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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 3/21/22 at 9:08 am to
Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 3/21/22 at 9:08 am to
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Switch to Xanax or vodka.



No wonder you claim to get intel info from Tinder


Anyways whats the latest from your girls?
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 3/21/22 at 9:14 am to
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Switch to Xanax or vodka.

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Posted by RATeamWannabe
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Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 3/21/22 at 9:18 am to
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Afghanistan is thousands of miles away from the US with a different language and culture.

Ukraine has been apart of Russia in the past and has the same culture and language.

Don’t think that the CIA infiltrating it for a a few decades makes it on the same playing field as a random middle eastern country. Not even close.


Maybe like they tried to rebuild Afghanistan then?
Posted by Centinel
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 3/21/22 at 9:18 am to
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Ukraine has been apart of Russia in the past


By force.

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and has the same culture and language


Language, yes. Culture, not so much. Ukraine thinks of themselves as Europeans, not Russians.

Putin will not be able to just "absorb" Ukraine. They will fight like hell, no matter what he does. Like Afghanistan.

ETA: I say this as having spent time in Ukraine, working with the Ukrainian military.
This post was edited on 3/21/22 at 9:20 am
Posted by Abstract Queso Dip
Member since Mar 2021
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Posted on 3/21/22 at 9:27 am to
Another point to that is what is Russia going to rebuild Ukraine with? Sticks, twine and some rocks?

They have nothing of value anymore and will not be able to hold or police such a large nation that wants all of them dead.

Russia fooked.
Posted by SDVTiger
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 3/21/22 at 9:38 am to
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Sticks, twine and some rocks?



Could be steel since they seem to taking over the areas with the iron ore, wheat and seeds
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
10497 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 9:40 am to
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Putin will not be able to just "absorb" Ukraine. They will fight like hell, no matter what he does. Like Afghanistan.


Afghanistan is thousands of miles away from Moscow. That’s not the same thing. Ukraine borders Russia and isn’t far at all from Moscow.

Putin doesn’t want to deal with the CIA/State Department running a country on his border any longer that has historical ties to Russia and the Soviet Union.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
32862 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 9:43 am to
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@JackDetsch
NEW: Russia has launched more than 1,100 missiles into Ukraine in more than three weeks of war: senior U.S. defense official.

That marks an average of over 40 Russian missile launches into Ukraine each day.

NEW: Russia has deployed more than a dozen warships to the Black Sea in a sign of increased naval activity off Ukraine's coast: senior U.S. defense official

The vessels include minesweepers and patrol ships, the official said.

U.S. can't confirm or deny Russia firing a hypersonic missile into Western Ukraine over the weekend.

But such a launch would be impractical given distance, the official said.

NEW: Russia is increasingly relying on unclassified communications in Ukraine due to issues with established links: senior U.S. defense official.

NEW: U.S. assesses that Russia has not achieved its objectives in capturing major population centers in Ukraine and is using long-range fires against civilians to turn the tide: senior U.S. defense official.

U.S. assesses that Berdansk, Melitopol, and Kherson are captured.

NEW: Russia is shelling Ukraine's cities in a "near-desperate" attempt to turn the war in their favor and gain leverage at the bargaining table: senior U.S. defense official.

NEW: Russian troops are still being held more than 10 miles to the east of Kyiv by Ukrainian troops, making no gains since last week: senior U.S. defense official.'

Russia's military attack on a mall in the capital last night killed four people and leveled the bldg.

JUST IN: Ukraine is showing "no signs" of stopping resistance against Russian invasion: senior U.S. defense official.

Ukrainian troops recently launched a counterattack to try and take back Russian-occupied Kherson, the official said, one of a handful of cities occupied by Russia.

U.S. has seen no indications that Belarus will move troops into Ukraine: senior U.S. defense official.

Senior U.S. defense official: U.S. will continue to deliver weapons to Ukraine that the military "knows how to use."

NEW: Russia is considering moving MORE battalion tactical groups into Ukraine, but U.S. has seen no physical movements toward further deployments: senior U.S. defense official.

Russia has just under 90 percent of combat power remaining in Ukraine but Putin has the "vast majority" of forces still available: senior U.S. defense official.

