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re: Let's talk about what are some true signs of alcoholism (longish)
Posted on 11/23/18 at 11:18 am to pwejr88
Posted on 11/23/18 at 11:18 am to pwejr88
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Alcoholics are masters at rationalizing/defining their and other's drinking in whatever manner it requires to make it not a problem
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Welcome to addicts 101.
What you said is common sense
Common sense today has never been so uncommon.
Posted on 11/23/18 at 11:22 am to deeprig9
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There is a weird reverse tolerance for some alkies, my friend who used to have a very high tolerance eventually got to a point where one shot and he was drunk.
This is true of long-term alcoholics, who eventually lose enough liver/kidney function or something - to the point that a beer or two will put them on their arse. Seen it firsthand
Posted on 11/23/18 at 11:25 am to PortHudsonPlaya
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When you cant go on a 3+ hour road trip without drinking a six pack.
Nothing like a road trip with a good Adderall and vodka buzz.
Posted on 11/23/18 at 11:25 am to deeprig9
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There is a weird reverse tolerance for some alkies, my friend who used to have a very high tolerance eventually got to a point where one shot and he was drunk.
It's usually end stage. Your liver can no longer process it like it once could. I've been there, and it sucks.
This also happens with some drugs which causes overdoses at levels someone might have once been comfortable with.
Posted on 11/23/18 at 12:10 pm to el Gaucho
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You can’t get hooked on beer
Not sure if serious.
Posted on 11/23/18 at 12:26 pm to Tchefuncte Tiger
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Not sure if serious.
Not sure you're familiar with Gaucho.
Posted on 11/23/18 at 1:50 pm to mikelbr
I have never woken up in the morning after not drinking and thought, "wow, I wish I would have drank last night. Dammit, should gotten hammered."
Posted on 11/23/18 at 1:57 pm to vistajay
Very sorry to hear that. Seems like maybe he didnt die from alcoholism but died from severe depression that was coped with by alcohol. He obviously was an alcoholic, but that was very likely due to other circumstances in life
This post was edited on 11/23/18 at 2:00 pm
Posted on 11/23/18 at 4:47 pm to mikelbr
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Nothing like a road trip with a good Adderall and vodka buzz.
Sounds like some people that I know
Posted on 11/23/18 at 6:56 pm to td01241
Yeah for me it was not being able to stop even when I knew I was losing everything. That was the first time. Got worse to the point I’d leave work early to drink or drink at work. Completely took over my life. Now I don’t drink at all and it doesn’t bother me at all everyone is drinking around me. I’m not a “drinking is bad” guy it’s just not for me.
Posted on 11/23/18 at 7:03 pm to SirSaintly
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've always wondered about those checklists. I drink about 6 or 7 alcoholic beverages on a Friday night... Usually gin & tonic or vodka soda. About the same on Saturday night. Some Sundays I'll have 5 or 6 beers or nothing at all. Depends on how I feel from the night before. Can go all work week without drinking anything or may have a beer or two throughout the week, although I usually don't drink during the week.
Its called binge drinking. Like the OP says. Doesnt matter the actual number or amount of days you drink. Weekend drinkers can be alcoholics too.
This is def what I was battling with and my excuse was always, well i dont drink during the week so im not an alcoholic. So wrong.
Posted on 11/24/18 at 1:02 am to IAmNERD
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and the alcoholics that came in were in worse shape than just about everyone else.
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Alcoholism will absolutely wreck your body.
Both are absolutely true. I suffered from alcoholism withdrawals and I don’t think words can describe ho horrible they are. I heard things that weren’t there, saw things that weren’t there, couldn’t stop shaking and clenching and sweating. Absolute Hell. Unlike most drugs, alcohol affects every single cell in your body so when you have the withdrawals, your whole body is withdrawing. It’s bad. When I was in treatment you could tell the ‘true’ alcoholics instantly. It’s a tough disease to beat once it gets to that stage you absolutely cannot do it on your own. If you know someone at that stage, they’re close to death, one way or another. They probably wish they would just die too. It’s a miserable existence.
