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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 2/22/24 at 11:07 pm to No Colors
Posted on 2/22/24 at 11:07 pm to No Colors
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The only people who will ever call this a civil war are the Russian troll farm bots reading their talking points
or those with even a cursory level of knowledge of the region before 1991
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Posted on 2/22/24 at 11:11 pm to SirWinston
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I'd quite literally hate Ukraine for their governments part in ruining the Trump Presidency
This gets to the heart of the matter of why a certain segment in the Republican party is against Ukraine. It's not about Ukraine and NATO, or a civil war or corruption, it is fundamentally about how SirWinston and many others feel that Ukraine played a role in Trump getting impeached.
Posted on 2/22/24 at 11:15 pm to SoonerK
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This gets to the heart of the matter of why a certain segment in the Republican party is against Ukraine. It's not about Ukraine and NATO, or a civil war or corruption, it is fundamentally about how SirWinston and many others feel that Ukraine played a role in Trump getting impeached.
Bingo, I've said this since the start of this war.
Posted on 2/22/24 at 11:44 pm to SoonerK
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This gets to the heart of the matter of why a certain segment in the Republican party is against Ukraine. It's not about Ukraine and NATO, or a civil war or corruption, it is fundamentally about how SirWinston and many others feel that Ukraine played a role in Trump getting impeached.
It's not just that it happened, it's that it's STILL happening every day.
Kinzinger, Cheney, Kristol, French, etc. all spike the football on a daily basis, calling us Russian trolls, saying that we and Trump "love dictators", implying that were ignorant, easy influenced yokels.
It's gaslighting in that they are intentionally not acknowledging the 8 years of preceding "Russia collision" bullshite that our own intelligence agencies, MSM, comedians all lorded over Trump nonstop to great effect. And it's still happening and presumably will happen for the next 4.5 years if he wins.
This post was edited on 2/22/24 at 11:58 pm
Posted on 2/23/24 at 4:40 am to SirWinston
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saying that we and Trump "love dictators"
But you do. Even beyond Putin, you are supporting Kim Jong Un and the Iranian mullahs. What you and the rest of the woke Right are supporting is the dramatic improvement of the military capabilities of Iran and North Korea, because that's what is happening right now as a result of your support for Russia.
When Iranian-backed Houthis attack another ship trying to transport goods (and shipping costs cause inflation to rise some more), when Hamas murders more Israelis, when Al-Qaeda attacks Americans again, you'll be able to thank Vance, MTG, Gaetz, Tucker, and the little minions like SirWinston.
Because those are the people who wanted Russian weapons tech to go to Iran, who will then use it to do all of those things.
Posted on 2/23/24 at 5:34 am to No Colors
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It was never a civil war.
Putin tried to call it that to mask his invasion. But it was just a good old fashioned resource grab.
Just like he tried to call the 2022 invasion a Special Military Operation.
Same land grab.
The only people who will ever call this a civil war are the Russian troll farm bots reading their talking points
Let me ask you. Which side did Ukraine fight for during WW2?
Posted on 2/23/24 at 5:44 am to EMAW2000
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Let me ask you. Which side did Ukraine fight for during WW2?
What the duck does that have to do with anything?
Ukraine gained its independence when the USSR dissolved in 1991..same as Russia did.
Putin -- along with the rest of the world -- recognized Ukraine on multiple occasions and signed multiple treaties acknowledging such.
He then got jealous of their success and inevitable drift to the west..so he invaded and tried to absorb the country into Russia.
The Ukrainians don't want to be part of Russia. So they fought back. That's called a war. Which is what we have today.
If leaders would stop launching aggressive wars, there wouldn't be any wars.
We should have hung George W Bush and his entire inner circle (Cheney, Rice, Powell) for invading Iraq and Afghanistan. And Putin should swing on the same gallows. Maybe that would stop this madness.
There's no amount of mental gymnastics on earth that can justify the insanity that Putin launched. He needs to pay for it so it doesn't happen again.
Posted on 2/23/24 at 5:50 am to ApexTiger
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That part of Russia and Georgia are very close to the black sea
You're calling eastern Ukraine "that part of Russia"?
Jesus the contortions you put yourself through to justify the unjustifiable.
What about that part of Mexico that's in Texas? Should they dust off Santa Anna and roll back into the Alamo?