U.S. officials said before the war that Russia had arrayed more than 190,000 troops on Ukraine's border.

Russia has used roughly 75 percent of battalion tactical group generation capacity in Ukraine: senior U.S. defense official

Russia has also committed more than 60 percent of fixed wing and rotary wing capability into the fight in Ukraine, the official said.

Russia still has "significant majority" of its ballistic missiles available to fight in Ukraine: senior U.S. defense official

Russia has fired more than 1,100 missiles into Ukraine in nearly a month of war, but still has more than 1/2 of air launched cruise missiles avail.

NEW: Russia is beginning to run lower on precision-guided munitions and is turning to 'dumb bombs' to attack Ukraine's cities: senior U.S. defense official.

British officials said this weekend that Russia had moved to a strategy of "attrition" to lay waste to Ukraine's cities.

NEW: Russia has not attained air superiority over Ukraine in nearly a month of war, but air activity has picked up in the last 24 hours: senior U.S. defense official

Ukraine has been "very resourceful" in contesting Russian aircraft with shoulder-fired weapons, official said.

NEW: Russia has launched more than 300 sorties into Ukraine the last 24 hours: senior U.S. defense official.

Russian sorties are not "venturing very far and very long" into Ukrainian airspace, the official said. Russia still has more than 60 percent of fixed wing and rotary wing capability.

U.S. assesses that Russia is experiencing morale issues via anecdotal indications, especially among conscripts: senior U.S. defense official

"They did not expect this level of resistance," official said. "Some of them were not actually told what they would be doing in Ukraine."

Ukraine is being "very aggressive" in defensive operations, using US weapons almost as soon as they are delivered: senior US defense official.

US-provided Javelins had long been held in warehouses in Western Ukraine, but began flowing to the front lines in months before war.

U.S. is talking to allies about providing Ukraine with long-range air defense platforms: senior U.S. defense official.

Slovakia said last week it was willing to provide Russian-made S-300 missile defense systems to Ukraine, but Russia has threatened to attack the deliveries.

NEW: Russia's primary military objective in Ukraine is STILL the city of Kyiv, but bulk of Russian troops have stalled more than 15 mi away: British Defense Intelligence Agency.

Russia is "likely" to prioritize encircling Kyiv, a city of nearly 2 million (1/2 population has fled).

British Defense Intelligence: "Russian forces advancing on the city from the north-east have stalled. Forces advancing from the direction of Hostomel to the north-west have been repulsed by fierce Ukrainian resistance."
This post was edited on 3/21/22 at 10:10 am
Posted by Centinel
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 3/21/22 at 9:43 am to
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That’s not the same thing. Ukraine borders Russia and isn’t far at all from Moscow.


What part of "they will fight like hell" are you not quite comprehending?

You think Ukrainians are just going to roll over and allow themselves to be dominated by Russia again?

Here's a tip: they're not.

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Putin doesn’t want to deal with the CIA/State Department running a country on his border any longer


There it is.

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has historical ties to Russia and the Soviet Union.




Go back to whatever conspiracy theory site you came from. It's rather clear you have zero understanding of the political or historical aspects of what's going on in Ukraine.

Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
24381 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 9:55 am to
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Marine Raiders

Quick hijack question: Why are the Marine Raiders not hyped up like Navy SEALs, Green Berets or Rangers, or even Air Force Combat Controllers?

Are they just not as specialized as some of the others and therefore do t get called on for some of the more complex missions? Or do they do the same cool shite, but just don't publicize them as much as SEALs? Or are they just not trained as much/as well as the other groups?

I've always wondered why we never hear as much about the Raiders as others SF groups.
Posted by MikeyFL
Member since Sep 2010
10355 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 9:56 am to
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They will reincorporate it into Russia and rebuild it.


With what money and/or resources?

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Ukraine has been apart of Russia in the past and has the same culture and language.



The Ukrainians seem to have a different impression about their culture.

Also, linguists have pointed out that Ukrainian has the same level of similarity with Russian as English does with the Dutch language.

In other words, they have some similarities, but they definitely aren't the same.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45810 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 10:12 am to
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Switch to Xanax or vodka.