That said, crystal meth will really wreck your shite too. It was never my thing, but methheads sometimes can’t really ever recover from the damage they’ve done to their bodies.
The rough thing about alcoholism too is that is so prevalent. When you quit drugs, you can stop hanging around those people and delete your dealers from your phone. I know it’s not quite that simple, but for an alcoholic our drug dealers is at every gas station and it’s cheap. It’s a weddings, Christmas parties, Sunday BBQ’s, you name it. Everywhere you look you see people drinking with seemingly no repercussions and you convince yourself that this time you can do it too. This time will be different.
But it’s not. Ever. And you have to finally accept that it will never ever be different and it’s just not something you can do.
This post was edited on 11/24/18 at 1:12 am
Posted on 11/24/18 at 1:08 am to TU Rob
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Then she asked me if I had a problem.
Yes, I'm trying to enjoy my beer and my wife insists on being a pain in my arse.
Posted on 11/29/18 at 10:03 am to DeltaTiger14
How's it going Delta?
Posted on 11/29/18 at 10:06 am to WG_Dawg
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Or a dude who drinks twice a month, only on Saturday, but drinks 24 beers each time. I don't think either of those people are necessarily alcoholics
I don't disagree but you have to admit it's a funny excerpt.
Posted on 11/29/18 at 11:05 am to wasteland
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A dude that only drank about 3 glasses of wine and few nights a week. He would go into deep depression and want suicide.
This is precisely why I never drink alone. I had a few outings with friends where I went from happy-go-lucky life of the party to beyond depressed sad drunk mode fast when left alone for a while and it has definitely made me think twice about drinking ever since. I basically never have more than 3 drinks in an outing these days, especially since I always have to drive since I live in the middle of nowhere.
The sad thing is I really want a drink, so I keep alcohol at home, but I won’t drink alone so I never touch it. But since I have alcohol at home, I tell myself there’s no reason to buy it when I’m out since bar booze can be really expensive. Which is good since it keeps me from drinking, but I’m unhappy, but that likely has nothing to do with the alcohol, but the alcohol sometimes makes it better, but it also sometimes makes it a whole lot worse.
If I had a relationship status with alcohol, facebook would read “it’s complicated”
Posted on 11/29/18 at 11:41 am to TheIndulger
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I would say this classifies as some form of alcohol dependency if you’re having 25-30 beers a week. It doesnt make your list but I would think that is a form of alcoholism.
I don't know, man.
I get off work at 5. I handle shite around the house until 7. I'll crack open a beer at 7ish. I drink a beer every 45mins to an hour up until I head to bed at 11 or 12...so that's 4-5 beers per night. 4-5 beers over the course of 4-5 hours certainly doesn't lead me to being trashed or heavily buzzed. If I do that 6-7 days a week, that's 24-35 drinks a week without ever getting really 'drunk'.
Poor health choice? Absolutely. Alcoholism? I REALLY don't think it's even close. I've been around alcoholics and their goal is to get completely obliterated, not just catch a slight buzz by sipping on a few cold ones.
Posted on 11/29/18 at 11:45 am to mmmmmbeeer
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I drink a beer every 45mins to an hour up until I head to bed at 11 or 12...so that's 4-5 beers per night. 4-5 beers over the course of 4-5 hours certainly doesn't lead me to being trashed or heavily buzzed. If I do that 6-7 days a week, that's 24-35 drinks a week without ever getting really 'drunk'. Poor health choice? Absolutely. Alcoholism? I REALLY don't think it's even close.
So I'm going to play devil's advocate because I'm curious, then why do it? You say you aren't getting buzzed or trashed, then why even drink? Is it habit?
Posted on 11/29/18 at 12:04 pm to WG_Dawg
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true signs of alcoholism
If your life has become unmanageable due to your drinking.
Posted on 12/4/18 at 10:02 pm to SirSaintly
Give it time. Mine was just like that, then it got worse. Wish you the best.
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