Let's start digging trenches in the Sudatenland while we're at it. Maybe firing up another war in Pakistan and Bangladesh sounds good to you too??
Or, or, or.... how about governments and leaders around the world obey international law and stop launching aggressive wars of conquest?
Wouldn't that be a sight....
Posted on 2/23/24 at 6:01 am to No Colors
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What the duck does that have to do with anything?
During WW2, Did Ukraine fight for-
A: Russia
B: Germany
C: Both are true
Posted on 2/23/24 at 6:06 am to EMAW2000
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During WW2, Did Ukraine fight for-
A: Russia
B: Germany
C: Both are true
D: Ukraine
Ukraine fought for Ukraine. Same as they're doing right now.
And when they get invaded again, my guess is they'll fight again. Same as I would do if my country got invaded.
Posted on 2/23/24 at 6:56 am to No Colors
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Ukraine fought for Ukraine. Same as they're doing right now.
The level of willful ignorance here is astounding.
Posted on 2/23/24 at 7:12 am to No Colors
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D: Ukraine
Ukraine fought for Ukraine. Same as they're doing right now.
And when they get invaded again, my guess is they'll fight again. Same as I would do if my country got invaded.
Is that what history showed us or was it Ukrainians were murdering other Ukrainians? Particularly the Jewish one's?
Posted on 2/23/24 at 7:20 am to EMAW2000
They fought for the Soviet Union. Which wasn't Russia
Posted on 2/23/24 at 7:52 am to WestCoastAg
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hey fought for the Soviet Union. Which wasn't Russia
The entire country of Ukraine fought for the Soviet Union? Or were Ukrainians the ones who started the Holocaust?
LINK
Posted on 2/23/24 at 7:59 am to EMAW2000
The illegal and unprovoked invasion of Ukraine is continuing.
The map below is the latest Defence Intelligence update on the situation in Ukraine – 23 February 2024.
The map below is the latest Defence Intelligence update on the situation in Ukraine – 23 February 2024.
Posted on 2/23/24 at 8:03 am to theunknownknight
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Go to Ukraine and see for yourself.
Which cities?
Be specific.
Kharkiv, Zaporizhzhia, Dnipro, Kherson, Odessa, and Kyiv would be good ones to start with.
Posted on 2/23/24 at 8:04 am to EMAW2000
We can look at history as a reference and/or a guide.
Or you can make up history as you have here, to create a narrative that isn't historically factual and use those lies as justification as to why we're involved with this conflict.
I've got things to do. Have a nice day.
Or you can make up history as you have here, to create a narrative that isn't historically factual and use those lies as justification as to why we're involved with this conflict.
I've got things to do. Have a nice day.
Posted on 2/23/24 at 8:08 am to EMAW2000
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quote:
What the duck does that have to do with anything?
During WW2, Did Ukraine fight for-
A: Russia
B: Germany
C: Both are true
They fought with the Allies and some defected and fought with the Axis. Same with literally every single country in WWII including America
ETA: need to switch the word Allies and Axis for some countries, but the point is still there
ETA2: It's estimated 1M Soviet citizens worked with the Nazis. This LINK breaks out Russian, Ukrainian and Belarusian collaboration
This post was edited on 2/23/24 at 8:49 am
Posted on 2/23/24 at 8:10 am to GOP_Tiger
you are not a republican. Posted on 2/23/24 at 8:12 am to SirWinston
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This gets to the heart of the matter of why a certain segment in the Republican party is against Ukraine. It's not about Ukraine and NATO, or a civil war or corruption, it is fundamentally about how SirWinston and many others feel that Ukraine played a role in Trump getting impeached.
It's not just that it happened, it's that it's STILL happening every day.
Kinzinger, Cheney, Kristol, French, etc. all spike the football on a daily basis, calling us Russian trolls, saying that we and Trump "love dictators", implying that were ignorant, easy influenced yokels.
Dude you literally spent the last 2 years spiking the football everytime something good happened for Russia and posting Slava Rus and spreading Putin's lies like the USA has given Zelensky 100 billion USD in cash. You are a Russian troll. You might not be getting a paycheck from the FSB but you have spent the past 2 years trolling for Russia. If I was you then I would send a bill to Moscow because they owe you at least 2 years of work that you should be compensated for.
This post was edited on 2/23/24 at 8:18 am
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