink 1-2 bottles of wine a week. And typically 1 bottle of bourbon. If there are any restaurant nights tossed in there, I'll have a random beer before dinner.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 12/5/18 at 7:19 am to
I also think the status of "not being an alcoholic" doesn't mean you don't have a drinking problem in a more informal sense.

I don't have the recurring and life altering problems alcoholics might have, but I can tie a few "problems" a year to drinking too much. We discussed this in another thread, but things that didn't bother anyone in college aren't so easy to shrug off as a true adult.

For example, if a couple of times a year you get so drunk that you're worried about what you said/did for a week, it's a problem.
Posted by rowbear1922
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2008
15791 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 7:25 am to
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I don't have the recurring and life altering problems alcoholics might have, but I can tie a few "problems" a year to drinking too much. We discussed this in another thread, but things that didn't bother anyone in college aren't so easy to shrug off as a true adult.

For example, if a couple of times a year you get so drunk that you're worried about what you said/did for a week, it's a problem.



Yea I'm not alcoholic but I definitely have a drinking problem on the weekends. On the first of the year, I am seeing if I can go 100 days without drinking.
Posted by terriblegreen
Souf Badden Rewage
Member since Aug 2011
12300 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 7:42 am to
I have a close family member who is an alcoholic. He’s verbally and emotionally abusive to those closest to him. He tries to hide his drinking. He has told family members they are dead to him because they tried to get him help. We all have gotten to the point we avoid him at all costs. He is dangerously close to losing his job and everything he has. It’s pretty damn sad.
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