No wonder you claim to get intel info from Tinder



1. I am an MD. Don't question me biotch

2. I have not spoken to my source in Mariupol since last week. She was supposedly going to try and flee last Friday but I have not heard anything new from her since I got snapchat videos of the drama center bombing.
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Member since Apr 2012
17734 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 10:23 am to
Can we get a few F-35 sorties at night?

We literally could end this war in one night with absolute plausible deniability

The Soviets placed Soviet pilots in direct combat against us in Korea and Vietnam. It's time we do the same
This post was edited on 3/21/22 at 10:44 am
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45810 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 10:24 am to
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Afghanistan is thousands of miles away from Moscow. That’s not the same thing. Ukraine borders Russia and isn’t far at all from Moscow.


Afghanistan bordered the USSR.

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Putin doesn’t want to deal with the CIA/State Department running a country on his border any longer that has historical ties to Russia and the Soviet Union.



The Kievan Rus and the Grand Duchy of Moscow were combined by the Mongols after their invasion and conquest of both. The Kievan Rus resisted the Mongols more than Moscow did so the Mongols murdered more nobles of the Kievan Rus than they did Moscow nobles. Plus the Kieven Rus was hit harder by the plagues of the middle ages. When the Mongols were pushed out, the nobles of Grand Duchy of Moscow filled the power gap. After the collapse of the Russian Empire, Ukraine fought against being part of the USSR and only became part of the USSR as the point of a gun. Ukraine left the USSR as soon as it could. It also left the CIS as soon as it could as well.

Ukraine does not want to be Russian and never have.
This post was edited on 3/21/22 at 5:21 pm
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 10:27 am to
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Quick hijack question: Why are the Marine Raiders not hyped up like Navy SEALs, Green Berets or Rangers, or even Air Force Combat Controllers?


They’re new and still trying to figure themselves out. At first they were going to be more like Green Berets but the army already has a gazzilion of those guys doing that mission so now I think they’re more Direct Action/Deep Reconnaissance type guys. They’ll eventually get there but Marines historically don’t play well with others so they’ve had a tough time fitting themselves into the JSOC/SOCOM joint way of life.

Back in the early 2000’s when MARSOC was first created the USMC had to be dragged kicking and screaming into the SOF world. The organization as whole wanted no part of it.
This post was edited on 3/21/22 at 10:29 am
Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Member since Apr 2015
24870 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 10:35 am to
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Afghanistan is thousands of miles away from Moscow. That’s not the same thing. Ukraine borders Russia and isn’t far at all from Moscow.

Putin doesn’t want to deal with the CIA/State Department running a country on his border any longer that has historical ties to Russia and the Soviet Union.

Explain how any of this explains why the Ukrainians won’t resist? Why do you think they’ll just accept Putin and Russia as their leaders? They are clearly trying hard to repel them right now but for some reason you think they’ll just roll over if they get defeated?
Posted by pilsnerpusher
Member since Sep 2009
1431 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 10:38 am to
Part of that might be that it is relatively new. The name Marine Raider was only recently resurrected in 2014. Prior to that it hadn't been used since WW2.

Marine special operations under MARSOC has only been around since 2006. Before that the marines had dismissed the notion of creating a special operations unit because their espoused opinion was that all marines are elite.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38222 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 10:39 am to
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Can we get a few F-35's sorties at night?

We literally could end this war in one night with absolute plausible deniability

The Soviets placed Soviet pilots in direct combat against us in Korea and Vietnam. It's time we do the same



bro...frick off with this shite. we should not be putting any american lives in danger, period. this is a european problem, not american problem.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45810 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 10:42 am to
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Could be steel since they seem to taking over the areas with the iron ore, wheat and seeds


Russia is also destroying the steel mills, fabrication plants, eyc needed to turn iron ore into usable products.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
24319 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 10:46 am to
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Go back to whatever conspiracy theory site you came from. It's rather clear you have zero understanding of the political or historical aspects of what's going on in Ukraine.

Most in this country most likely won't. It's help to be enlightened or pointed by link in the right direction considering the variety of information out there. And you have worked with the Ukrainians. You probably have an insightful perspective.
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